Model: Linksys - Atlas Pro AX5300 Wi-Fi 6 System - 3-pack
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The answer always is anything but Netgear consumer mesh system. Read their forums.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
Only buy dual band mesh if your house is wired for ethernet already. Otherwise buy a tri-band mesh.
This is only a dual-band system, where the Orbi at Costco is tri-band. Plus the easy returns at Costco if it doesn't work out for you.
I have the Linksys MX8400C from Costco and while it started out great, firmware updates seem to cause more problems than they fix, so I'm hesitant to recommend Linksys. That said, plenty of people complain about Orbi too.
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This right here, if your house doesn't have Ethernet setup, you need a Tri-Band setup for mesh. The third band dedicated to direct connection between routers provides a stable connection. I have a gigabit fiber connection at home and triband setup is the only one that helps with second 5GHz dedicated for wireless back haul to utilize full gigabit speeds.
That being said I'm using Asus ZenWifi mesh router setup.
I did not realize this . I'm glad I purchased tri band system just by luck . I can't imagine why they make dual band systems . I don't think that most people have Ethernet connection on every floor , do they ? I have Ethernet on only two floors of three level home.
A person below explains that all Ethernet cables are not equal . He says older Ethernet cables are limited to 100 mpbs, so people should take that into account . I have no idea how one can determine what sort of cable is installed in their home ! Technology and speed increases are great , but it's difficult to keep up and understand everything. I just buy things and install them when they have positive ratings . It appears that the same device can be great in one home and suck in another , even though it's working proper in both homes . Who would guess that it could be caused by older Ethernet cable ? How many people realize that they should use tri band mesh system unless they have modern Ethernet cable connection for each mesh station?
Last edited by deal2lover January 23, 2022 at 08:10 AM.
Eh, I would avoid this. WiFi 6 is going to be the forgotten middle child. Offers hardly any improvement from 5. WiFi 6E on the other hand is a gamechanger and is worth investing in now.
Eh, I would avoid this. WiFi 6 is going to be the forgotten middle child. Offers hardly any improvement from 5. WiFi 6E on the other hand is a gamechanger and is worth investing in now.
6E Wifi Routers seem really expensive in comparison to 6 Wifi router like this one. Maybe 6E router is worth the extra cost , but it's not an Apple to Apple comparison in my opinion .
I did not realize this . I'm glad I purchased tri band system just by luck . I can't imagine why they make dual band systems . I don't think that most people have Ethernet connection on every floor , do they ? I have Ethernet on only two floors of three level home.
I did not either, but I might bite on this then. I made a point to put ethernet in every room in my house, but here we are. Most devices are wireless.
I have the last gen velop. I found it to be garbage, constantly needing resets.
Then I did some debug and found that the routing was the issue, so I grabbed an ER-X and put the velop into bridge mode. Everything has been cake since then, these are great access points but terrible routers.
Eh, I would avoid this. WiFi 6 is going to be the forgotten middle child. Offers hardly any improvement from 5. WiFi 6E on the other hand is a gamechanger and is worth investing in now.
How about getting a WiFi 5 system? Unless folks have a lot of WiFi 6 devices AND a very high internet speed (600Mbps and up), I think WiFi 6 would be under-utilized.
In the case of very few WiFi 6 devices AND internet speed of less than 600Mbps, I think WiFi 5 (AC networking) still works well for most folks.
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01-21-2022 at 07:16 PM.
Amazing how uneducated people here are when it comes to triband and dual band. The average US household last I checked averaged around 125Mbps internet. The standard dualband mesh system from the furthest satilite from a good brand can push around 400Mbps, which well exceeds any average home requirements. At the routers they still get around 800Mbps though which is enough even for the top 10% of home users who are on over 500Mbps ISP packages. Yes if your getting fiber at your house and want to maximize the full 1Gbps you want something better but even 90% of all triband will not come close as they max out between 800-900Mbps. Thats with the exception of two current wifi 6 mesh systems the TP-LINK AX5700 and the bigger brother with the extra antenna the X90 they both wirelessly can push around 1.4Gbps no backhaul needed and yes they are triband. Outside of that only one wifi 6E mesh currently can push that. There are some stand a lone routers that can do that also.
This router mesh set for this price is a pass, its extremely slow no matter how you hook it up, one of the slowest of all the mesh kits out there currently. There are better alternatives, like the TP-LINK Triband X68 if you want a 3 pack or like I mentioned earlier the AX5700 from the same brand but a 2 pack.
Also a lot of people who dont know anything about Wifi6E here most of the time when your getting a new wifi 6E router you will be using WIFI 6 and not 6E unless your always in the same room as your router. The frequency is extremely short and does not do well with walls or obstructions, so Wifi 6E is a bust for almost everyone that does not sit right next to their router or is always in the same room. Not even the Wifi 6E mesh kits that currently came out use the 6E for backhaul cause its just not possible so they revert to Wifi 6.
So please enough with the Wifi 6E cause too many of you are way uneducated about it.
The answer always is anything but Netgear consumer mesh system. Read their forums.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
Linksys is much worse. They literally sent out an update that limited the amount of wifi devices that can connect to the original Linksys Velop. That is so they can allocate half the bandwidth to push their paid-for services.
That left many of us downgrading the firmware and turning off updates completely or limiting the amount of wifi devices on our systems.
At least Netgear's issues stem from incompetence, not greed. Look up the issues with Linksys.
Last edited by distung January 21, 2022 at 08:25 PM.
Linksys is much worse. They literally sent out an update that limited the amount of wifi devices they can connect to the original Linksys Velop. That is so they can allocate half the bandwidth to push their paid-for services.
That left many of us downgrading the firmware and turning off updates completely or limiting the amount of wifi devices on our systems.
At least Netgear's issues stem from incompetence, not greed. Look up the issues with Linksys.
Oh boy, I'm losing all hope with humanity now. No manufacturers can be trusted now apparently. What are they thinking when they pull shit like that? Consumers will be over the moon for the blessings they are implementing?
Last edited by Dyscalculic January 22, 2022 at 06:02 AM.
The answer always is anything but Netgear consumer mesh system. Read their forums.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
SNBforums is full of happy folks running Voxel on Orbi's. But yeah if you expect the stock Netgear firmware/experience to be anything better than a dumpster fire you're probably going to be disappointed.
The answer always is anything but Netgear consumer mesh system. Read their forums.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
I did read the forums and decided to give the Orbi a shot knowing that I could return them.
Orbi had a higher 4.7 satisfaction rating vs most other 3 unit mesh systems that range from 4.2 to 4.6 (Atlas is 4.3) - I guess you can't please everybody.
Based on personal experience, I love them. Easy setup. Range, stability, and speed have all been phenomenal based on my personal experience with 3 units and wired backhaul.
I never had the need to use their support.
If you're considering Orbi, they are definitely worth a try. Make your own decision.
Begging for reps? Seriously?
Last edited by nolenski January 22, 2022 at 09:40 AM.
I am a corporate IT Director and have been using the velop mesh at home for six years, having upgraded to the Wifi6 last year, and I use the same models to put in small offices with lower capacity needs. They work very well for use cases where are you don't need more than the single SSID they offer (plus a guest network) and you can wire them up using wireless backhaul. I have about 120 wireless devices calling home on my home Network any given time, and my four node set up is gloriously stable.
I have tried the older Google mesh systems as well as Orbi. I can say without reservation that I prefer the velop mesh to either of those.
The biggest drawback I see with these is the single SSID limitation and that they don't support VLAN tagging. I get around that by using a Firewalla Gold as my router and using smart switching to manage device groups. This is only really a drawback if these are things that are important to you and you don't know how to go about managing around it.
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I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
I have the Linksys MX8400C from Costco and while it started out great, firmware updates seem to cause more problems than they fix, so I'm hesitant to recommend Linksys. That said, plenty of people complain about Orbi too.
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That being said I'm using Asus ZenWifi mesh router setup.
I did not realize this . I'm glad I purchased tri band system just by luck . I can't imagine why they make dual band systems . I don't think that most people have Ethernet connection on every floor , do they ? I have Ethernet on only two floors of three level home.
A person below explains that all Ethernet cables are not equal . He says older Ethernet cables are limited to 100 mpbs, so people should take that into account . I have no idea how one can determine what sort of cable is installed in their home ! Technology and speed increases are great , but it's difficult to keep up and understand everything. I just buy things and install them when they have positive ratings . It appears that the same device can be great in one home and suck in another , even though it's working proper in both homes . Who would guess that it could be caused by older Ethernet cable ? How many people realize that they should use tri band mesh system unless they have modern Ethernet cable connection for each mesh station?
6E Wifi Routers seem really expensive in comparison to 6 Wifi router like this one. Maybe 6E router is worth the extra cost , but it's not an Apple to Apple comparison in my opinion .
Then I did some debug and found that the routing was the issue, so I grabbed an ER-X and put the velop into bridge mode. Everything has been cake since then, these are great access points but terrible routers.
In the case of very few WiFi 6 devices AND internet speed of less than 600Mbps, I think WiFi 5 (AC networking) still works well for most folks.
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This router mesh set for this price is a pass, its extremely slow no matter how you hook it up, one of the slowest of all the mesh kits out there currently. There are better alternatives, like the TP-LINK Triband X68 if you want a 3 pack or like I mentioned earlier the AX5700 from the same brand but a 2 pack.
Also a lot of people who dont know anything about Wifi6E here most of the time when your getting a new wifi 6E router you will be using WIFI 6 and not 6E unless your always in the same room as your router. The frequency is extremely short and does not do well with walls or obstructions, so Wifi 6E is a bust for almost everyone that does not sit right next to their router or is always in the same room. Not even the Wifi 6E mesh kits that currently came out use the 6E for backhaul cause its just not possible so they revert to Wifi 6.
So please enough with the Wifi 6E cause too many of you are way uneducated about it.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
Linksys is much worse. They literally sent out an update that limited the amount of wifi devices that can connect to the original Linksys Velop. That is so they can allocate half the bandwidth to push their paid-for services.
That left many of us downgrading the firmware and turning off updates completely or limiting the amount of wifi devices on our systems.
At least Netgear's issues stem from incompetence, not greed. Look up the issues with Linksys.
That left many of us downgrading the firmware and turning off updates completely or limiting the amount of wifi devices on our systems.
At least Netgear's issues stem from incompetence, not greed. Look up the issues with Linksys.
Oh boy, I'm losing all hope with humanity now. No manufacturers can be trusted now apparently. What are they thinking when they pull shit like that? Consumers will be over the moon for the blessings they are implementing?
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
I did read the forums and decided to give the Orbi a shot knowing that I could return them.
Orbi had a higher 4.7 satisfaction rating vs most other 3 unit mesh systems that range from 4.2 to 4.6 (Atlas is 4.3) - I guess you can't please everybody.
Based on personal experience, I love them. Easy setup. Range, stability, and speed have all been phenomenal based on my personal experience with 3 units and wired backhaul.
I never had the need to use their support.
If you're considering Orbi, they are definitely worth a try. Make your own decision.
Begging for reps? Seriously?
I love Netgear and I think they are the best consumer grade networking products company by far.
But they dropped the ball big time in Orbis firmware updates and asinine support, or lack thereof.
Seriously, read their forums. Thank me later. Rep me now.
Agree 100% based on personal experience. Orbi was returned within 3 days.
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I have tried the older Google mesh systems as well as Orbi. I can say without reservation that I prefer the velop mesh to either of those.
The biggest drawback I see with these is the single SSID limitation and that they don't support VLAN tagging. I get around that by using a Firewalla Gold as my router and using smart switching to manage device groups. This is only really a drawback if these are things that are important to you and you don't know how to go about managing around it.