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US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (Nov '21 - April '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

7.12% Interest

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U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

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About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Note: This popular deal is still available.

U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

Thanks to community member dn90003 for sharing this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Written by BostonGirl
Refer to the forum thread here for more information and details.

Original Post

Written by dn90003

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Looks tempting. But these are only rated for inflation as fixed rate is 0%. Once inflation is back down, your rate will go down with it.
In case you're wondering, here's how the rate is computed:
Composite rate =
No, these are govt bonds. They stay in the treasury. I bonds are based on the rate of inflation. They have a fixed rate plus the current rate of inflation. Inflation goes up, you earn more. It was 3.54%. Rates went up on 11/1. To realize the full benefit you need to buy before the rates change on 5/1 and 11/1. No fees or penalties. Hold for a min.of a year. If you cash out in less than 5 years you forfeit 3 months interest. After 5 years, you don't pay anything. You can only buy $10k/yr and then up to an additional $5k if purchased directly from your tax refund.
I bought $10k in denominations of 2,3, 5 so if I want to cash out I can do it in chunks instead of having to cash out $10k.: Better than any CD or bank rate if you want to stay in cash.
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm

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Last I checked Trump was no longer in office, and no longer has power to influence the current and future rate of inflation. My criticism is about what is currently being done given the current rate of inflation. There can be all kinds of debate about who or what is responsible for the current rate of inflation. It's obvious it's a combination of the pandemic, the previous administration's tax cuts and policies, and the current administration's spending and policies.

For those who don't know, the $1-$2 Trillion quoted cost of the TCJA is over a 10 year period. It went into effect in 2018. If the current administration changes anything, then the $1.5 Trillion quoted could change significantly. To say that the tax cut has no macro economic benefit is debatable, because like you pointed out, there are other factors at play which interfered with our economy as a whole. The pandemic (or more precisely the policies implemented as a result of the pandemic) have been impacting our economy. To reach the conclusion; the TCJA has no macro economic benefit is hard to argue given the current pandemic policies.

I for one was not a fan of many aspects of the TCJA. I also believe it to be fair to criticize both parties and their policies.
I appreciate the rational response! Peace
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Quote from acegolfer :
OP assumed 7.12% for whole year. So I made the same assumption, despite it's unlikely. To be precise, the new rate will be determined on 4/12/2022. If you buy now (December), it will be effective for 6 months starting from 6/1/2022.

Let's assume your 6%. Then, in the 2nd 6 month period, the interest income (before penalty) is 3% of $10,356.
Guys, what do u expect for 5 years?
10 years?

I see EEE series guarantee to double in 20 , is it 100% return/20 = about 5% guarantted (exclude compund effect), and all triple tax free?

Why is I series taxable for Federal? shouldnt they exempt their own product?

Learnign the products

Thank you
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talkbackfreebie
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Quote from acegolfer :
Correct. No paper bond in that case.
You can print out 1099-INT form. But no paper mail.
So I guess I have to let them know about the bonds before I pass away. I had hopes there would be paperwork for my kids to find and they would be surprised to find out about the bonds. Thanks.
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Quote from FabulousBike6172 :
Guys, what do u expect for 5 years?
10 years?

I see EEE series guarantee to double in 20 , is it 100% return/20 = about 5% guarantted (exclude compund effect), and all triple tax free?

Why is I series taxable for Federal? shouldnt they exempt their own product?

Learnign the products

Thank you
It's fruitless to predict what interest rate i-bond will pay in 5 or 10 yrs.

Correct math for EE bond is 200%^(1/20) - 1 = 3.53% (compounded annually)

Why not fed tax exempt? If exempt, it will be unfair to other bond issuers because they have to pay higher interest rate to attract lenders.
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Any tax benefits here or just high yield investment?
7.12% is a high yield investment?
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I only have an Online bank account anymore. How do you get a signature from an online bank account?
You cannot. But if you can open an account at your nearby branch such as a Credit Union or even a normal branch they can fill this form and sign it. I do not know if a bank will verify without an account there but its another option.
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Quote from bchill :
https://thefinancebuff.com/how-to...bonds.html

I just pasted it into the site and it worked again. Maybe he is getting too many hits now. It is a very good and fully accurate explanation.
Everyone reading Q&A's on this thread read the link above FIRST. I promise you that it'll be an easy read and many questions answered. Helped me out a TON.

and to all the political talk: STOP. PLEASE JUST STOP. I have strong opinions like many but this isn't the forum.

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Quote from talkbackfreebie :
So I guess I have to let them know about the bonds before I pass away. I had hopes there would be paperwork for my kids to find and they would be surprised to find out about the bonds. Thanks.
you can print a gift certificate. https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...icates.htm
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Quote from alwaysziv :
Everyone reading Q&A's on this thread read the link above FIRST. I promise you that it'll be an easy read and many questions answered. Helped me out a TON.

and to all the political talk: STOP. PLEASE JUST STOP. I have strong opinions like many but this isn't the forum.
Sadly, many don't even bother to read the wiki judging by the same questions being asked over and over. It might be too much for them to click a link 😜

Agreed on political talk. But there isn't much so that's good.
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Quote from sdeal_77 :
You cannot. But if you can open an account at your nearby branch such as a Credit Union or even a normal branch they can fill this form and sign it. I do not know if a bank will verify without an account there but its another option.
Thanks. It's a bummer that someone cannot sign if they have an online only account. Many good, large banks have online only accounts now like Schwab, Ally and Fidelity. Not to mention Goldman Sachs and some other brokerages also have online only accounts.
The govt should change with the times
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music_mania90
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Is this a better option than putting liquid cash in bank, I know I can't take it out for one year but after that is it better to keep it here . Take out when you need the money
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Nice CNN style attempt at rebranding the truth.

So yes. It was quoted just shy of $100M, and ran up over $1.6B LMAO. It had more than volume issues. It was also riddled with logical bugs. Mu fiancé is a senior developer and has read deeply into it. It should have been extensively tested and for the cost, handled the volume and run like clockwork on day one but it was garbage for over a month.

Government incompetence at its finest, not to mention its a boondoggle wrapped around more government incompetence trying to run healthcare. Slow clap…
I'm rebranding the truth? Every main point in your original post was false, with the exception of the cost (which is misleading in itself). While it was definitely annoying that the website was glitchy in October of 2013, the plans didn't go into effect until January of 2014, so it didn't affect anyone's ability to sign up on time. It's honestly weird that it's still brought up like it was anything other than a short term annoyance.

As for your last paragraph of lazy talking point cliches, my Obamacare plans have been miles better than any private healthcare I had previously and have saved me over $70,000 in premiums and health care costs.
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Quote from sam_ay :
Thanks. It's a bummer that someone cannot sign if they have an online only account. Many good, large banks have online only accounts now like Schwab, Ally and Fidelity. Not to mention Goldman Sachs and some other brokerages also have online only accounts.
The govt should change with the times
I think the issue is Treasury is unable to verify your details. Doesn't happen for everyone (for e.g. mine worked without verification but my wife's didn't). Not sure if the system detected something that didn't add up that they did the manual one (of course with govt these are common than simply asking us to upload the ID and confirming it)

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Quote from sam_ay :
Thanks. It's a bummer that someone cannot sign if they have an online only account. Many good, large banks have online only accounts now like Schwab, Ally and Fidelity. Not to mention Goldman Sachs and some other brokerages also have online only accounts.
The govt should change with the times
I don't know about some, but Schwab and Fidelity have offices in my town where I've had to visit for in person transactions.

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