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US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (Nov '21 - April '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

7.12% Interest

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U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

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About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Note: This popular deal is still available.

U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

Thanks to community member dn90003 for sharing this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Written by BostonGirl
Refer to the forum thread here for more information and details.

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Written by dn90003

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Looks tempting. But these are only rated for inflation as fixed rate is 0%. Once inflation is back down, your rate will go down with it.
In case you're wondering, here's how the rate is computed:
Composite rate =
No, these are govt bonds. They stay in the treasury. I bonds are based on the rate of inflation. They have a fixed rate plus the current rate of inflation. Inflation goes up, you earn more. It was 3.54%. Rates went up on 11/1. To realize the full benefit you need to buy before the rates change on 5/1 and 11/1. No fees or penalties. Hold for a min.of a year. If you cash out in less than 5 years you forfeit 3 months interest. After 5 years, you don't pay anything. You can only buy $10k/yr and then up to an additional $5k if purchased directly from your tax refund.
I bought $10k in denominations of 2,3, 5 so if I want to cash out I can do it in chunks instead of having to cash out $10k.: Better than any CD or bank rate if you want to stay in cash.
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm

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and then 50% of earning for tax
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Quote from crazyslick :
.gov will be conveniently changing the way it calculates inflation at the beginning of the new year. I can see inflation magically dropping a few percentage points in a few months.

Why change the formula you ask? Mid terms.
Is this your speculation? Or did BLS announce they will change CPI-U formula?
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Quote from gboy13 :
That's not a common benefit
Yeah like I said, "IF" and it's more common than you think especially if you work in tech
Last edited by youra6 December 12, 2021 at 12:25 PM.
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Quote from tivoboy :
Don't confuse THIS bond with YOUR bond.. THIS bond which anyone can purchase will earn that rate through End of March, 2022. That's it, and it will reset in April 2022.. just because one buys THIS bond in December 2021, does not mean that the rate isn't going to reset in April 2022 it will for everyone of THIS bond. The pricing for THESE bonds is SET twice a year, regardless of when who buys them. Another way to look at the example is, if one buys THIS bond in Jan 2022, one doesn't keep the rate (the rate now) till the end of July 2022.. the inflation adjusted rate will adjust in April 2022 come hell or high water. Up or down.

And, remember one has to hold them AT LEAST 12 months, so if the inflation number goes to 0%, you can't just cash them out in six months. Also, if you sell them between I think 12 months and 60 months, whatever the period you don't accrue the last 90 days of interest. So, there is essentially a 60 month holding period in order to get any full months/years of interest accrual. So, just be informed.
Regardless of when you buy an I-bond, the inflation rate is fixed for 6 months.

From TD:

We set the inflation rate every six months (on the first business day of May and on the first business day of November), based on changes in the non-seasonally adjusted Consumer Price Index for all Urban Consumers (CPI-U) for all items, including food and energy.

However, the change is applied to your bond every six months from the bond's issue date. (The dates for these changes might not be May 1 and November 1.)

Check the rate change dates here: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...htm#change
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Is the current rate zero?

Nvm saw that on the web site. It is.
Last edited by thchan December 12, 2021 at 12:33 PM.
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Quote from 343guiltyspark :
The key difference here is that these are Treasury bills guaranteed by the U.S. Treasury to pay back.

Pre-2008 mortgage backed securities were secured by pools of risky mortgages that inevitably declined in value.

Not sure you can compare shady banks indication to pay based on values of highly speculative loans circa 2008 against the U.S. Treasury's promise to pay.
The housing collapse of 2008 was caused by Democrat policies, which forced banks to loan money to certain underrepresented demographics or face scrutiny for racist lending practices. In other words, the collapse was caused by woke politicians bullying the free market.
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Never say NEVER......where is Rome and Egypt today ....once great empires !!
I do not see the word 'NEVER' in my post.
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Quote from bizcut99 :
Thanks. Did this in November. Will do again in January.
I didn't expect this topic to just explode like this! My intent was to just share what a short term investment might look like for some. It is for sure better than the whopping 0.1% my saving account was paying.

I am not sure on the paper series I bonds though. You have to have a refund from the feds to get the $5K in bonds? Do you know?
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Quote from acegolfer :
BLS.gov releases CPI-U level every month. However, the i-bond rates are determined semiannually (around April 15th and Oct 15th).
What I mean is cpi is being recalculated next month. The last time they did this is when they introduced hedonics 5 years ago
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Quote from Maxim726X :
You seem to be ignoring the first part of my response, you know... The up 24 YTD.

Even if the market tanks (i.e. loses 30%), still puts you ahead of these returns.
So you're gonna go back in time? Cool. Oh wait. You don't know what's going to happen. Cool again. You are really confused
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Quote from dn90003 :
I didn't expect this topic to just explode like this! My intent was to just share what a short term investment might look like for some. It is for sure better than the whopping 0.1% my saving account was paying.

I am not sure on the paper series I bonds though. You have to have a refund from the feds to get the $5K in bonds? Do you know?
Pay $5000+ extra using https://www.irs.gov/payments/pay-...redit-card then in your tax return choose refund by I bond plus earn credit card cash back too

make sure you enter the extra payment in your tax return https://ttlc.intuit.com/community.../00/461340
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Quote from dn90003 :
I didn't expect this topic to just explode like this! My intent was to just share what a short term investment might look like for some. It is for sure better than the whopping 0.1% my saving account was paying.

I am not sure on the paper series I bonds though. You have to have a refund from the feds to get the $5K in bonds? Do you know?
You can use your tax refund to buy up to 5K in additional paper bonds do yes, you need a refund to do it. I tend to make extra payments when trying to hit a cc spending bonus.
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Quote from dn90003 :
I didn't expect this topic to just explode like this! My intent was to just share what a short term investment might look like for some. It is for sure better than the whopping 0.1% my saving account was paying.

I am not sure on the paper series I bonds though. You have to have a refund from the feds to get the $5K in bonds? Do you know?
Not sure. I don't know that I am going to mess with the paper.
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Quote from bizcut99 :
Not sure. I don't know that I am going to mess with the paper.
You can convert them to electronic after you get them.

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for people who have opened account and transferred fund, how was the experience? what is this 'medallion signature' thing I heard about? Is it required during the account open and fund transfer process?

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