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expiredmrphilbin posted Jan 03, 2022 06:46 PM
expiredmrphilbin posted Jan 03, 2022 06:46 PM

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop: Ryzen 3 5300G, GTX 1660 Super, 8GB DDR4, 256GB SSD

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HP.com has HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop on sale for $639.99 when you follow the deal instructions below. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member mrphi76 for finding this deal.

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Deal Instructions:
  1. Go to HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop
  2. Click Customize & Buy
  3. Under Graphics card, select the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super (6 GB GDDR6 dedicated) +$90
  4. Click Add to Cart
  5. Price in cart will be $639.99 + Free Shipping
Specs:
  • AMD Ryzen 3 5300G 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • 8GB DDR4-3200 Memory (2x4GB)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • Windows 11 Home
  • HP Wired Keyboard + Wired Optical Mouse

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  • About this deal:
    • This price is $100 lower than the list price.
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • Refer to the forum thread for alternative configuration ideas & offer discussion.
  • About this product:
    • Comes with a 1-year limited warranty.
  • About this store:
    • HP.com offers a 30 day return policy for most products. See the HP.com returns page for additional details.

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HP.com has HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop on sale for $639.99 when you follow the deal instructions below. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member mrphi76 for finding this deal.

Note: Estimated shipping date will be shown in cart.

Deal Instructions:
  1. Go to HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop
  2. Click Customize & Buy
  3. Under Graphics card, select the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super (6 GB GDDR6 dedicated) +$90
  4. Click Add to Cart
  5. Price in cart will be $639.99 + Free Shipping
Specs:
  • AMD Ryzen 3 5300G 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • 8GB DDR4-3200 Memory (2x4GB)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • Windows 11 Home
  • HP Wired Keyboard + Wired Optical Mouse

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $100 lower than the list price.
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • Refer to the forum thread for alternative configuration ideas & offer discussion.
  • About this product:
    • Comes with a 1-year limited warranty.
  • About this store:
    • HP.com offers a 30 day return policy for most products. See the HP.com returns page for additional details.

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KiltedOne
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Ship date end of March, dang
PlatinumButterfly
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I took a quick look at eBay and 1080 (non-Ti) cards in working condition are still usually selling for $500. Local sale prices (for cash) would probably be more like $400. So, if you assume the high end value for the 1080, that makes the rest of the PC $350

A 6700K sells for at least $100-150... and that is just the CPU by itself with no cooler or anything. For used RAM and PSU, I'd say $50 each. Used small SSD, only $25 b/c really this is only for Windows OS/boot drive and you'll need to buy another SSD to actually install games. Cooler I consider a freebie on a completed system. Who knows when the AIO may fail. Air tower coolers are more reliable long-term IME (I have one over 10 years old still running with the original fan).

I know a lot of other replies here say that the total value should be $500 but that is too low unless they are all finding used 1080s for cheaper than what I'm seeing. I'd say a 1080 by itself in working condition is worth $400-500.

Personally ... I'd estimate the total value at $750 if you assume the 1080 is worth $500. Or $650 if you assume the 1080 is $400.

BUT - That assumes you are okay with buying an older PC. That RAM is almost 2 generations old at this point and the CPU is pretty long in the tooth. Over time, you'll be spending more money on electricity due to the inefficiency of the CPU not to mention you'll probably peg the CPU easily depending on what you are doing.

If it were me personally... I'd rather buy a used 1080 for a full $500 and buy a brand new CPU and do a fresh build. Or for that matter, just swallow $800 and get a 3060Ti from a scalper if $500 for a 1080 is your reference point. The 3060Ti is noticeably more powerful than a 1080, can do Ray Tracing, and also far more energy efficient as well. With an AMD CPU, you can run a 3060 Ti on a 500W PSU no problem. I'm running dual GPUs on a 600W PSU this very moment and I've never even pulled 500W from the wall even during a stress test.
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I'm still waiting on my HP envy desktop that I ordered on Dec 1 and was supposed to ship out Dec 22, now revised to Jan 4 shipping. I am not sure if that's gonna happen.Mad

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Jan 09, 2022 08:30 PM
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GreenKite4385Jan 09, 2022 08:30 PM
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They're killing me with the ryzen 3's. It's a gaming computer why would they put a less than in a desktop and ryzen 5 in the laptops?
Jan 10, 2022 06:16 AM
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duhhJan 10, 2022 06:16 AM
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Quote from GreenKite4385 :
They're killing me with the ryzen 3's. It's a gaming computer why would they put a less than in a desktop and ryzen 5 in the laptops?
1) if you NEED a 1660 super, or there about, this whole PC is close to market price for the GPU new. Not saying that is sane, but that is what the market dictates.

2) The upgrade to the Ryzen 5 is a decent value.

Personally, I have one of the kid's computers rocking an RX480 with aging drivers/support. These CPUs are APUs. I'm upgrading to the 5600G. I will strip the GPU to replace my kid's RX480 and the HP will drive our pinball table. Will add some RAM, of course. Fantastic deal, if it fits your circumstances.
Jan 10, 2022 06:29 AM
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nosurprisesplsJan 10, 2022 06:29 AM
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<p>I ordered an HP Omen on 11/25, and they est. delivery date of 12/24. I ended up getting the PC a couple days ago on 1/7. So it was delayed a couple of weeks. Overall, I'm actually pretty happy with the quality of the PC. In the current GPU shortage, it seems to only make sense to buy prebuild PCs. I hear the Pavilion uses more proprietary parts though vs the Omen line.</p>
Jan 10, 2022 06:32 AM
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luckydog97Jan 10, 2022 06:32 AM
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Quote from GreenKite4385 :
They're killing me with the ryzen 3's. It's a gaming computer why would they put a less than in a desktop and ryzen 5 in the laptops?
A desktop Ryzen 3 and a mobile Ryzen 5 aren't comparable apples to apples as they typically have different power consumptions and cooling solutions, making relative performance hard to gauge. Although some titles are CPU intensive, MOST games however will be GPU limited before being CPU limited, unless your CPU is woefully underpowered, and/or your GPU is substantially more capable than your CPU.

* Desktop CPUs are also upgradeable, whereas most laptops are not, as they're typically soldered to the motherboard.
Quote from duhh :
1) if you NEED a 1660 super, or there about, this whole PC is close to market price for the GPU new. Not saying that is sane, but that is what the market dictates.

2) The upgrade to the Ryzen 5 is a decent value.

Personally, I have one of the kid's computers rocking an RX480 with aging drivers/support. These CPUs are APUs. I'm upgrading to the 5600G. I will strip the GPU to replace my kid's RX480 and the HP will drive our pinball table. Will add some RAM, of course. Fantastic deal, if it fits your circumstances.
Yes, brand new 1660 Supers are going for around $450-$500, BUT not all 1660 supers are created equal. I'm not sure which model is in this machine, but it's likely an HP oem card, which isn't worth the premium of a high grade card.

I agree though, for the right person, with today's price, not a bad deal being brand new with a warranty.

* If someone wants to game on a budget, an older office machine for $100, with a $30 500W power supply and a used RX 580 4GB or 1060 3GB would be about $350 invested for a machine that will play just about anything at 1080p with medium settings and get 60FPS.
Jan 10, 2022 10:45 AM
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lemonadeJan 10, 2022 10:45 AM
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Quote from luckydog97 :
A desktop Ryzen 3 and a mobile Ryzen 5 aren't comparable apples to apples as they typically have different power consumptions and cooling solutions, making relative performance hard to gauge. Although some titles are CPU intensive, MOST games however will be GPU limited before being CPU limited, unless your CPU is woefully underpowered, and/or your GPU is substantially more capable than your CPU.

* Desktop CPUs are also upgradeable, whereas most laptops are not, as they're typically soldered to the motherboard.

Yes, brand new 1660 Supers are going for around $450-$500, BUT not all 1660 supers are created equal. I'm not sure which model is in this machine, but it's likely an HP oem card, which isn't worth the premium of a high grade card.

I agree though, for the right person, with today's price, not a bad deal being brand new with a warranty.

* If someone wants to game on a budget, an older office machine for $100, with a $30 500W power supply and a used RX 580 4GB or 1060 3GB would be about $350 invested for a machine that will play just about anything at 1080p with medium settings and get 60FPS.
Dude, I'm using my Dell XPS i5-2400 with 1060 3GB, you are absolutely right, I can play most game medium to high at 1080p close to 60 FPS. A lot of time FPS is CPU limited, like CPU 100% and GPU running 70%. I need a new desktop, can't believe it's 10 years already LOL
Jan 10, 2022 11:19 AM
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luckydog97Jan 10, 2022 11:19 AM
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Quote from lemonade :
Dude, I'm using my Dell XPS i5-2400 with 1060 3GB, you are absolutely right, I can play most game medium to high at 1080p close to 60 FPS. A lot of time FPS is CPU limited, like CPU 100% and GPU running 70%. I need a new desktop, can't believe it's 10 years already LOL
Lol, yeah that's sounds like a CPU limited system. The 1060 has aged well. It's been a great card for years now.

If you haven't already, might consider looking into the most powerful chip for the socket your motherboard accepts. You may be able to get a decent upgrade for quite cheap to buy you some time for supply to catch up and demand to weaken, brining more reasonable prices and availability.
Jan 10, 2022 09:15 PM
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lemonadeJan 10, 2022 09:15 PM
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Quote from luckydog97 :
Lol, yeah that's sounds like a CPU limited system. The 1060 has aged well. It's been a great card for years now.

If you haven't already, might consider looking into the most powerful chip for the socket your motherboard accepts. You may be able to get a decent upgrade for quite cheap to buy you some time for supply to catch up and demand to weaken, brining more reasonable prices and availability.
Yeah, I looked into that, unfortunately the best CPU the motherboard support is i7-2600, not sure if it's worth the upgrade. Hey I want to ask, during everyday use (youtube, browser whatever), I notice my system feel slower than some newer cheap system (Dell i3-10100), for example when I click fullscreen for youtube, it just feel a fraction of a second slower to respond to the newer system, is that the CPU really showing its age? I check CPU utilization, it hasn't reached 100% yet, but I know utilization is an average, it could be 1/2 second full 100%, and next 1/2 second 0% yielding a 50% reading, just an observation and hypothesis LOL

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Jan 10, 2022 11:46 PM
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martmeist3rJan 10, 2022 11:46 PM
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Quote from FUBARz :
HP gotta be the worst customer service. I returned mine and they received it on 12/14/21 and still waiting on my refund. Never again will I ever buy HP
I am in the same boat but with Dell. No refund after almost a month. Over $1000 too. Frustrating.
Jan 11, 2022 03:10 AM
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luckydog97Jan 11, 2022 03:10 AM
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Quote from lemonade :
Yeah, I looked into that, unfortunately the best CPU the motherboard support is i7-2600, not sure if it's worth the upgrade. Hey I want to ask, during everyday use (youtube, browser whatever), I notice my system feel slower than some newer cheap system (Dell i3-10100), for example when I click fullscreen for youtube, it just feel a fraction of a second slower to respond to the newer system, is that the CPU really showing its age? I check CPU utilization, it hasn't reached 100% yet, but I know utilization is an average, it could be 1/2 second full 100%, and next 1/2 second 0% yielding a 50% reading, just an observation and hypothesis LOL
Yeah I figured you'd probably already checked on that.

Even modern i3s are notably more potent per core than even high end i7s from the 2nd gen, so it could be that. It may also be differences in memory and or storage latency. It all adds up.

If you're on 2nd gen, an upgrade will be huge for you.
Jan 11, 2022 10:54 AM
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ProfessionalFanJan 11, 2022 10:54 AM
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Quote from MartmeisterDealz :
I am in the same boat but with Dell. No refund after almost a month. Over $1000 too. Frustrating.
Dell did this to me also. I ended up having to dispute the charge to get it handled.
Jan 11, 2022 04:18 PM
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leonzJan 11, 2022 04:18 PM
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Finally cancelled mine. Took days.they offered a $30 credit to keep it.
Jan 14, 2022 05:53 AM
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remmiJan 14, 2022 05:53 AM
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I bought this system right before Thanksgiving for about $575 (with a 10% off code)
Ordered on 11/21, shipped on 11/30 , arrived 12/4.
It was more than 10 days earlier than their original ETA, and I was happy.
Now the estimate ship date is Apr. , they need to pull in 2 months to make sense.
Jan 16, 2022 05:00 AM
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HanSoo417Jan 16, 2022 05:00 AM
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Is the upgrade to ryzen 5 worth it?

How about the ram to 16gb?
Jan 16, 2022 04:36 PM
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reqUser098Jan 16, 2022 04:36 PM
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Quote from HanSoo417 :
Is the upgrade to ryzen 5 worth it?

How about the ram to 16gb?
no, check out the costco deal if u need a better machine
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ed2co17Jan 18, 2022 04:23 PM
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Quote from PlatinumButterfly :
I took a quick look at eBay and 1080 (non-Ti) cards in working condition are still usually selling for $500. Local sale prices (for cash) would probably be more like $400. So, if you assume the high end value for the 1080, that makes the rest of the PC $350

A 6700K sells for at least $100-150... and that is just the CPU by itself with no cooler or anything. For used RAM and PSU, I'd say $50 each. Used small SSD, only $25 b/c really this is only for Windows OS/boot drive and you'll need to buy another SSD to actually install games. Cooler I consider a freebie on a completed system. Who knows when the AIO may fail. Air tower coolers are more reliable long-term IME (I have one over 10 years old still running with the original fan).

I know a lot of other replies here say that the total value should be $500 but that is too low unless they are all finding used 1080s for cheaper than what I'm seeing. I'd say a 1080 by itself in working condition is worth $400-500.

Personally ... I'd estimate the total value at $750 if you assume the 1080 is worth $500. Or $650 if you assume the 1080 is $400.

BUT - That assumes you are okay with buying an older PC. That RAM is almost 2 generations old at this point and the CPU is pretty long in the tooth. Over time, you'll be spending more money on electricity due to the inefficiency of the CPU not to mention you'll probably peg the CPU easily depending on what you are doing.

If it were me personally... I'd rather buy a used 1080 for a full $500 and buy a brand new CPU and do a fresh build. Or for that matter, just swallow $800 and get a 3060Ti from a scalper if $500 for a 1080 is your reference point. The 3060Ti is noticeably more powerful than a 1080, can do Ray Tracing, and also far more energy efficient as well. With an AMD CPU, you can run a 3060 Ti on a 500W PSU no problem. I'm running dual GPUs on a 600W PSU this very moment and I've never even pulled 500W from the wall even during a stress test.
Hey man can you help me build a budget pc. Just want something to game on occasionally and do some work from home stuff.

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