4-Pack SYLVANIA Recessed LED Ceiling Light w/ Trim (800 Lumen, 2700K, 65W) Expired

I can't get this shipped to SoCal what's up?

California State Laws.

You cannot buy LED's with a CRI below 90. These bulbs have a CRI of 80. That's why LED bulbs in CA are relatively expensive to the rest of the country.

A higher CRI gives you better quality color. I think perfect is the sun - 100; incandescents were 99.

I can't get this shipped to SoCal what's up?

2700K is gross. 80 CRI is kinda yucky too.

i actually got the 5000k and returned it for the 2700k. The white light of 5000k is not to my taste. I don't know what the difference would be between 2700 and 3000

Why aren't these available with more than 800 Lumens? I've love 1000 or 1200 lumen versions.

I've never heard of this brand (which isn't surprising, since there are lots of new sellers on Amazon these days). Does anyone have experience with Sigalux bulbs? Wondering about the durability and life of these bulbs.

I need to buy BR30 bulbs (LED) soon so am curious about this vendor, Sigalux, as the price looks enticing. You save even more if you buy a 12 pack ($19.60, or $1.63/bulb at the time I write this).

Even though there is a "free return" policy via Amazon, that's only good for about a month. It's doubtful any bulb would burn out/fail in a month, so there's a chance one buys these bulbs and discovers 6 months later that the bulbs are low quality. At that point they can't be returned as the return policy will have expired.

However I do see that Sigalux does offer a 3-year warranty, which is reasonable as long as the company is established and doesn't go out of business or has poor customer service.

It's important to buy from a reputable company. About 10 years ago, I upgraded the lights in our house from incandescent to CFL (to save energy and cost). The bulbs were manufactured by Feit Electric (https://www.feit.com). After about a year I noticed some bulbs began to fail, even though they were rated to last "13 years, based on usage of 3 hours per day." The bulbs that failed were in low-usage areas (definitely not being used even close to 3 hours per day), so it was unexpected to see 2-3 bulbs fail after about 12-18 months. So I contacted Feit Electric and they sent replacement bulbs. A couple of years later more low-usage bulbs failed and by that time LEDs were growing in popularity, so Feit sent LED bulbs as warranty replacements. And, recently, I had a 3-way CFL bulb (also from Feit Electric) that failed in our living room lamp. I contacted Feit and within about a week they sent a replacement 3-way LED bulb (even though this CFL 3-way bulb likely went out of warranty some years ago; it has lasted a long time, but less than the "13 year" lifetime estimate provided by Feit on the packaging). Feit even made a slight mistake and sent a bonus LED bulb (so they sent 2 instead of 1). I contacted them and they apologized for the error & asked me to please enjoy the extra bulb!

My mother also had an issue with a Feit CFL failing, followed similar steps and got a replacement. So, as long as the manufacturer is reputable and will stand behind their products, I think this would be a good purchase. Happy shopping!

Update - Found their website, been in business since 2009. Appears to be a German company with US support office now open. https://www.sigalux.com/pages/about-us

I've never heard of this brand (which isn't surprising, since there are lots of new sellers on Amazon these days). Does anyone have experience with Sigalux bulbs? Wondering about the durability and life of these bulbs.

I need to buy BR30 bulbs (LED) soon so am curious about this vendor, Sigalux, as the price looks enticing. You save even more if you buy a 12 pack ($19.60, or $1.63/bulb at the time I write this).

Even though there is a "free return" policy via Amazon, that's only good for about a month. It's doubtful any bulb would burn out/fail in a month, so there's a chance one buys these bulbs and discovers 6 months later that the bulbs are low quality. At that point they can't be returned as the return policy will have expired.

However I do see that Sigalux does offer a 3-year warranty, which is reasonable as long as the company is established and doesn't go out of business or has poor customer service.

It's important to buy from a reputable company. About 10 years ago, I upgraded the lights in our house from incandescent to CFL (to save energy and cost). The bulbs were manufactured by Feit Electric (https://www.feit.com). After about a year I noticed some bulbs began to fail, even though they were rated to last "13 years, based on usage of 3 hours per day." The bulbs that failed were in low-usage areas (definitely not being used even close to 3 hours per day), so it was unexpected to see 2-3 bulbs fail after about 12-18 months. So I contacted Feit Electric and they sent replacement bulbs. A couple of years later more low-usage bulbs failed and by that time LEDs were growing in popularity, so Feit sent LED bulbs as warranty replacements. And, recently, I had a 3-way CFL bulb (also from Feit Electric) that failed in our living room lamp. I contacted Feit and within about a week they sent a replacement 3-way LED bulb (even though this CFL 3-way bulb likely went out of warranty some years ago; it has lasted a long time, but less than the "13 year" lifetime estimate provided by Feit on the packaging). Feit even made a slight mistake and sent a bonus LED bulb (so they sent 2 instead of 1). I contacted them and they apologized for the error & asked me to please enjoy the extra bulb!

My mother also had an issue with a Feit CFL failing, followed similar steps and got a replacement. So, as long as the manufacturer is reputable and will stand behind their products, I think this would be a good purchase. Happy shopping!

Update - Found their website, been in business since 2009. Appears to be a German company with US support office now open. https://www.sigalux.com/pages/about-us

I can't get this shipped to SoCal what's up?

California State Laws.

You cannot buy LED's with a CRI below 90. These bulbs have a CRI of 80. That's why LED bulbs in CA are relatively expensive to the rest of the country.

A higher CRI gives you better quality color. I think perfect is the sun - 100; incandescents were 99.

It causes cancer in California.

Interesting -- I learned something new today.

If anyone doesn't feel like Googling, higher CRI is better quality color, as the post above says, but it also means some increase in power (i.e. less efficient).

Proponents of the law wanted Californians to adopt LED lighting to replace incandescent and CFL but are concerned that if the lights are poor quality, people will say LEDs suck and not make the switch. They argued that this hurt adoption of CFLs when those were new and everyone had incandescent. Yes, higher LED prices will also mean less adoption, but their concern is that lower-quality lighting will hurt more.

Those against the law generally argue that CRI of 80 is good enough, and the increase in LED prices will hurt adoption more than a reduction in quality from CRI 90 -> 80 would have. For obvious reasons, lighting manufacturers generally take this position.

I have no argument either way.

I loved CFL bulbs at first, but had a few start smoking and probably would have gone up in flames if I didn't turn them off. I have 2 left in use and should replace them ASAP, is one is on a timer to be on when I'm not home!

I've had a similar experience with Feit but came to a different conclusion. Of the 12 Feit LEDs I've bought, which advertise 10+ year lifespans, 5 started strobing within a year.
When the first 2 went, I contacted Feit and eventually got warranty replacements. Since then, when they failed I have just trashed them, and decided never to buy Feit bulbs again. They are 6mo to 1yr bulbs and that's not acceptable regardless of warranty.