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2.9" CIVIVI Elementum S35VN Liner Lock Knife (Stonewash or Black Stonewash)

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BladeHQ has 2.9" CIVIVI Elementum S35VN Liner Lock Knife (Stonewash or Black Stonewash) on sale for $59.99. Shipping is free with orders $99+, or shipping is $2.99.

Thanks to Community Member Gambit16 for posting this deal.Key Features / Specs:
  • Overall Length: 6.99"
  • Blade Length: 2.96"
  • Cutting Edge: 2.625"
  • Blade Width: 0.88"
  • Blade Thickness: 0.11"
  • Blade Material: CPM S35VN
  • Blade Style: Drop Point
  • Blade Grind: Hollow
  • Edge Type: Plain
  • Handle Length: 4.03"
  • Handle Width: 1.00"
  • Handle Thickness: 0.42"
  • Handle Material: G-10
  • Color: Jade
  • Frame/Liner: Stainless Steel
  • Weight: 2.71 oz.
  • User: Right Hand
  • Pocket Clip: Tip-Up
  • Knife Type: Manual
  • Opener: Flipper
  • Lock Type: Liner Lock

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Written by Corwin | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • These CIVIVI Elementum Liner Lock Knives are priced $33.51 lower (35.8% savings) than the listed MSRP.
  • About this store:
    • To view the BladeHQ return policy click here. -Corwin

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BladeHQ has 2.9" CIVIVI Elementum S35VN Liner Lock Knife (Stonewash or Black Stonewash) on sale for $59.99. Shipping is free with orders $99+, or shipping is $2.99.

Thanks to Community Member Gambit16 for posting this deal.Key Features / Specs:
  • Overall Length: 6.99"
  • Blade Length: 2.96"
  • Cutting Edge: 2.625"
  • Blade Width: 0.88"
  • Blade Thickness: 0.11"
  • Blade Material: CPM S35VN
  • Blade Style: Drop Point
  • Blade Grind: Hollow
  • Edge Type: Plain
  • Handle Length: 4.03"
  • Handle Width: 1.00"
  • Handle Thickness: 0.42"
  • Handle Material: G-10
  • Color: Jade
  • Frame/Liner: Stainless Steel
  • Weight: 2.71 oz.
  • User: Right Hand
  • Pocket Clip: Tip-Up
  • Knife Type: Manual
  • Opener: Flipper
  • Lock Type: Liner Lock

Editor's Notes

Written by Corwin | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • These CIVIVI Elementum Liner Lock Knives are priced $33.51 lower (35.8% savings) than the listed MSRP.
  • About this store:
    • To view the BladeHQ return policy click here. -Corwin

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Gambit16
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What are you on about? You're comparing knives that are 2-3x more of the cost of this Elementum and pretending like they're the same price. No, a Civivi at full price isn't "in Spyderco pricing territory" as you claim. Taking your own example in the link you provided, that "cheap" (crappy) Para 3 has a MSRP of $170, compared to this S35VN Elementum's MSRP of $93.50. Sale price of the Para 3 is at $119, while this Elementum is at $60. The Spyderco is twice as expensive than this knife and the Para you linked has inferior steel and handle material.

I own a nice DLC Cruwear Para 3, a tricked out DLC M4 Paramilitary 2 with custom Fat Carbon handles and titanium hardware, and a carbon fiber 535-3 Bugout. They're all great knives, but to compare them to a Civivi Elementum is just dumb and ridiculous. Those are all premium knives which costs a lot more than this knife.

Elementum is a good, cheap EDC knife. At this price with S35VN, it's not overrated like you're saying and it's a great deal.
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Civivi is specifically the mid range brand of the higher end WE knives. Civivi/WE/Sencut and Spyderco all make great knives at different price points. Just depends on what you're into. The elementum is a go-to recommendation of mine to those who are new to EDC carrying. For those who would like to step up to the 150ish range, I agree that the para3 and PM2 are time proven, solid knives. The compression lock coupled with the spydiehole are fantastic.

I just don't think poo-pooing a knife that is specifically priced for a different type of user is fair.
FujiToast
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Absolutely man! Sorry I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm making a counter point. But you're also recommending a knife that is double the price of this sale knife. Sure full-price to full-price maybe the para3 lw might be better recommendation than an s35vn elementum. But that's not this discussion. All that being said what would be your go to at $60 instead of this elementum? I think that could be helpful to others viewing this deal. I'm trying to think of knives other than Civivi that are better at this price point. The ferrum forge stinger is occasionally on sale for around this price I think. That would be a good option. What might you recommend at $60 for people to compare to?

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Dec 27, 2021 03:49 AM
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FujiToastDec 27, 2021 03:49 AM
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Quote from 91LT250R :
I know. I own Civivi Elementum knives. I purchased them based on the internet hype. They're pretty overrated knives. The Elementum looks good, but I think there are better EDC's for the money if you actually use your knives. If you just want a letter opener then it's fine.

These Civivi knives at full price are in Spyderco pricing territory which is the only reason I compared them. I'd take a Spyderco with "worse" steel for $19 more than this knife at full price.

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/...military-3
On one hand you're right. There are harder use knives but I think we're straying from the point. Sencut/Civivi/WE are good knives at their own price point. So are spyderco but spyderco doesn't have separate brands for each price point. And to be honest most people that would carry an elementum as their ONLY EDC probably mostly do cut tape, boxes and envelopes. Me included, so no judgement to others. But now this is an upgraded steel at a similar price point as the D2. I suppose whether you agree with me or not doesn't really matter really, sales of the elementum prove my point. And I mean no disrespect to you or your opinion. I assume you are likely a fellow knife bro. But this isn't a knife group page, this is a deal site and many people may buy this as their new or first EDC. I'd say it's a great option for most casual users.
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Neurotic1Dec 27, 2021 03:59 AM
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^ never heard of Byrd knives?
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Dec 27, 2021 04:05 AM
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FujiToastDec 27, 2021 04:05 AM
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Quote from Neurotic1 :
^ never heard of Byrd knives?
Oh that's right! I did forget about Byrd. They aren't my thing because I HATE lock back knives as most of them are. And honestly I'd recommend ANY civivi over a Byrd knife. Actually really Sencut is more in the Byrd price range and I'd still recommend any Sencut over a Byrd. Sencut has some great options at a fantastic value.
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fuzzycuffsDec 27, 2021 04:05 AM
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Basically the price of a regular Elementum, but with S35VN steel vs. the typical D2.

If I didn't have way too many knives (I should sell some/many) I would get this.
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fuzzycuffsDec 27, 2021 04:10 AM
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Quote from 91LT250R :
I can say I'd choose my Bugout over my Elementum for EDC use. The Elementum doesn't have the best shape for gripping the handle. The Bugout doesn't have the best handle/scales either, but at least it was designed to be streamlined and you don't notice it in your pocket. The Bugout does what it was designed to do better than the Elementum does. It also has a better locking mechanism.
Well yeah -- but the price difference ($50 for a standard Elementum, $130 for a standard Bugout).

Look at the Hogue Deka as a Bugout competitor. Better steel (20CV vs. S30V), same locking mechanism and better out-of-the-box smoothness, to me better ergonomics, at the same price.
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odie91Dec 27, 2021 04:13 AM
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It's not the skill it's the equipment. I don't think I can sharpen sv35 with just a stone.. Or can I?
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Quote from 91LT250R :
I know. I own Civivi Elementum knives. I purchased them based on the internet hype. They're pretty overrated knives. The Elementum looks good, but I think there are better EDC's for the money if you actually use your knives. If you just want a letter opener then it's fine.

These Civivi knives at full price are in Spyderco pricing territory which is the only reason I compared them. I'd take a Spyderco with "worse" steel for $19 more than this knife at full price.

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/...military-3
Quote from 91LT250R :
I can say I'd choose my Bugout over my Elementum for EDC use. The Elementum doesn't have the best shape for gripping the handle. The Bugout doesn't have the best handle/scales either, but at least it was designed to be streamlined and you don't notice it in your pocket. The Bugout does what it was designed to do better than the Elementum does. It also has a better locking mechanism.
What are you on about? You're comparing knives that are 2-3x more of the cost of this Elementum and pretending like they're the same price. No, a Civivi at full price isn't "in Spyderco pricing territory" as you claim. Taking your own example in the link you provided, that "cheap" (crappy) Para 3 has a MSRP of $170, compared to this S35VN Elementum's MSRP of $93.50. Sale price of the Para 3 is at $119, while this Elementum is at $60. The Spyderco is twice as expensive than this knife and the Para you linked has inferior steel and handle material.

I own a nice DLC Cruwear Para 3, a tricked out DLC M4 Paramilitary 2 with custom Fat Carbon handles and titanium hardware, and a carbon fiber 535-3 Bugout. They're all great knives, but to compare them to a Civivi Elementum is just dumb and ridiculous. Those are all premium knives which costs a lot more than this knife.

Elementum is a good, cheap EDC knife. At this price with S35VN, it's not overrated like you're saying and it's a great deal.
Last edited by Gambit16 December 26, 2021 at 08:17 PM.
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FujiToastDec 27, 2021 04:15 AM
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Quote from 91LT250R :
I'm not straying from any point. I made my point and you're trying to change my mind, but I still disagree with you.

The Spyderco to which I linked will be much better for cutting cardboard boxes. You could argue the differences in steel back and forth all day long, but BD1N is no slouch and the Para 3 provides a much better gripping surface than the Elementum. And the Spyderco Para 3 is completely fine as an EDC even in an office setting. The BD1N of the Spyderco is also much easier to sharpen than S35VN which may or may not be important to people new to knives.

This isn't a knife group. But I like to share my knowledge so that people who are new to knives can use it to make their own, educated opinion.
Absolutely man! Sorry I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm making a counter point. But you're also recommending a knife that is double the price of this sale knife. Sure full-price to full-price maybe the para3 lw might be better recommendation than an s35vn elementum. But that's not this discussion. All that being said what would be your go to at $60 instead of this elementum? I think that could be helpful to others viewing this deal. I'm trying to think of knives other than Civivi that are better at this price point. The ferrum forge stinger is occasionally on sale for around this price I think. That would be a good option. What might you recommend at $60 for people to compare to?
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Gambit16
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Quote from 91LT250R :
If you pay $170 for that Para 3 then you didn't look hard enough. It can always be found for $120. So I'll just stop you there.

I think the Elementum is overrated. If you actually read the entire thread, I said this version at this price is worth it.
I was comparing the example you provided yourself. Nobody would ever pay $170 for that crappy Para 3. Nice of you to ignore what I said right after, that your Para 3 example is still twice as expensive as this Elementum, but is made with inferior materials.

I read this thread. Your "knowledge" on knives is garbage, as is your example and reasoning to try and make the Elementum seem overrated.
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userdealDec 27, 2021 04:23 AM
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Fairly small hollow ground knife and made in China, I think a full flat Delica for EDC is better.
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Paladin3Dec 27, 2021 04:24 AM
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Quote from raf1919 :
It's not the skill it's the equipment. I don't think I can sharpen sv35 with just a stone.. Or can I?
You can sharpen all non-serrated knives on a stone if you have the correct grit and hardness. You'll just need to start on something coarse if the blade is dull, then progress to medium and fine stones, and then maybe a leather stop depending on how finely polished you want the edge.

S35vn is not particularly difficult to sharpen. D2 is usually hardened to a higher HRC and considered harder to sharpen, but you just need the right tools. I've got expensive stones that do a great job, but do all my sharpening on a Work Sharp Guided Sharpener [amazon.com] these days. Great investment you can usually find for $25-$30. It's got coarse and fine diamond plates, a coarse/fine/fishhook rotating ceramic rod, leather stop and a small ceramic rod for sharpening serrations. It also has built in angle guides. If you can use a stone then this thing makes sharpening fairly easy.

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Paladin3Dec 27, 2021 04:41 AM
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Quote from Neurotic1 :
^ never heard of Byrd knives?
Spyderco has gotten a bit ridiculous with their pricing on their budget line. I've got the Tenacious, Cara Cara 2 and the Resilience, but $45-$60 for any knife in 8Cr13MoV is really pushing it. And the fact that Tenacious and Resilience are famous for lack of blade centering is additional proof. You really need to catch a good sale, or there are better options for the money.
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