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This is the first time we've seen this unit available at this direct price drop (w/o gift cards attached to the deal/etc.); this model typically hovers above $2200+
This product is highly reviewed as an upper-mid range TV through Sony's 2021 lineup
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Model: Sony X91J 85” Class 4K HDR Full Array LED With Google TV KD85X91J
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here[rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
Costco still sells Sony. Was gonna post Costco's version of this, but they're still doing their Monday update. The 85X91CJ will be this same $1999.99... as listed on the Costco homepage. https://www.costco.com/
Took the plunge and also bought from Costco. Had to stick to my $2k budget and this ticked a lot of what I was looking for. I don't game so no worries on VRR. I really wanted the LG C1 77 or the Sony A80J 77 but couldn't get the wife to bite on the extra almost $1k. Didn't really need a size this big but for price, why not. I saw this playing at Costco next to an A80J 77 and you can definitely notice the huge difference in size. The image on the Sony was much better of course but for the price on this 85, I'm not complaining. Can't wait to setup with my Sonos Arc complete system.
FYSA, I did the exact same thing on my 90CH last year and 2 weeks rolled by and I heard nothing. I called customer service and they had no record of the TWO tickets I submitted. I received my price adjustment from the rep on the phone. If more than a few days go by I would advise to call customer service.
Thanks for the info, because it's been about 24 hours and haven't heard anything back from the two tickets I submitted either. Will call today.
Edit: Made the call, it's processed now. Was only an 8 min phone call.
Last edited by BahamutEOS March 1, 2022 at 10:51 AM.
Has Sony worked out 4K at 120fps as well as VRR and not sure if there were other features as well yet with the PS5? Last time I was looking at these tvs was in fall 2020 and there were issues firmware if I remember correctly.
Has Sony worked out 4K at 120fps as well as VRR and not sure if there were other features as well yet with the PS5? Last time I was looking at these tvs was in fall 2020 and there were issues firmware if I remember correctly.
See post #48 for details and the link to the review of the screen with a lot of good data.
Bottom line, 4K at 120fps with HDR is good. VRR is non-functional at this time and still awaiting firmware update.
Any suggestions for a good wall mount for this TV?
Nothing in particular I can link right now but the 85in set is around 100lbs. At that weight and size you definitely don't want to go cheap on a mount. I luckily had a 1st generation wall mount built for absurdly heavy plasma screens. It's super thick and weighs like 20lbs or so by itself.
Just be sure you measure your studs ON CENTER, CLEAN and use lag screws rated for at least 100lbs each. I've seen screws rated for something that my eyes could clearly tell weren't appropriate. It's not worth the sweat of watching this monstrosity suspend outward from a wall and wondering how it doesn't fall, not to mention the death threat it poses to small children.
I bought a 65" x900h on BF 2020, my budget was $1k. I love the TV but wish I had gone bigger. Now this... I could afford the $2k now but hard to justify when I just bought the other one.
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Nothing in particular I can link right now but the 85in set is around 100lbs. At that weight and size you definitely don't want to go cheap on a mount. I luckily had a 1st generation wall mount built for absurdly heavy plasma screens. It's super thick and weighs like 20lbs or so by itself.
Just be sure you measure your studs ON CENTER, CLEAN and use lag screws rated for at least 100lbs each. I've seen screws rated for something that my eyes could clearly tell weren't appropriate. It's not worth the sweat of watching this monstrosity suspend outward from a wall and wondering how it doesn't fall, not to mention the death threat it poses to small children.
85in and 100lbs only?! what kind of quality cheap tv is this?! explains why it has paltry 40 dimming zones at least
this only has 40 dimming zones on a giant 85in... WTF?!
- Sony 75in X940E has 256zones, shows how downgrade spiral this went
and this has the cheapest 4K HDR processor to work an 85in panel (not extreme, ultimate or XR)- double WTF?!
and doesn't have VRR so over-promise, under deliver- TRIPLE WTF!!
/PASS!!!!!
Its also doesn't have the flaw the Sony X940E had with motion
According to rtings.com..the X930E and Z9D were both better sets than the X940E
Its also doesn't have the flaw the Sony X940E had with motion
According to rtings.com..the X930E and Z9D were both better sets than the X940E
what flaw with motion?
well no shit sherlock, Z9D is the most expensive set with 600zones, you gaw damn right it better be a better set - thanks captain obvious
ok i understand X930e is numerically lowers than X940e (doh) but explain how a edge lit backlight was a better set than a local dimming-256 zones direct lit tv with 1184nit HDR brightness (x940e)?
I compared with naked eye at Costco and BB. At first glance, QN85 almost seemed like an OLED and I didn't get the same feeling with X91J. TBH, I never owned a Sony and was finding reasons to get one. If X91J had XR processor, I probably would've. My budget is 2K and hoping QN85 will drop to $2,200 some point this year.
My Costco had the QN85 on and end cap with the LG C1 OLED on the next end cap over. You could stand in the middle of them and compare side by side. The QN85 looked identical to the OLED, inky dark blacks, amazing picture quality and fine detail. The QN85 is significantly brighter than the C1, it also does not have the glass/mirror reflection that the OLEDs have and very noticeable from viewing off angle. I was there talking to the guy that works that department and a brand new QN85 was being put back into stock (QN75QN85DAFXZA) because a member bought it, took it home and wife made him return it (never opened the box). I took that TV to check out and it rang up $1600 with included Allstate warranty. Scored an amazing deal and just happened to be at the right place at the right time. This TV is amazing!
this only has 40 dimming zones on a giant 85in... WTF?!
- Sony 75in X940E has 256zones, shows how downgrade spiral this went
and this has the cheapest 4K HDR processor to work an 85in panel (not extreme, ultimate or XR)- double WTF?!
and doesn't have VRR so over-promise, under deliver- TRIPLE WTF!!
/PASS!!!!!
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well no shit sherlock, Z9D is the most expensive set with 600zones, you gaw damn right it better be a better set - thanks captain obvious
ok i understand X930e is numerically lowers than X940e (doh) but explain how a edge lit backlight was a better set than a local dimming-256 zones direct lit tv with 1184nit HDR brightness (x940e)?
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here [rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
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Edit: Made the call, it's processed now. Was only an 8 min phone call.
Bottom line, 4K at 120fps with HDR is good. VRR is non-functional at this time and still awaiting firmware update.
Just be sure you measure your studs ON CENTER, CLEAN and use lag screws rated for at least 100lbs each. I've seen screws rated for something that my eyes could clearly tell weren't appropriate. It's not worth the sweat of watching this monstrosity suspend outward from a wall and wondering how it doesn't fall, not to mention the death threat it poses to small children.
I bought a 65" x900h on BF 2020, my budget was $1k. I love the TV but wish I had gone bigger. Now this... I could afford the $2k now but hard to justify when I just bought the other one.
Damn you, slickdeals!
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Just be sure you measure your studs ON CENTER, CLEAN and use lag screws rated for at least 100lbs each. I've seen screws rated for something that my eyes could clearly tell weren't appropriate. It's not worth the sweat of watching this monstrosity suspend outward from a wall and wondering how it doesn't fall, not to mention the death threat it poses to small children.
Poor man's premium tv
- Sony 75in X940E has 256zones, shows how downgrade spiral this went
and this has the cheapest 4K HDR processor to work an 85in panel (not extreme, ultimate or XR)- double WTF?!
and doesn't have VRR so over-promise, under deliver- TRIPLE WTF!!
/PASS!!!!!
According to rtings.com..the X930E and Z9D were both better sets than the X940E
According to rtings.com..the X930E and Z9D were both better sets than the X940E
well no shit sherlock, Z9D is the most expensive set with 600zones, you gaw damn right it better be a better set - thanks captain obvious
ok i understand X930e is numerically lowers than X940e (doh) but explain how a edge lit backlight was a better set than a local dimming-256 zones direct lit tv with 1184nit HDR brightness (x940e)?
- Sony 75in X940E has 256zones, shows how downgrade spiral this went
and this has the cheapest 4K HDR processor to work an 85in panel (not extreme, ultimate or XR)- double WTF?!
and doesn't have VRR so over-promise, under deliver- TRIPLE WTF!!
/PASS!!!!!
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from this review and several other professional reviews
"Fast moving objects often have visible trails"
ok i understand X930e is numerically lowers than X940e (doh) but explain how a edge lit backlight was a better set than a local dimming-256 zones direct lit tv with 1184nit HDR brightness (x940e)?
The motion issues with the X940E were not cared for by rtings...but they also tested the X930E to be both brighter than the X940E in SDR and HDR
And yes...the Z9D is most certainly a better Tv hands down than the X940E
I own both the X930E and the Z9D
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