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Various Utility Companies [emerson.com] offers to current
Account Holders: Sensi Smart Wi-Fi Thermostat (various) in select states for sale prices as listed below + Additional Rebate w/ Select Utility Companies. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Offer Notes:
- Rebate amounts vary depending on the utility provider.
- The utilities listed offer an instant rebate via an online marketplace, but your utility may offer a traditional rebate. To find traditional rebates, Click Here [emerson.com], scroll to the bottom of the listings, then click the button under the header that says "Don't see your utility?"
- Some discounts may require enrollment into energy savings programs. These programs are designed to help ease demand on the electric grid by allowing the utility to make slight adjustments to your thermostat on select days during the year. Program specifics vary, but you are always able to override any thermostat changes.
- No c-wire is necessary and no professional installation required for the ST55U model.
Example Participating Locations/ Services (prices below after rebate):
- Arizona
- California
- Colorado
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- Georgia
- Idaho
- Illinois
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- Michigan
- Minnesota
- Mississippi
- Missouri
- New Hampshire
- New Jersey
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- North Dakota
- Ohio
- Oklahoma
- Pennsylvania
- Rhode Island
- South Carolina
- South Dakota
- Texas
- Virginia
- Washington
- WisconsinFocus On Energy [focusonenergymarketplace.com] $54 - expired
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I personally installed four of these in my son's home alone three years ago, at least 2-3 of which were without a c wire. At the time I spoke to the Emerson Electric (mfr of Sensi brand and coincidentally local to where I live) technical support staff about their claim to not need a c wire (lots of other sellers claim no need but fail to point out that this means their devices rely on batteries which obviously die and usually at in opportune times). The technician's explanation was what I used in my post. It makes sense and I've read it online in other places confirming this. The units still work now and there's no way the batteries would have lasted that long.
Now that I've told you what I've actually done and my research with multiple sources, it's your turn to share with us. Have you installed one or more of these exact units? Did you call the manufacturer? Or do you just feel superior making negative comments? This forum is about sharing and helping others.
BTW, for anyone considering spending extra to get the color LCD version, be advised that model does indeed require the c wire. The one in the original post is monochromatic and it's simpler needs allows it to be operated without the c wire. If you wish to confirm, suggest calling the tech line. When I did, the wait time was almost non-existent, there was no labyrinth of menus to navigate, the technician was quite skilled, and their voice was easily understood. This was pre-pandemic but I hope that hasn't changed. The experience left me glad that I bought their product, which incidentally was not free at the time.
Since you were not on my phone call with technician, it's impossible for you to assume I misunderstood anything. Have you actually spoken to their technical support staff?
If you read my other post, you would see and read the documentation and the manufacturer link to it. Take the time to do so before making snarky comments. You should also reread your own quote and notice the operative word "backup". The batteries provide just the power to retain the settings.
Had you taken the time to read and understand the documentation, you'd understand that although you have a c wire and for some reason chose not wire the thermostat with it, you'd realize that your thermostat is being powered as I described and not by your batteries. If you don't believe that, remove them altogether and see that the device still operates consistent with what the manufacturer designed using the low voltage wiring.
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based on all the comments i am still not sure if this unit need a power c or not but so i will hold off for now
https://sensi.emerson.c
" For Sensi™ Smart Thermostat, a common wire (c-wire) is required for heat only systems, cool only and heat pump systems. For Sensi™ Smart Touch Thermostat, all system types require a common wire (c-wire)."
Unless you have a system that does heat or cool ONLY or you have a heat pump, you don't need a c wire. As I said in a different comment, the Sensi uses the electrical current from the wire not being used at the time. If you have a traditional furnace and air conditioning system, this will work right out of the box. Just need a smart phone and their app to install. Their website has useful info that you can review prior to and during installation.
Wi-Fi Smart Color 7-Day Programmable Smart Thermostat with Color-Changing Touchscreen Display
got it for 65.99. its on sale for 129.99 but with code got it cheaper, SLICK DEAL!!!
i get on their website a few times a year to see and they never have anything
Thanks
i get on their website a few times a year to see and they never have anything
https://www.evergy.com/ways-to-sa...hermostats
And it really does depend on your state. Sadly, Kansas doesnt have a lot of energy savings programs as much as the surrounding states.
Edit: Yeah it looks like Missouri has $50 Nests and free ecobees right now.
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From the Emerson website:
"Two AA batteries (included) provide backup power that can last for months. However, if you have a c-wire, it is recommended that you connect it."
If you don't install a C wire, the batteries run out quickly. Could anything be clearer?
Since you were not on my phone call with technician, it's impossible for you to assume I misunderstood anything. Have you actually spoken to their technical support staff?
If you read my other post, you would see and read the documentation and the manufacturer link to it. Take the time to do so before making snarky comments. You should also reread your own quote and notice the operative word "backup". The batteries provide just the power to retain the settings.
Had you taken the time to read and understand the documentation, you'd understand that although you have a c wire and for some reason chose not wire the thermostat with it, you'd realize that your thermostat is being powered as I described and not by your batteries. If you don't believe that, remove them altogether and see that the device still operates consistent with what the manufacturer designed using the low voltage wiring.
Since you were not on my phone call with technician, it's impossible for you to assume I misunderstood anything. Have you actually spoken to their technical support staff?
If you read my other post, you would see and read the documentation and the manufacturer link to it. Take the time to do so before making snarky comments. You should also reread your own quote and notice the operative word "backup". The batteries provide just the power to retain the settings.
Had you taken the time to read and understand the documentation, you'd understand that although you have a c wire and for some reason chose not wire the thermostat with it, you'd realize that your thermostat is being powered as I described and not by your batteries. If you don't believe that, remove them altogether and see that the device still operates consistent with what the manufacturer designed using the low voltage wiring.
What a weird dude that toller guy is
Battery: 2 AA batteries
Wired: 20 to 30 VAC through terminals C and Rc or Rh
NEC class II, 50/60 Hz
https://sensi.emerson.c
You're probably thinking of the new digital meters that they can read and control from HQ (The big thing usually on the outside of a house with a wheel or digital counter). There aren't any thermostats I'm aware of that your utility company could access without your permission
It does. I actually got this on promo for $4 in December. They make a product called fast stat that you don't need to run a c wire and it works.
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