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T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan: Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot

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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

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  • About this deal:
    • This deal does require verification of your business (example, an EIN number). Check with your local store to see what they require for verification.
    • See forum thread for deal discussion and ideas.

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Papote3
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Just an FYI if you're just getting this for the "free" tablet. The tablet is a Galaxy A7 lite which only costs $200 ($129 on Amazon)

They will still lock you to a 2 year EIP even if it's free (They'll make a monthly credit to cover the tablet EIP)

Meaning you'd end up paying $10 for 2 years ($240) for a $129 tablet.

So if you're only doing it for the tablet then it's not worth it
MusicShark
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Some people don't live in a house.
needgeech
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Not on the "free" tablet, lol. In all seriousness, don't choose the plan with TE in the title as that one is tax exclusive (you have 2 choices)

soc code ZB10HSTI is the one you want.

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Apr 20, 2023 01:13 AM
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town229Apr 20, 2023 01:13 AM
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Quote from Rdog :
After seeing your comments about the firewall script not changing the TTL on the Asus router boot up, I checked my RT-AC68 and the TTL didn't change either. I had to manually run it as you described. There is a bug in the script that I copied from (and saw others using as well). That script originated from this post. https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=155908042&postcount=2578

This line of code returns false since the ip route command doesn't return a default gateway value on boot up, at least not at the time this script is executed on my router.
Code:
if [ `ip route | awk '/default/ { print $3 }'` = 192.168.12.1 ] ; then
For those planning to leave their T-Mobile gateway attached to their Asus router all of the time, the script can be simplified to always change the TTL without checking for the IP of the gateway. Here is the simplified version.
Code:
#!/bin/sh

# Apply missing setting.
modprobe xt_HL
modprobe xt_hl

iptables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -j TTL --ttl-set 66
ip6tables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -j HL --hl-set 66
logger "Set TTL to 66 for all connections"
For those that like to tinker with the various settings like myself, below is the version I'm using with comments detailing some of the variables you can use. The output can be seen in the System Log on the router.

Code:
#!/bin/sh

# Apply missing setting.
modprobe xt_HL
modprobe xt_hl

# Get Primay WAN IP
WAN0_IP=$(nvram get wan0_ipaddr)
logger "WAN0_IP = ${WAN0_IP}"

# Get Secondary WAN IP if Dual WAN enabled
WAN1_IP=$(nvram get wan1_ipaddr)
logger "WAN1_IP = ${WAN1_IP}"

# Check if USB tethered device is ready.  Returns 1 if active.
USB_MODEM_READY=$(nvram get wan0_is_usb_modem_ready)
logger "USB_MODEM_READY = ${USB_MODEM_READY}"

# Get network interface name
WAN0_IFNAME=$(nvram get wan0_ifname)
logger "WAN0_IFNAME = ${WAN0_IFNAME}"

WAN1_IFNAME=$(nvram get wan1_ifname)
logger "WAN1_IFNAME = ${WAN1_IFNAME}"

# Change to WAN1_IP below if needed
case "${WAN0_IP}" in 
    # Change IP address as needed for your device(s)  
    192.168.12.* | 192.168.56.*) 
        # Set TTL for all connections
        iptables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -j TTL --ttl-set 66
        ip6tables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -j HL --hl-set 66
        logger "Set TTL to 66 for all connections"
    ;; 
    *)  
        # Set defaults here.

        # Enable TTL changes for USB tethered devices only
        if [ "${USB_MODEM_READY}" = 1 ] ; then
            iptables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -o usb0 -j TTL --ttl-set 66
            ip6tables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -o usb0 -j HL --hl-set 66
            logger "Set TTL to 66 for USB connection only"
        fi
    ;; 
esac
I also noticed the original script defaulted the TTL to 65 if no T-Mobile gateway IP was attached. I'm not sure why that was needed, so I removed that code. My testing shows the TTL defaults (or resets) to 64 if you don't modify the TTL thru the firewall script.

Some additional things I noted while testing:
  • The firewall script executes on boot up and anytime the ethernet cable is connected to a WAN port, or the USB tethering is on and the device connected. So when I disconnect the ethernet cable and reconnect it, I see the in the logs the firewall script ran.

  • I wasn't able to hide the hotspot usage when using mobile phone with USB tethering to the Asus router, even with the TTL changes on the router side. I tested with a Pixel 7, Samsung S20, and Samsung A7 Lite tablet with my RT-AC68U and it always counted as hotspot data. I saw a Reddit post [reddit.com] saying Android creates a secondary interface that is used and the phone would have to be rooted to change that. I was able to hide the hotspot usage using an app, PdaNet+ on my phone and the companion app on my Windows pc. The other workaround I've read is you can run EasyTether on the phone and connect it to a router from GL.iNet that allows you to install the EasyTether driver on.

  • Tested with an unmodified TMOHS1 hotspot connected to the Asus router with the TTL changes and that worked great, it showed as regular data and not hotspot usage.

  • Tested the Asus load balancing option where you can have two internet connection via dual WAN. One connection was from this T-Mobile line and the other was my fiber connection. I set the balance to 1:1 and my speed tests showed a noticeable increase over using single connection. Unfortunately, the connection time out too much to make it usable. This is an issue with the Asus's buggy implementation of load balancing.

  • I found work around to connect to my camera NVR and access my home network while using this T-Mobile line (since CGNAT uses a shared IP address). I installed Tailscale on one of my home servers and that machine advertise a subnet route so I could access all other devices on my router as if I was on my home network. I also tried ZeroTier but couldn't get it working easily so I didn't continue with it. I also read ZeroTier would be more difficult (time consuming) to get working with my NVR.

Of course, all of the info above was for educational purposes only...
Awesome, I'm the one who wrote that script. For years all my gears and sims were using TTL 65 until I got this sim and KVD21, it seemed to be using TTL 66 and DHCP always at 192.168.12.1, without knowing the guy device to refer the TTL to, I use that if statement to fit all.

If both Spoof & Extent TTL enable the TTL always override to 64, even after manual change, it will reset.

Tailscale is awesome, but before I have to use ZeroTier, it doesn't work on Merlin but works great on OpenWRT. This is the guide I have use to gain remote devices through CGNAT https://kysonlok.gitbook.io/blog/vpn/zeretier
if you want to try it just for backup solution.
Apr 20, 2023 02:55 AM
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HunterOneApr 20, 2023 02:55 AM
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Quote from hokiebuy :
So I wanted to quickly follow-up and tell you what worked. I tried everything you suggested (and thank you!). I reversed the IMEI mod and VPN started working. My hunch is that T-mobile blacklisted VPN usage on my IMEI. I was using IMEI of ZTE device.

Now it's back to using original IMEI and it's working. It could also be that my previous usage was 100% VPN and T-mobile wasn't happy that they couldn't sell DNS inquiries? Now, I will mix VPN use with non-VPN use.
Just a suggestion:

You may want to check any IMEI to be used with the T-Mo IMEI checker for compatibility or blocking.

You said: "Now it's back to using original IMEI and it's working." Is it the IMEI of the original Galaxy tablet that came with the $10 Sim?
IF it is, you may not want to fool around with any other IMEIs.

I also have a ZTE phone and its IMEI is acceptable to the T-Mo checker, but some Nexus 5 IMEIs I have are not compatible, and not blocked.

https://www.t-mobile.com/resource...-own-phone

IF your ZTE IMEI is blacklisted/blocked it should show up on the T-Mo checker.
It's possible that T-Mo may have blacklisted/blocked the ZTE IMEI as it's not recognized as the Galaxy tablet (or a similar internet device) the SIM is supposed to be tied to.

IF that's the case, everyone using the tablet $10 Sim in other devices should be very careful not to trip any T-Mo alarms, for instance excessive VPN usage, or just excessive usage, etc.
It's one thing to have an IMEI blacklisted, BUT you don't want the T-Mo Sim blacklisted/blocked/terminated for violating the TOS.
Just be smart here.

Reading this thread, I think someone mentioned blacklisted/blocked but can't recall the reason.
Search this thread for blacklisted or blocked, for instance:

https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=161364493&postcount=4660

When I check the TMOHS1 IMEI with the T-Mo IMEI checker it shows as compatible as a Wingtech HS1 4G LTE Mobile Hotspot, but it also states:
"We can't confirm that this device is unblocked. Please contact the original wireless carrier for information about the device's status."

Similarly with the KVD21: Arcadyan KVD21 HINT 5G Router.
Last edited by HunterOne April 19, 2023 at 09:01 PM.
Apr 20, 2023 07:12 PM
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bommalattamApr 20, 2023 07:12 PM
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Is t mobile cracking down on people using these sim in phones? The connection seems to be dropping the last couple of days. Not sure if it's the phone or network. Anyone experiencing the same? For reference, Have 14 pro max
Apr 21, 2023 02:22 AM
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c0d3917Apr 21, 2023 02:22 AM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
Honestly if you are thinking about using this consistently at home it's worth it to invest another 60-70 bucks on a KVD21 or something equivalent, you will get much better speeds on 5G (assuming you have 5G coverage). I was using a TMOHS1 which is 4G, got 40-50 mbps consistently, which is not bad; but with the KVD21 I'm now getting 150-200 consistently and 20ms ping, which is actually good enough to use as home internet.
Thanks for the input......

I'm actually running a Nok5g21 "trashcan" via ethernet to my Asus rt-ax68u. Have great coverage here and pull 600 mbps down pretty regularly with 20ms pings.

I also have a "modded' Inseego m2000 running another sim pulling essentially the same #'s.

I just like to tinker a bit here and there...... Hence my current research in possibly using these sims in a 5g phone via USB or ethernet. Thanks again!
Apr 21, 2023 05:08 AM
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cuoreesitanteApr 21, 2023 05:08 AM
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Quote from c0d3917 :
Thanks for the input......

I'm actually running a Nok5g21 "trashcan" via ethernet to my Asus rt-ax68u. Have great coverage here and pull 600 mbps down pretty regularly with 20ms pings.

I also have a "modded' Inseego m2000 running another sim pulling essentially the same #'s.

I just like to tinker a bit here and there...... Hence my current research in possibly using these sims in a 5g phone via USB or ethernet. Thanks again!
Ah nice!

How was the m2000 modding process? I wouldn't mind getting one for taking this on the road occasionally if it's not too complicated.
Apr 21, 2023 05:11 AM
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c0d3917Apr 21, 2023 05:11 AM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
Ah nice!

How was the m2000 modding process? I wouldn't mind getting one for taking this on the road occasionally if it's not too complicated.
Not bad, actually worked with Rich Hathaway. Plugged the m2000 into my laptop, fired up flexihub and Rich modded the m2000 and "fixed" my imei.... Took all of 15 min.
Apr 21, 2023 08:40 PM
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cuoreesitanteApr 21, 2023 08:40 PM
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Quote from c0d3917 :
Not bad, actually worked with Rich Hathaway. Plugged the m2000 into my laptop, fired up flexihub and Rich modded the m2000 and "fixed" my imei.... Took all of 15 min.
Ah that mod, I do recall that early on in the thread. How much did it cost, if you don;t mind sharing? And do you have the ability revert back to stock if something went wrong, and get it modded again? Or was it a one time deal?

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Apr 21, 2023 09:38 PM
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c0d3917Apr 21, 2023 09:38 PM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
Ah that mod, I do recall that early on in the thread. How much did it cost, if you don;t mind sharing? And do you have the ability revert back to stock if something went wrong, and get it modded again? Or was it a one time deal?
I got the m2000 for $50 locally and had Rich flash ot for $150. It has been rock solid for just about 1 year now, on 24/7.

He can do pretty much anything you'd need. I'd recommend reaching out to him with any specific questions..... He's really great to deal with.......
Apr 22, 2023 01:50 AM
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darkiApr 22, 2023 01:50 AM
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Quote from bommalattam :
Is t mobile cracking down on people using these sim in phones? The connection seems to be dropping the last couple of days. Not sure if it's the phone or network. Anyone experiencing the same? For reference, Have 14 pro max
No issues at all, 14 pro max (EU model), still getting 600-800mbps without problems.
Apr 22, 2023 03:19 PM
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hokiebuyApr 22, 2023 03:19 PM
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Quote from HunterOne :
Just a suggestion:

You may want to check any IMEI to be used with the T-Mo IMEI checker for compatibility or blocking.

You said: "Now it's back to using original IMEI and it's working." Is it the IMEI of the original Galaxy tablet that came with the $10 Sim?
IF it is, you may not want to fool around with any other IMEIs.

I also have a ZTE phone and its IMEI is acceptable to the T-Mo checker, but some Nexus 5 IMEIs I have are not compatible, and not blocked.
By original IMEI, I meant IMEI of GL.Inet. I checked both IMEIs using T-mobile's website: it seems both show as unblocked. ZTE IMEI shows compatible. GL.Inet IMEI shows incompatible, but VPN seems to work fine regardless. Neither IMEIs are blocked. It makes it very hard to understand why on ZTE VPN is throttled/blocked. One thing I notice though on T-mobile account is when using sim card in router, I see picture of "Phone". however, when I use sim card in ZTE, it shows tablet, watch and some other device - all pictures. Therefore, I think T-mobile doesn't seem to know what ZTE device is and blocks VPN on it, but router is using some generic LTE chip that's also used in several Androids and allowing VPN on it? That's my only guess.

Anyway, I'll be very careful now and only use VPN when i really need it. Might get separate $15 tablet line to play around.
Apr 23, 2023 01:22 AM
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HunterOneApr 23, 2023 01:22 AM
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Perhaps, someone with some substantial T-Mo usage knowledge can chime in on this:

After I started using the KVD21 a couple of months ago, I noticed in my T-Mo account usage that the data usage went down substantially even though my usage was about the same, if not more.
Before the KVD21 I was using the TMOHS1 and the monthly data usage showed about 200 Gb.
After, with the KVD21 the data usage shown in the account went down to less than 20 Gb for the latest month.
It looks as if the data usage may be calculated differently with the KVD21 vs the TMOHS1.
That was unexpected.
There is/was a lot of video streaming, news channels, movies, etc., so there is the possibility that the data going thru the TMOHS1 counts as all data, video streaming and non-video data, whereas the KVD21 does not count the video streaming data at all as regular data.

Hotspot data is 0, ZERO, with both of the above.
And the HDPASS is enabled for HD Video.

Perhaps, the T-Mo Binge-On feature is not available for the TMOHS1???
T-Mo can maybe differentiate between the two devices based on their IMEI #s???

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/b...ming-video

(Based on the post right above, T-Mo maybe doing some IMEI differentiation???)

In the account, the TMOHS1 is shown as: Phone-first Unknown Device with its IMEI #, and the KKVD21 is shown as: 5G Gateway A 32GB • Black, with its IMEI #.

So, T-Mo is probably doing some differentiation between devices based on their IMEI #s, and maybe treating them differently as far as data usage is concerned.
(And, perhaps, as other identifying characteristics are concerned. And/or may start doing so in the future, which is not good news for those using these $10 Sims in devices other than the tablets they're supposed to be tied to.)
Last edited by HunterOne April 22, 2023 at 07:40 PM.
Apr 23, 2023 04:10 PM
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hokiebuyApr 23, 2023 04:10 PM
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Quote from HunterOne :
Perhaps, someone with some substantial T-Mo usage knowledge can chime in on this:

After I started using the KVD21 a couple of months ago, I noticed in my T-Mo account usage that the data usage went down substantially even though my usage was about the same, if not more.
Before the KVD21 I was using the TMOHS1 and the monthly data usage showed about 200 Gb.
After, with the KVD21 the data usage shown in the account went down to less than 20 Gb for the latest month.
It looks as if the data usage may be calculated differently with the KVD21 vs the TMOHS1.
That was unexpected.
There is/was a lot of video streaming, news channels, movies, etc., so there is the possibility that the data going thru the TMOHS1 counts as all data, video streaming and non-video data, whereas the KVD21 does not count the video streaming data at all as regular data.

Hotspot data is 0, ZERO, with both of the above.
And the HDPASS is enabled for HD Video.

Perhaps, the T-Mo Binge-On feature is not available for the TMOHS1???
T-Mo can maybe differentiate between the two devices based on their IMEI #s???

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/b...ming-video

(Based on the post right above, T-Mo maybe doing some IMEI differentiation???)

In the account, the TMOHS1 is shown as: Phone-first Unknown Device with its IMEI #, and the KKVD21 is shown as: 5G Gateway A 32GB • Black, with its IMEI #.

So, T-Mo is probably doing some differentiation between devices based on their IMEI #s, and maybe treating them differently as far as data usage is concerned.
(And, perhaps, as other identifying characteristics are concerned. And/or may start doing so in the future, which is not good news for those using these $10 Sims in devices other than the tablets they're supposed to be tied to.)
KVD21 - why is T-mobile not blocking T-mobile tablet data SIMs in this device to begin with if you haven't modded IMEI?
Apr 24, 2023 01:22 AM
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HunterOneApr 24, 2023 01:22 AM
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Quote from hokiebuy :
KVD21 - why is T-mobile not blocking T-mobile tablet data SIMs in this device to begin with if you haven't modded IMEI?
IMHO, it's just business and very smart business at that.
The cellular marketplace in the US is just saturated and the only way for all these very large cellular companies is to steal customers from one another.
The marketing expense to acquire a new customer is very high.
Also, they have to compete with the wired services like Fios and the cables whose prices are decreasing too.

So, instead of spending $$$ in marketing T-Mo just came up with these $10 or $15 tablet plans. These A7 Lite tablets are sold to the $10 customers for over $200 but they were most likely acquired from Samsung at a small fraction of this.
In addition they lock a customer in for 2 years, betting that these customers will get to use other T-Mo services. I have.
Also, the marginal cost of all these Gigabytes is getting smaller and smaller, in other words, T-Mo is making $$ on these $10 or $15 tablet plans.

It would be very counterproductive of T-Mo to alienate and chase customers away from its fold even if they're using these Sims in other devices. It'll be pretty stupid actually.
If I were in charge of T-Mo, I wouldn't do it, but I'll be focusing on getting these customers to port their cellular #s over to T-Mo by offering competitively priced product bundles.

Besides, the name of the game now for T-Mo, and the other cellular providers, is the expansion of their 5G networks that will provide even more spare capacities.
It'll be foolish to devote their IT capabilities in focusing on customers like these $10 tablet customers, instead of focusing their energies on their network expansion and keeping the customers in their fold instead of losing them.

(Since the TMOHS1 devices were given out for free with 30 Gb of data to test the T-Mo network, it's very likely that their IMEIs are wired in the T-Mo network to use ALL data just as regular data and not to differentiate between video streaming and regular data. That would explain my previous post above here vs the KVD21 data usage.)
Last edited by HunterOne April 23, 2023 at 07:34 PM.
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ScottoDonoMay 14, 2023 03:41 AM
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Anyone use the sim combined with a cheap phone/text plan like H20 $60 a year and combine in dual sim phone for a cheap unlimited phone plan?

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May 14, 2023 12:16 PM
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gunnaynMay 14, 2023 12:16 PM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
Anyone use the sim combined with a cheap phone/text plan like H20 $60 a year and combine in dual sim phone for a cheap unlimited phone plan?

Better yet. Get a google voice number for free and pair with plan. Cost $10 to have phone and data. Win.

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