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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM
expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

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  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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coolcoder
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If you buy by the end of April, you will get 7.12% for the first 6 months, and 9.62% for the 6 months after that (you are locked in at 9.62% for the second 6 months even if the rate for the period starting Nov 2022 is lower). Even if you could, why would you want to take your money out while you are earning 9.62%? You can take your money out after 12 months and before 5 years with a penalty equal to the last three months of interest.

Also, it is highly unlikely that inflation is going to go down to 0% anytime soon, so most of us will just leave the money in there for at least 5 years if not longer. Sure beats the 0.5% - 1% savings interest I was getting.
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Assuming you want to hold for 18 months:

Buy today: 7.12% for next 6 mo + 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon

Buy in May: 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon + (unknown)% for next 6 mon
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Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.

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Apr 29, 2022 03:19 AM
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aizeusApr 29, 2022 03:19 AM
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Quote from ValueRanger :
The rate goes up next month, and it's 6 months, not 3. So it can go down significantly in 6 months?
In the extremely unlikely event inflation is 0% for the next six months, you would still earn 4.81% for the year (9.62%/2 + 0%/2).
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lmoney783Apr 29, 2022 03:20 AM
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Quote from shj :
A family of 4 can get much more. You can buy them as gifts for future years as well. The gifts count against the 10K limit as well for the year the gift is transferred.

So you can buy 10k for yourself + 10k (gift for wife for 2023) + 10k (gift for wife for 2024) + (for kids)…
Wife can do the same.

Remember the lock-in periods though - atleast one year
Can you explain this some more please? I opened and account and funded. My wife opened and funded. How can we now maximize. We have 2 kids
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shjApr 29, 2022 03:22 AM
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Quote from Henry2006 :
How does this works...so I just buy multi-year as gifts but without actually gifting them?
Yeah… you can buy with just the recipients name and ssn…. And then actually deliver the gift at a later time. You can never touch the gift to redeem it on your own. But interest accumulation starts on the day of purchase
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Quote from Henry2006 :
How does this works...so I just buy multi-year as gifts but without actually gifting them?
https://thefinancebuff.com/buy-i-...-gift.html
Search SD for Treasury to find the older thread that has much more extensive discussion.
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tennis8363Apr 29, 2022 03:24 AM
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Quote from shj :
A family of 4 can get much more. You can buy them as gifts for future years as well. The gifts count against the 10K limit as well for the year the gift is transferred.

So you can buy 10k for yourself + 10k (gift for wife for 2023) + 10k (gift for wife for 2024) + (for kids)…
Wife can do the same.

Remember the lock-in periods though - atleast one year
Don't forget another $10k in a trust.
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shjApr 29, 2022 03:25 AM
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Quote from lmoney783 :
Can you explain this some more please? I opened and account and funded. My wife opened and funded. How can we now maximize. We have 2 kids
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...q.htm#gift

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in..._gifts.htm
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BuddypoppieApr 29, 2022 03:25 AM
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Remember annual 10k limit is per person. So this is excellent time so pour in for yourself and spouse. Also, use the trick of "gifting" to each other. There is no limit on that. As an example You can buy 50k of "gift" for your spouse now, lock-in the rate for next 12 months and then actually assign 10k from it every year for next 5 years. Your spouse can do the same in reverse for you.
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tennis8363Apr 29, 2022 03:25 AM
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Quote from Fogmoose :
Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.
You have more faith in people's level of financial acuity than I do Smilie
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Quote from Buddypoppie :
Remember annual 10k limit is per person. So this is excellent time so pour in for yourself and spouse. Also, use the trick of "gifting" to each other. There is no limit on that. As an example You can buy 50k of "gift" for your spouse now, lock-in the rate for next 12 months and then actually assign 10k from it every year for next 5 years. Your spouse can do the same in reverse for you.
If you tie up too much money, you may miss out on better opportunities in the future since the money is locked up for years since you can only deliver $10k per year and cash out. Who knows what kind of interest this bond will earn next year.
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Only 29 mins left to lock in the 7% for 6 months and 9% for the next 6.
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Quote from Fogmoose :
Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.
Not necessarily. You dont have to buy $10k if that is all you have. You could buy $1k or $2k if you think it unlikely that you will use it in the next year. Beats having no interest in a savings account. If you have $10k earning zero interest vs $8k earning zero interest and $2k earning 7.5% interest, that is an average of 1.5% interest overall. Then after 1 year, buy another $1k or $2k when the first set of I bonds become available for emergencies. Assuming the interest rates hold, then that becomes 3% average interest. After a few years, you will have your savings mostly in Ibonds that can be redeemed in an emergency. Then you would keep 1 month of emergency money in a bank and the rest in redeemable I bonds.
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BadMannurseApr 29, 2022 03:38 AM
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I'm really dim with this stuff. If I get the max of 10k, the interest would be about 850$ per year? (assuming an average of 8.5%)
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BenedictDonaldApr 29, 2022 03:38 AM
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You would have to be a fool to not take advantage of this, if you have the excess funds lying around.

The biggest downside IMO is nuclear war with Russia.
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Quote from RegisteredMurseNYC :
I'm really dim with this stuff. If I get the max of 10k, the interest would be about 850$ per year? (assuming an average of 8.5%)
More or less but that's if you lock in today's rate since we only know the current and next rate. There's penalty (last 3 mo interest) for early withdrawal if you withdraw after 12 mo but before 5 yrs.

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