expiredChityWok posted Jan 11, 2022 05:52 AM
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expiredChityWok posted Jan 11, 2022 05:52 AM
Gibson Les Paul Deluxe '70s Electric Guitar (Cherry Sunburst)
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Give it six months. More likely a year. Right now, EVERYTHING music .. pedals, amps, guitars ... everything is OVER .. THE .. RAINBOW expensive.
In addition, and keep in mind I play Gibson and Martin and nothing else, but Gibson .. has .. uh .. LOST THEIR MINDS. The CEO there wants to re-position the company as the Tesla or Maserati of guitars or something.
That ain't rock and roll. That's Doc Rock. Doctors who enjoy playing on the weekend.
Furthermore, please let me say this in the strongest possible terms I can express .. Gibson Ain't What She Used To Be. Get you an OLD Gibson .. and by old .. I mean .. Pre-1990.
Otherwise, the best "slickdeal" you can get on a Gibson guitar is ..
.. to buy an Epiphone.
I own no Epiphones so I do not have a dog in the fight. I own NINE Gibson guitars and probably .. oh, 70 Gibsons over 45 years.
I don't lay my hands across a Gibson today if it is new. It makes me want to cry. Something so excellent, so beautiful ... is gone.
Get an old one, hold on to it, sell it for twice what you paid in five years.
I have no alternative electric guitar I could point you to at this time. They are all junk from China and Malaysia and, God forbid, Korea. If you must buy a new electric, Epiphone is as close to an old Gibson as you are probably going to get.
But still, they feel cheap and they do not have the Gibson sound because of the pickups.
The greatest guitar I ever played in my life is a 1984 Gibson Flying V Designer Series. It hangs on the wall right there next to my Martins.
I've owned 13 Gibson Flying V's in my life.
No other guitar is even close.
That's my wisdom of 45 years of playing guitar professionally I can pass along.
I never post. I said this because I have vast and extensive knowledge on the subject matter.
And my opinion is the general consensus of all advanced guitar players today. All of them.
Right now is a pandemic and everybody is cooped up inside and prices are insane. INSANE.
Don't waste your money.
Epiphones are not in the same league, Frets for the most part are poorly done and rarely level, electrics and most pickups are subpar. Bodies and necks having multiple pieces (like 5 across the body) of wood glued together!! Ya do pay for what ya get. For the price not bad, but to compare against a Gibson, not even close. Have both brands and repair and set up all makes for people.
Also pre 1980, there was some horrid Gibson's made back then, pancake bodies, maple necks, was similar to the early 2000's but not near as bad. However they did do some Great ones in the era too. Don't get me wrong just pointing out not everything was perfect back in the day. Perhaps ya should (with open mind) go play a few of the new ones.
Not sure if you've ever checked out or played the Heritage Guitars? The H-150 is superior to the Gibson (today vs today). For those that don't know the Heritage story check it out on Youtube. Original Gibson Facility in Kalamazoo that a bunch of employees (some top level ones) didn't want to move to Memphis when Gibson changed manufacturing locations. They purchased the Plant and all the equipment and started their own version of Gibson Guitars. They make them still the old ways on the same equipment the famous 58-59-60 Les Paul's were done. Quality is Excellent and you get features on the H-150 (Les Paul equivalent) that are only available on the LP' Custom shop models, like long neck tenon, one piece (not 2) mahogany back etc.
Cheers
For anyone looking for one of these, is a great price.
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Wait
Give it six months. More likely a year. Right now, EVERYTHING music .. pedals, amps, guitars ... everything is OVER .. THE .. RAINBOW expensive.
In addition, and keep in mind I play Gibson and Martin and nothing else, but Gibson .. has .. uh .. LOST THEIR MINDS. The CEO there wants to re-position the company as the Tesla or Maserati of guitars or something.
That ain't rock and roll. That's Doc Rock. Doctors who enjoy playing on the weekend.
Furthermore, please let me say this in the strongest possible terms I can express .. Gibson Ain't What She Used To Be. Get you an OLD Gibson .. and by old .. I mean .. Pre-1990.
Otherwise, the best "slickdeal" you can get on a Gibson guitar is ..
.. to buy an Epiphone.
I own no Epiphones so I do not have a dog in the fight. I own NINE Gibson guitars and probably .. oh, 70 Gibsons over 45 years.
I don't lay my hands across a Gibson today if it is new. It makes me want to cry. Something so excellent, so beautiful ... is gone.
Get an old one, hold on to it, sell it for twice what you paid in five years.
I have no alternative electric guitar I could point you to at this time. They are all junk from China and Malaysia and, God forbid, Korea. If you must buy a new electric, Epiphone is as close to an old Gibson as you are probably going to get.
But still, they feel cheap and they do not have the Gibson sound because of the pickups.
The greatest guitar I ever played in my life is a 1984 Gibson Flying V Designer Series. It hangs on the wall right there next to my Martins.
I've owned 13 Gibson Flying V's in my life.
No other guitar is even close.
That's my wisdom of 45 years of playing guitar professionally I can pass along.
I never post. I said this because I have vast and extensive knowledge on the subject matter.
And my opinion is the general consensus of all advanced guitar players today. All of them.
Right now is a pandemic and everybody is cooped up inside and prices are insane. INSANE.
Don't waste your money.
Then later I bought a 2001 Standard Plus Cherryburst. Equally as playable and beautiful sounding.
Also owned a garbage 1998 Standard. And a garbage 1978 Custom, a 1981 Custom, a 1985 Standard, a 2005 Standard. Some were bad, some were eh some great.
Look for the right one then expect to pay $60 for an experienced luthier or tech to "set it up". They should look at fret levels, action, the cut of the nut among other things. Only after a good setup, you will really know how they play.
Come on Musicians Friend - offer this price on the goldtop and I might jump!
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What that dude said. He's dead on. I was lead guitar in a band that put out two internationally released albums, when that actually meant something to have a record deal .. and it was stocked and for sale at K-Mart at the time .. if that gives you any time frame .. (don't be impressed. We FLOPPED. I tried to cross Judas Priest with The Carpenters)
.. but THE BEST GUITAR SOUND I ever got on a record was .. playing a guitar synthesizer .. through a synth set on "Guitar". I listen to that today and I was playing a polka-dotted Gibson V (wanna guess who my hero is?) and MAN it sounded dead on like a Ricky 12. I mean .. "Ticket to Ride" The Byrds, Tom Petty Rickenbacker. PERFECT. So ... what that last guy said is more and more true everyday.
In addition, don't just pass over the fact that you guys have more INFORMATION than we used to have. To this day I play a Gibson Flying V through a JCM 800 with two 4x12s loaded with Greenbacks. And like I told both my sons .. a Marshall is THE WORST sounding amplifier in the world AND the best sounding amplifier in the world. I stood on stage after stage month after month on two tours that crossed oceans .. and I stood 8-10 feet in front of that JCM. On 11. Because .. that's when a Marshall sounds great. No, a power brake doesn't work. You don't get the texture. It's night and day. Just buy a Kustom amp from Sears, sounds the same. Well, there ya go, dated myself again. But we DID NOT REALLY KNOW what that was going to do to our hearing when you are my age. My wife sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher. I nod.
She flashes the lights to get me to stop sometimes because .. even a shrieking mad woman cannot be louder than a JCM 800. I kinda like that, it's a nice side effect. But when she does, she usually says something like, :Look, I don't mind you playing. I knew what I was getting in to when I met you backstage 20 years ago. But Dave .. the GUTTERS ON THE HOUSE ARE SWAYING BACK AND FORTH and people for half a mile are walking out to the street to see where that tornadic volume is emanating from. There's times, honey, where the ceiling cracks and it looks like fairy dust in the dining room when the sun is shining when you play. Seriously, if you don't stop, the entire friggin' house is going TO FALL UPON YOUR HEAD.
"Huh?"
So, what the poster said above, learn it, know it, it's true. 90% of all guitar playing I've ever done is over 100 decibels because .. a Marshall is AWFUL when it's at four .. which is so loud you do not have to spend money on pest control. Because even the bugs are like "Oh, screw this racket, man" and infest the neighbors. I'm just trying to keep the house bug-free .. it has nothing to do with the solo from "Mr. Crowley". It's just roaches cannot deal with anything from Randy's first album.
There so many posters here with so much wisdom. I just sat and read the thread and went "Yup" "Yup" "He's right too." And for the guy who has the '78 Custom with The Twin .. seriously .. I have an nVidia RTX 3090 and a 34" curved 144hz 1440p Ultrawide monitor I'll trade for that. It only runs the latest Forza Horizon at 205 frames per second with every setting switched to: Galactic Plaid Maxxed. It's so fast, big, and wrapped around your peripheral vision, you get nauseous.
Burstbuckers .. OMG ... look, man .. there is only *ONE* pickup that exists on the planet Earth .. all others are pale imitations and people pray to God that he will grant the ones left to them:
Tim Shaw-era DIRTY FINGERS
I drive Ferrari. I drink Heineken. And I play Shaw-era Dirty Fingers.
If you do not, I'm so sorry for you.
I hope you get a chance to before you die.
If you notice guitar collectors, they'll actually ask about weight on different vintage guitars. Stores like Sweetwater will post the weight and a photo of each guitar they have in stock.
If you notice guitar collectors, they'll actually ask about weight on different vintage guitars. Stores like Sweetwater will post the weight and a photo of each guitar they have in stock.
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