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T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan: Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot

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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

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  • About this deal:
    • This deal does require verification of your business (example, an EIN number). Check with your local store to see what they require for verification.
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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This deal does require verification of your business (example, an EIN number). Check with your local store to see what they require for verification.
    • See forum thread for deal discussion and ideas.

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Papote3
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Just an FYI if you're just getting this for the "free" tablet. The tablet is a Galaxy A7 lite which only costs $200 ($129 on Amazon)

They will still lock you to a 2 year EIP even if it's free (They'll make a monthly credit to cover the tablet EIP)

Meaning you'd end up paying $10 for 2 years ($240) for a $129 tablet.

So if you're only doing it for the tablet then it's not worth it
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Some people don't live in a house.
needgeech
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Not on the "free" tablet, lol. In all seriousness, don't choose the plan with TE in the title as that one is tax exclusive (you have 2 choices)

soc code ZB10HSTI is the one you want.

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coloradoman_in_socalJan 02, 2023 10:12 PM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
Isnt it just video throttling rather than using hotspot data? But not sure why Apple TV apps are not throttling

Sorry - is Fast.com checking general download speed or does it check video download speed?

Fast.com is operated by Netflix and is showing you your video streaming speed. Based on that and the fact that I'm seeing 6-7 Mbps only I shouldn't be able to stream 4K content except when using HS data
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ScottoDonoJan 02, 2023 10:15 PM
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Quote from coloradoman_in_socal :
Fast.com is operated by Netflix and is showing you your video streaming speed
Yeah, so how to overcome Netflix throttling because I read a Reddit post where Netflix does not work with WARP
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Yeah, so how to overcome Netflix throttling because I read a Reddit post where Netflix does not work with WARP
It's easy, I connect to my VPN and then get full speeds on everything streaming.
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I am currently running 3.0.0.4.385_20490-g57b06ea Asus stock

Right now I am using 192.168.2.1 as my login , will that change if I mess with the firmware or change DNS?
New DD-WRT will default to the stock FW login. All previous settings will be wiped out once you install DD-WRT on top of the stock FW. I also reset the stock FW to factory default prior to the flash to make sure that I can still login to the router via LAN connection. Avoid flashing via WiFi.
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coloradoman_in_socalJan 03, 2023 12:02 AM
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Quote from fbueller :
Then - no idea.
Data points for RTAC68U on stock Asus FW:

In router mode, regardless of TTL spoof feature enabled/disabled, Fast.com between 6-7 Mbps
In AP mode Fast.com yields the full speed that Speedtest also gets

What gives?
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Quote from coloradoman_in_socal :
Data points for RTAC68U on stock Asus FW:

In router mode, regardless of TTL spoof feature enabled/disabled, Fast.com between 6-7 Mbps
In AP mode Fast.com yields the full speed that Speedtest also gets

What gives?
Router is a hub that sets up a local area network. Access point is a sub system of the local area network (in this case, the T Mo unit is the router connected to the access point Asus via LAN cable).
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coloradoman_in_socalJan 03, 2023 12:22 AM
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Quote from E4300 :
Router is a hub that sets up a local area network. Access point is a sub system of the local area network (in this case, the T Mo unit is the router connected to the access point Asus via LAN cable).
Yes, very familiar with that. It doesn't explain the difference in Fast.com speeds though even when Spoof TTL feature is disabled.

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Quote from coloradoman_in_socal :
Yes, very familiar with that. It doesn't explain the difference in Fast.com speeds though even when Spoof TTL feature is disabled.
Looks like there is no throttling if the T Mo unit is used as the primary router.
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coloradoman_in_socalJan 03, 2023 12:31 AM
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Looks like there is no throttling if the T Mo unit is used as the primary router.
No way Smilie

But in all seriousness, I just want to know why, that's all. Several people stated that Asus stock FW shouldn't change the TTL value, and yet it does and even so when the feature is disabled.
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Quote from coloradoman_in_socal :
No way [img]https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

But in all seriousness, I just want to know why, that's all. Several people stated that Asus stock FW shouldn't change the TTL value, and yet it does and even so when the feature is disabled.
Manually enter TTL value 65, 66, or 68 on Asus. It's possible that spoof TTL ON/OFF switch is not effective in router mode with that particular T Mo unit.

The main objective with spoof TTL is to bypass the ISP's "HOTSPOT" data cap. Altering the TTL value should not limit the transfer speed of a particular website to 7Mbps unless the ISP throttle the speed of that website if the T Mo unit is not operating as the primary router.
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coloradoman_in_socalJan 03, 2023 01:00 AM
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Quote from E4300 :
Manually enter TTL value 65, 66, or 68 on Asus. It's possible that spoof TTL ON/OFF switch is not effective in router mode with that particular T Mo unit.

The main objective with spoof TTL is to bypass the ISP's "HOTSPOT" data cap. Altering the TTL value should not limit the transfer speed of a particular website to 7Mbps unless the ISP throttle the speed of that website if the T Mo unit is not operating as the primary router.
I appreciate the effort but you're really not answering my question here. Perhaps this will make things a little clearer.

Fast.com is operated by Netflix and shows your video streaming speed. If the speed shown is the same as the speed you get on Speedtest, your video streaming is not throttled. If the speed is lower, it is throttled. So far pretty clear.

Now, when TMO detects and delivers a video stream to you, it does that in one of two ways. One, they recognize that you're on a mobile device (tablet, phone) and sends you the stream at the throttled speed. Why? Because your device has unlimited data and they're trying to limit the usage this way. Two, they recognize that you're tethering your data (via the TTL value of your IP packets) and DON'T throttle your video data. Why? Because you only have a certain data allotment and will eventually run out of it. Their damage is very limited.

When you run Fast.com it'll indicate to you whether TMO thinks you're tethering (i.e., full speed) or that you are on a mobile device (throttled speed). Based on this, I am curious why my router seems to be modifying the TTL value of my IP packets even when the feature is disabled.

And to top this issue off, I want to know why on earth my Apple TV that is connected to my router (when in router mode) can stream 4K content flawlessly even though Fast.com is showing throttled speeds.

I hope this clears up the question that I asked.
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Quote from coloradoman_in_socal :
I appreciate the effort but you're really not answering my question here. Perhaps this will make things a little clearer.

Fast.com is operated by Netflix and shows your video streaming speed. If the speed shown is the same as the speed you get on Speedtest, your video streaming is not throttled. If the speed is lower, it is throttled. So far pretty clear.

Now, when TMO detects and delivers a video stream to you, it does that in one of two ways. One, they recognize that you're on a mobile device (tablet, phone) and sends you the stream at the throttled speed. Why? Because your device has unlimited data and they're trying to limit the usage this way. Two, they recognize that you're tethering your data (via the TTL value of your IP packets) and DON'T throttle your video data. Why? Because you only have a certain data allotment and will eventually run out of it. Their damage is very limited.

When you run Fast.com it'll indicate to you whether TMO thinks you're tethering (i.e., full speed) or that you are on a mobile device (throttled speed). Based on this, I am curious why my router seems to be modifying the TTL value of my IP packets even when the feature is disabled.

And to top this issue off, I want to know why on earth my Apple TV that is connected to my router (when in router mode) can stream 4K content flawlessly even though Fast.com is showing throttled speeds.

I hope this clears up the question that I asked.
coloradoman_in_socalI appreciate the effort but you're really not answering my question here. Perhaps this will make things a little clearer.

Fast.com is operated by Netflix and shows your video streaming speed. If the speed shown is the same as the speed you get on Speedtest, your video streaming is not throttled. If the speed is lower, it is throttled. So far pretty clear.

Now, when TMO detects and delivers a video stream to you, it does that in one of two ways. One, they recognize that you're on a mobile device (tablet, phone) and sends you the stream at the throttled speed. Why? Because your device has unlimited data and they're trying to limit the usage this way. Two, they recognize that you're tethering your data (via the TTL value of your IP packets) and DON'T throttle your video data. Why? Because you only have a certain data allotment and will eventually run out of it. Their damage is very limited.

When you run Fast.com it'll indicate to you whether TMO thinks you're tethering (i.e., full speed) or that you are on a mobile device (throttled speed). Based on this, I am curious why my router seems to be modifying the TTL value of my IP packets even when the feature is disabled.

And to top this issue off, I want to know why on earth my Apple TV that is connected to my router (when in router mode) can stream 4K content flawlessly even though Fast.com is showing throttled speeds.

I hope this clears up the question that I asked.
You are pulling 4K data (25Mbps) from the router in router mode. Therefore, fast.com is not a good metric to check for throttle data. I personally use a well-seeded torrent file to check for data throttling. The actual throughput is displayed in real time. If I can get +300Mbps download via torrent, then the ISP is selectively blocking the Netflix server for some reason, other than excessive bandwidth usage.
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coloradoman_in_socalJan 03, 2023 01:52 AM
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Quote from E4300 :
You are pulling 4K data (25Mbps) from the router in router mode.
Yes. From Netflix. Which is the same as Fast.com

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Quote from fbueller :
You need to directly set TTL also, not just spoof checkbox. I think I set mine to 68 or 69, but I can't check it right now.
How do I directly modify TTL?
What 3rd party firmware for Asus ax86u be able to do that?
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Quote from accounted :
How do I directly modify TTL?
What 3rd party firmware for Asus ax86u be able to do that?
Thank you!
Need to install DD-WRT FW on top of the stock Asus FW to manually enter the TTL value.

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