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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM
expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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coolcoder
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If you buy by the end of April, you will get 7.12% for the first 6 months, and 9.62% for the 6 months after that (you are locked in at 9.62% for the second 6 months even if the rate for the period starting Nov 2022 is lower). Even if you could, why would you want to take your money out while you are earning 9.62%? You can take your money out after 12 months and before 5 years with a penalty equal to the last three months of interest.

Also, it is highly unlikely that inflation is going to go down to 0% anytime soon, so most of us will just leave the money in there for at least 5 years if not longer. Sure beats the 0.5% - 1% savings interest I was getting.
shj
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Assuming you want to hold for 18 months:

Buy today: 7.12% for next 6 mo + 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon

Buy in May: 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon + (unknown)% for next 6 mon
Fogmoose
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Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.

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May 02, 2022 11:49 AM
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life4evaMay 02, 2022 11:49 AM
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Quote from Greg06 :
The current rate, good for the next six months is 7.12% and then you would get the 9.62% for the next six months. Basically by doing it in the next hour you get a great rate for 12 months. If you wait until tomorrow you will get a great rate (9.62) for six months and a mystery rate for the next six months.
But even if the rate drops to half (4.5% estimate) still much better than having it parked in a bank account savings earning cents)
May 02, 2022 12:00 PM
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talkbackfreebieMay 02, 2022 12:00 PM
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CHING CHING ! Loving the sound of the interest I made for the second month in a row ! This is fun ! LOL
May 02, 2022 12:29 PM
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RedmontMay 02, 2022 12:29 PM
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Quote from Greg06 :
The current rate, good for the next six months is 7.12% and then you would get the 9.62% for the next six months. Basically by doing it in the next hour you get a great rate for 12 months. If you wait until tomorrow you will get a great rate (9.62) for six months and a mystery rate for the next six months.
The rate in 6 months maybe a mystery but the chances that it will fall below a semi-annual rate of 3.56% (which translates to an annual rate of 7.12% ) are almost none because the seeds of inflation that have been sewn over the last few years of money printing are just beginning to sprout now. Absent a Covid lockdown the rate of inflation does not turn on a dime and suddenly start going down. Before the rate of inflation can start going DOWN it first needs to start going up at a slower rate for a number of months and even then there needs to be sound economic policies in place (not Fed interest rate hikes) that give people confidence that inflation can come down. Yet even if everything goes according to that model, it is still highly unlikely that the rate of inflation increases will not only slow down but then reverse and reverse all the way back down to 3.56% in just 6 months .
May 02, 2022 12:45 PM
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alwynMay 02, 2022 12:45 PM
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Quote from cheapnomad :
Everyone here should read "the bitcoin standard" and take in to consideration that the government will keep printing money like no tomorrow. Yes, its a high %, but so is inflation due to money printing. A fixed market cap asset has no inflation, and can only go up in the long term
It can only go up all the time if it has utility. Otherwise it will just go up and down all the time since taking profit off suckers is the utility.
May 02, 2022 01:28 PM
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mattnis1May 02, 2022 01:28 PM
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Quote from aizeus :
In the extremely unlikely event inflation is 0% for the next six months, you would still earn 4.81% for the year (9.62%/2 + 0%/2).
It's a base rate PLUS inflation rate.
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phonicMay 02, 2022 02:08 PM
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Quote from mattnis1 :
It's a base rate PLUS inflation rate.
True, but that doesn't invalidate what they said. The base rate is currently 0%. Could it go up to 0.25% in Nov 2022 with a 0% inflation rate? Maybe, but worst case scenario it will be 0% across the board, which has happened historically. And the base rate is based on when you bought the bond and doesn't vary. So any bond you buy today will be 0% base rate until you cash it out.
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SiennaDeer8270May 02, 2022 02:14 PM
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Quote from Flawless700 :
If you have 50 or 60k in the bank and want to grow 10k of it essentially risk free, this is a great venue for that, in addition to whatever you have elsewhere.

800 dollars here, 800 dollars there, that's how you win the game.
Not winning any game with $800 lol. Better off using your 10k on a credit card spend bonus that's non taxable.
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May 02, 2022 02:18 PM
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DogAndPonyMay 02, 2022 02:18 PM
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Quote from SiennaDeer8270 :
Not winning any game with $800 lol. Better off using your 10k on a credit card spend bonus that's non taxable.
Why not both? I do it all. $800 here, $800 there. I'm up massively. Follow my lead.
May 02, 2022 02:20 PM
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phonicMay 02, 2022 02:20 PM
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Quote from SiennaDeer8270 :
Not winning any game with $800 lol. Better off using your 10k on a credit card spend bonus that's non taxable.
Uhmmm..... You do realize that if you spend $10k on your credit card to get a spending bonus, you don't actually get the $10k back, right? So I'm not sure how that is anywhere near a comparable scenario.
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batotmanMay 02, 2022 02:20 PM
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Quote from Flawless700 :
If you have 50 or 60k in the bank and want to grow 10k of it essentially risk free, this is a great venue for that, in addition to whatever you have elsewhere.

800 dollars here, 800 dollars there, that's how you win the game.
I'm only sad I couldn't tie up $100,000+. I think the housing market will tank within 2 years and 9.6% risk free is gonna pan out better when the bubble bursts.
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Quote from batotman :
I'm only sad I couldn't tie up $100,000+. I think the housing market will tank within 2 years and 9.6% risk free is gonna pan out better when the bubble bursts.
Certainly sucks and kids would've came in handy laugh out loud
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bugelrexMay 02, 2022 02:39 PM
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Quote from chowar01 :
Lol why state that the US has never defaulted when you can compare our government to the USSR, very useful and realistic 😂

If US defaults on bonds, I think these will be the least of my worries
The currency will be "guns & bullets" if usa defaults
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fivenueMay 02, 2022 02:41 PM
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Quote from coolcoder :
If you buy by the end of April, you will get 7.12% for the first 6 months, and 9.62% for the 6 months after that (you are locked in at 9.62% for the second 6 months even if the rate for the period starting Nov 2022 is lower). Even if you could, why would you want to take your money out while you are earning 9.62%? You can take your money out after 12 months and before 5 years with a penalty equal to the last three months of interest.

Also, it is highly unlikely that inflation is going to go down to 0% anytime soon, so most of us will just leave the money in there for at least 5 years if not longer. Sure beats the 0.5% - 1% savings interest I was getting.

"...Even if you could..."

so does it mean there is a chance we can't get our money back?
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dp1930May 02, 2022 02:43 PM
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Is this still valid? Can I still get it? Never invested in bonds so this would be my first.

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chong67May 02, 2022 02:44 PM
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2 yrs ago when the Pend was high, everyone panic. The petroleum sector is hit hard, economy slow, no demand.

I bought lots of it. Now at 70% return!

This is how you win!

BUY LOW, SELL HIGH. I dont listen to stock brokers or financial advisors.

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