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expired Posted by mothra0 • May 17, 2022
expired Posted by mothra0 • May 17, 2022

Refurbished Gateway GWTN141-10BK 14.1" FHD i5-1135G7 2.4GHz Intel Iris Xe Graphics 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Win 10 Home $329

$329

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It's back in stock. Different colors.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/792116879

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/823729530

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/744084451

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurb.../599789701

Specs:
Intel Core i5-1135G7 Quad-Core Processor
14.1" 1920x1080 IPS Display
512GB Solid State Drive
16GB Memory
Intel Iris Xe Graphics (80 eu)
Fingerprint Scanner
1.0 MP Front-Facing Camera
Inputs:
1x Micro SD Slot (Up to 512GB)
1x HDMI Output
1x USB Type-C
1x USB 3.0
1x USB 3.1
Built-in Microphone
2x Built-in Stereo Speakers
Bluetooth 5.1
Weight: 4.0 lbs.
Windows 10 Home

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It's back in stock. Different colors.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/792116879

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/823729530

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/744084451

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurb.../599789701

Specs:
Intel Core i5-1135G7 Quad-Core Processor
14.1" 1920x1080 IPS Display
512GB Solid State Drive
16GB Memory
Intel Iris Xe Graphics (80 eu)
Fingerprint Scanner
1.0 MP Front-Facing Camera
Inputs:
1x Micro SD Slot (Up to 512GB)
1x HDMI Output
1x USB Type-C
1x USB 3.0
1x USB 3.1
Built-in Microphone
2x Built-in Stereo Speakers
Bluetooth 5.1
Weight: 4.0 lbs.
Windows 10 Home

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Model: Refurbished Gateway GWTN141-10BK 14.1" FHD i5-1135G7 2.4GHz Intel Iris Xe Graphics 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Win 10 Home Black

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May 17, 2022
1,563 Posts
Joined Apr 2009
May 17, 2022
nowayman
May 17, 2022
1,563 Posts
Great specs. Too much $ for a refurb, which were probably returned for iffy build quality, IMO
May 17, 2022
225 Posts
Joined Apr 2004
May 17, 2022
ricedragon
May 17, 2022
225 Posts
I picked up a blue one and it did have issues (intermittent slowness and at one point could not power off laptop). I'm going to try once more with a black one. Crossing my fingers.....
May 17, 2022
1,012 Posts
Joined Oct 2008
May 17, 2022
cool2590
May 17, 2022
1,012 Posts
90 days warranty. It used be 1 year.
May 17, 2022
1,563 Posts
Joined Apr 2009
May 17, 2022
nowayman
May 17, 2022
1,563 Posts
Quote from cool2590 :
90 days warranty. It used be 1 year.
Refurb was always 90 days, not worth it
May 17, 2022
225 Posts
Joined Apr 2004
May 17, 2022
ricedragon
May 17, 2022
225 Posts
Quote from nowayman :
Refurb was always 90 days, not worth it
Returns are easy enough with Walmart. I just shipped my blue one back today. I know others had ok experiences with the refurbs so we will see. I did notice the SSD going to 100%, creaking on the case, and had a weird black screen (couldnt power off) event as well. I agree that there are quality issues. Taking a chance and will test it out thoroughly. For those who are not willing to do that I'd stay away as nowayman says.
May 18, 2022
1,122 Posts
Joined Jul 2008
May 18, 2022
pandy00
May 18, 2022
1,122 Posts
Quote from ricedragon :
I picked up a blue one and it did have issues (intermittent slowness and at one point could not power off laptop). I'm going to try once more with a black one. Crossing my fingers.....
Been running mine with Linux Mint.

I noticed on mine that whenever the memory peaked at about 15GB, it would just freeze for 1-3 minutes. I haven't tried using just Firefox as my primary browser instead of Chrome (which is where I have all my tabs). My hunch is it may possibly have to do with memory assigned to the igpu.

The laptop has been fine outside that freezing which is getting annoying because I'm a very tabby person.

Knowing this has a day 90 return... Looks like I still have time to return it.
May 18, 2022
524 Posts
Joined Oct 2020
May 18, 2022
NotHilariousBook
May 18, 2022
524 Posts
I wish they'd quit expiring the other threads on this deal. Because it's been available and in stock nearly every single day.

If folks missed the other 35 threads, the drive in this is a noname m.2 sata drive which seems to be the source of a lot of complaints. DOA's and high failure rates. And it isn't even fast as sata drives go. Appears the drive was made just for these gateway laptops.

The screen is a bit on the dark side and the keyboard is cramped.

The open slot in the bottom is for another m.2 sata drive (still not nvme).

Probably a good idea to put a 1tb drive in that, and transfer the system over to that one, and use the noname one that's harder to get to as a scratch drive for stuff you can replace?

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May 18, 2022
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Joined Oct 2014
May 18, 2022
claromick
May 18, 2022
290 Posts
This gets posted every other day it seems
Pro
May 18, 2022
267 Posts
Joined Mar 2021
May 18, 2022
MadDoraemon
Pro
May 18, 2022
267 Posts
Great specs. Cheap generic body.
May 19, 2022
332 Posts
Joined Apr 2022
May 19, 2022
ShrewdSnow237
May 19, 2022
332 Posts
Quote from nowayman :
Great specs. Too much $ for a refurb, which were probably returned for iffy build quality, IMO
Refurb owner here. Mine was like new, zero problems, used daily and this continues to be literally the best specs for price on the market going on several months. It was not a Dell XPS level build quality to start, so do set expectations accordingly
May 19, 2022
99 Posts
Joined Aug 2021
May 19, 2022
R5R
May 19, 2022
99 Posts
The touchpad is pretty bad, but if you use and external mouse it gets around that. Anyone find any tweaks to help with the touchpad?
May 20, 2022
524 Posts
Joined Oct 2020
May 20, 2022
NotHilariousBook
May 20, 2022
524 Posts
Quote from claromick :
This gets posted every other day it seems
I commented on that. This has been around since November of last year, and it's been in stock every time I've looked at it, unless someone just opened a new thread on it.

The minute it goes out of stock for a few hours, someone marks these as 'expired'.

What a waste to repost it every time someone sees it and the same sorts of questions and info get repeated ad nauseum.

Just got mine. Looks like new. No marks or scratches. Touchpad is below grade. A bit loose feeling and the fingerprint reader didn't like my fingerprint although I didn't mess with it long since I don't need that.

Updating to windows 11 right now.
May 20, 2022
524 Posts
Joined Oct 2020
May 20, 2022
NotHilariousBook
May 20, 2022
524 Posts
Quote from R5R :
The touchpad is pretty bad, but if you use and external mouse it gets around that. Anyone find any tweaks to help with the touchpad?
My only criticism with mine. I just played with the laptop a little while last night.

More planned for today and tomorrow.

The touchpad is a piece of crap on mine. I knew the click was loud from youtube reviews. But mine 'crunches' in several spots, has trouble recognizing the two finger gesture for right click (jumps the mouse cursor away from what I was right clicking on), and seems to be better nearer the edges than in the middle.

I also didn't get the fingerprint reader to recognize my whole fingerprint. It kept wanting me to go higher up the finger until I got to the fingernail, and it still couldn't see everything that it wanted.

Its functional, but glitchy and loud, requiring variable amounts of pressure to get a 'click' depending on where I'm pressing on the pad.

If I wasn't going to be using this 95% of the time with an external mouse and keyboard, I'd send this one back.

In other news, mine came with the 1.2 motherboard that has four ram chips, which shows to windows as 8 sticks of 2GB, in quad channel memory mode. I see the 1.1 rev motherboard has 2 ram chips, and shows as dual channel.

Mine does not have wifi 6, it has AC with a 9461 intel chip that was released in 2017.

The new gateway laptop listing does not say wifi 6 either? So either they ran out of wifi ac motherboards and had to substitute something else that had wifi 6? Or the folks just thought they had wifi 6, and its really wifi 5?

I also went through looking at the bios in relation to ETAPRIME's video on this. He said he just changed two TDP settings, but in what I could see on his video, other options in the bios weren't the same between his and mine. Specifically the time to boost the pl1 pl2 numbers were zero on mine and 128 on his.

I made the same changes I saw on his that I could see to put the TDP at 30w/30w, and changed the time to 128.

Userbench reported no change in the cpu performance, and a raise of the gpu performance from 17% of a 2060 to 19.1%.

Per HWINFO, cpu was only maxing at 26W, was around 71c, and I did not see the boost clocks going over 4GHz for very long, with a turbo of 4.2GHz?

So the bios or default bios settings on this to raise performance seem to be different from one machine to another, or some of these youtube reviewers are changing other stuff in the bios and not mentioning it?

I would be extremely careful fiddling about in the bios. Some settings could easily turn this into a brick, where you have to open it up and disconnect the battery to reset the cmos bios saved data.

I also see a PCIE option in the bios for drives, and the bios has an nvme option visible in the boot drives. I have a 512GB lower end nvme drive, so I'll try sticking that in and fiddling with that pcie option for the drive (disabled by default) and see if I get anything.

Read a ton of reviews on this, and a bunch of the 1 & 2* reviews look to me to be a dead ssd or touchpad complaints.

What a nice laptop to have stuck a crap touchpad in!
May 21, 2022
1,198 Posts
Joined Apr 2011
May 21, 2022
CompulsiveBuyer
May 21, 2022
1,198 Posts
Quote from NotHilariousBook :
I also went through looking at the bios in relation to ETAPRIME's video on this. He said he just changed two TDP settings, but in what I could see on his video, other options in the bios weren't the same between his and mine. Specifically the time to boost the pl1 pl2 numbers were zero on mine and 128 on his.

I made the same changes I saw on his that I could see to put the TDP at 30w/30w, and changed the time to 128.

Userbench reported no change in the cpu performance, and a raise of the gpu performance from 17% of a 2060 to 19.1%.

Per HWINFO, cpu was only maxing at 26W, was around 71c, and I did not see the boost clocks going over 4GHz for very long, with a turbo of 4.2GHz?

So the bios or default bios settings on this to raise performance seem to be different from one machine to another, or some of these youtube reviewers are changing other stuff in the bios and not mentioning it?
That's because the system's firmware is dynamically changing the equivalent PL values in the MMIO register and Intel processors use the lower of the PL values between the MSR and MMIO registers. The solution is to lock the MMIO register with zero values (disabled), which prevents the system from modifying those registers. That leaves you free to set the MSR version of the PL values without interference. I discussed this here:

https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=154543081&postcount=183

Note that locking of the MMIO register only for that power-on session, so you'll want to configure ThrottleStop to automatically run on every boot and to enable its last settings automatically when it runs.

Quote from NotHilariousBook :
I also see a PCIE option in the bios for drives, and the bios has an nvme option visible in the boot drives. I have a 512GB lower end nvme drive, so I'll try sticking that in and fiddling with that pcie option for the drive (disabled by default) and see if I get anything.
The BIOS is fully unlocked and targets all of AMI's customers. As such it has many options inside the menu which wont apply to an individual machine. For example it also has Thunderbolt settings even though the system doesn't have a TB port. Same for NVMe - it only has SATA support.

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May 21, 2022
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Joined Apr 2011
May 21, 2022
CompulsiveBuyer
May 21, 2022
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Quote from pandy00 :
Been running mine with Linux Mint.

I noticed on mine that whenever the memory peaked at about 15GB, it would just freeze for 1-3 minutes. I haven't tried using just Firefox as my primary browser instead of Chrome (which is where I have all my tabs). My hunch is it may possibly have to do with memory assigned to the igpu.

The laptop has been fine outside that freezing which is getting annoying because I'm a very tabby person.

Knowing this has a day 90 return... Looks like I still have time to return it.
It's likely the kernel hitting the paging file when low on available memory and the SSD stuttering handling those paging I/O operations.

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