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US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (Nov '21 - April '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

7.12% Interest

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U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

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About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Note: This popular deal is still available.

U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

Thanks to community member dn90003 for sharing this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Written by BostonGirl
Refer to the forum thread here for more information and details.

Original Post

Written by dn90003

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Looks tempting. But these are only rated for inflation as fixed rate is 0%. Once inflation is back down, your rate will go down with it.
In case you're wondering, here's how the rate is computed:
Composite rate =
No, these are govt bonds. They stay in the treasury. I bonds are based on the rate of inflation. They have a fixed rate plus the current rate of inflation. Inflation goes up, you earn more. It was 3.54%. Rates went up on 11/1. To realize the full benefit you need to buy before the rates change on 5/1 and 11/1. No fees or penalties. Hold for a min.of a year. If you cash out in less than 5 years you forfeit 3 months interest. After 5 years, you don't pay anything. You can only buy $10k/yr and then up to an additional $5k if purchased directly from your tax refund.
I bought $10k in denominations of 2,3, 5 so if I want to cash out I can do it in chunks instead of having to cash out $10k.: Better than any CD or bank rate if you want to stay in cash.
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm

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acegolfer
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Quote from FancyKite319 :
If you have an account that has correct banking information, you can buy in that account with his name / SSN and then deliver the purchased bond to his account or keep in your account as a gift. I do this for my kids - they don't have their own account, rather it stays in my account as a gift I purchased. I deliver bonds purchased for my spouse to her account but I do all purchases from 1 account that has been setup and validated correctly.
For anyone reading this, be cautious. If they couldn't verify their information to successfully open an account, they will face the same issue after they receive the gift and want to cash out.
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acegolfer
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Quote from mint0909 :
if you invest 10k, you don't get $712 each month? I thought the interest was given monthly?
No. 7.12% is, just like any other interest rates, annualized figure. But true interest is accrued each month. So in the 1st month, you will earn 7.12%/12 (before penalty). Then it compounds semiannually.
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Cmurphy16
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Quote from septin :
Is this true? Please show your evidence.


What I saw is: 7.12 is good for six months.
What do I need to show? Interest rates are annual whereas the person I originally responded to thought they were monthly.
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rickster9
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That last step in the process in confusing. Can there be a second owner or only a POD beneficiary?
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talkbackfreebie
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Quote from Cmurphy16 :
What do I need to show? Interest rates are annual whereas the person I originally responded to thought they were monthly.
Maybe he was responding to the part of your post where you mentioned Goldman?
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acegolfer
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Quote from rickster9 :
That last step in the process in confusing. Can there be a second owner or only a POD beneficiary?
Yes, primary owner can add/modify a 2nd owner and beneficiary separately any time.
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Quote from acegolfer :
For anyone reading this, be cautious. If they couldn't verify their information to successfully open an account, they will face the same issue after they receive the gift and want to cash out.
The post you responded to was directed at me. It had nothing to do with verifying the personal information. I must have put in the wrong routing number or account number so the they could not withdraw the funds from my account. I had success with the three other accounts I opened; just must have had a typo on this last one. So I did as he suggested and did a gift under my main account. Should be fine.

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After following this thread for a number of days it seems there are two main things that confuse people trying to determine if I Bonds are a good deal. First is the 3 month penalty if the bonds are sold before 5 years. Second is the unknown interest rate after the first 6 months when the interest rate resets. Let me throw out a improbable absolute worst case scenario.

You buy a bond for $10K. The day after you buy your bond inflation drops to 0% and stays there for the entire remainder of the year.. You cash the bond at exactly one year and pay the 3 month penalty. You will be getting no additional interest for the second half of the year since the rate reset to 0%. You will lose 0% due to the penalty. Your $10K will now be worth (slightly more with compounding) $10,365. That is 6 months at 7.12% APR and 6 months at 0%.

The best 6 month CD right now pays 0.75%, so $10K would earn a little over $37 for the 6 months. After 6 months you would need to find another 6 month CD that is paying around 6.5% to earn as much as the I bond paid. Interest rates NEVER move that fast.

The bottom line is that I Bonds are the best game in town for cash holdings. Even in the worst case, they beat CDs and savings accounts by a long shot. If you have a emergency fund, put a portion of it in these bonds. If you have cash that you don't want to risk in the market, buy these bonds. Don't worry about the penalty or having to hold for 5 years. Don't worry about the interest rate reset after 6 months; it does not matter. After the first year and every 6 months after that, look at the current inflation rate the bonds are paying. If you can get a better safe interest rate, sell the bonds and move on. Keep in mind that these bonds are exempt from state and local taxes. Savings accounts and CDs are not. To get the same rate after taxes you will need need a higher CD rate than the I Bonds if you pay state taxes.

And yes, the Treasury Direct website sucks.
Last edited by HilariousRecess268 December 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM.
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Quote from mint0909 :
if you invest 10k, you don't get $712 each month? I thought the interest was given monthly?
Like 85% annually? Smilie
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What a dysfunctional process. I tried to buy these a few days before this was posted (Dec. 10) and I was asked for a stamped form from my bank. My account is also locked so I can't login to check the status of that. They ask me to call a number to clear it up and I've been on hold for hours. Is this going smoothly for everyone else??

Edit: finally got connected and they told me they have no idea why this would happen and they can't do anything about it but someone will call me back, hopefully within 2-3 days. Not expecting that to happen.
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When I signed up in October, I signed up completely online in about 5 minutes without any extra hoops to jump through. HTH
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Site down. Government can't handle treasury's website yet people want them handling our lives from cradle to grave. I don't want government in charge of my healthcare, investments, child care or college. The private sector is always better at handling almost everything.
Working fine for me. Maybe it's your ISP we don't want handling things.
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Quote from NervousGoat199 :
There was a recent survey saying that over 50% of Americans didn't have 3 months worth of emergency savings.
Survey: Nearly 4 in 10 Americans would borrow money to cover a $1K emergency [Bankrate [bankrate.com]]

That's a scary survey.

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Quote from practicalme :
Survey: Nearly 4 in 10 Americans would borrow money to cover a $1K emergency [Bankrate [bankrate.com]]

That's a scary survey.
Yes it is.

I know that it can be difficult to make ends meet in these difficult times, but there is always somewhere you can cut to do a little saving. An emergency fund is SO important. A very long time ago when I first began my career, I was unable to meet all my my expenses without working overtime. I played all the games to save money and everything was very close to being negative at the end of the month. It took effort, but even if it was only $20, I would put something in savings. Eventually, you get a raise in your wages. You need the strength to put that additional income toward savings. You were getting by on your previous wages, so why can't you still do it? Over time the saving can really stack up and you will be financially secure some day.
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Quote from MadPup :
The bottom line is...

If you have money sitting in cash (or money market account, or savings account) that you won't need within the next year then this is a better alternative.

If you are investing for the long term (5+ years) then an S&P or total market index fund is a better choice.

If you are interested at crypto then there are lots of options with varying levels of risks and returns. YouTube is awash with information/bs but tldr; the odds are very much against finding another Bitcoin. There may be other opportunities but knowledge is power and if you can't put in the (lot of) effort to understand wtf it's all about you are best to stay out of it.
Yea a 3.52% floor (pretax) guaranteed 1 yr return is better than any CD offered in over a decade. A no brainer if you have cash equivalence set aside for non-emergency use.

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