HP Omen 30L Gaming Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, RTX 3070 Ti

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05-17-2022 at 04:22 PM #3

Does anyone have any thoughts on this deal? It looks good and I'm tempted to buy.

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05-17-2022 at 05:08 PM #4

not much to add, but watched a few reviews on these, they all seemed positive.

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05-17-2022 at 05:51 PM #5

Not really a good deal

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05-17-2022 at 05:59 PM #6

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Not really a good deal

Care to elaborate?

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05-17-2022 at 06:03 PM #7

Gpu prices are dropping like a rock.

So unless you need something now all things will look like relatively bad deals in a few days.

Let the prices drop stabilize then buy.

I image gpu prices might go back up after the 4000 series get released and we go under another covid surge.

but if we keep opening up less need to isolate and game.

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Care to elaborate?

They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

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05-17-2022 at 06:39 PM #9

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They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

Thank for details, where are you seeing processor and CPU for $300?

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05-17-2022 at 06:43 PM #10

I agree, this would have been a deal last year but now with how GPU prices are steadily declining and in good supply, it's probably best to wait it out.

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05-17-2022 at 06:44 PM #11

Quote from CleverSardine3806

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They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

No motherboard or case in those calculations. using the Asus tuf?(no idea just based off your comment) that is second tier GPU runs at least 12 deg cooler than a FE or OEM units, that is hard to find at 600$. Your being pretty hard on this deal. Omen being one of the better prebuilts. If you don't build your own systems or want to buy parts over month at the absolute rock bottom prices this is one of the better deals.

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05-17-2022 at 06:46 PM #12

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Thank for details, where are you seeing processor and CPU for $300?

He's just trolling. There is no $300 deal with mobo for the 5800x.

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05-17-2022 at 06:49 PM #13

Quote from CleverSardine3806

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They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

The HP Omen has a NVMe SSD drive. You can't find one for $36. A 3070ti can't be found for $600. What mobo comes with a 5800x for $300? The PSU is a Cooler Master gold. Good luck finding one for $60.

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05-17-2022 at 06:59 PM #14

Quote from CleverSardine3806

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They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

The Asus TUF is a cheap card and not so reliable? Lol. Yeah, I have to disagree. My TUF 3070 was more expensive than a similar triple fan EVGA, it was rated as one of the best performing 3070s in terms of thermals (their 3080 was one of the few that didn't have VRAM thermal issues from day one), and Asus is so confident in it, they allow the warranty to follow the card from the date of manufacture, which only MSI also does. Nobody else does, to my knowledge.

I put the screws on 3 TUF cards in a mining rig 24/7 for nearly a year at high overclocks. They ran ice cold and nearly silent even at high fan speeds, and never gave me any issues whatsoever. I'd pay MORE for one than an EVGA for the transferable warranty alone, which helped me unload my cards as eth and GPU prices began nose diving.

* Who pays $300 more for a 3070 Ti? Someone that wants a GPU that's just shy of twice as fast

* * DDR5 is superior but DDR4 isn't totally antiquated (DDR3 is). Boards and CPUs just started supporting it...it is still exotic and very expensive, and is JUST now beginning to phase out DDR4. Also, I'd rather have a 2 DIMM arrangement at the same RAM amount so as to enable dual channel mode.

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05-17-2022 at 07:02 PM #15

Quote from CleverSardine3806

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They are using the tuf gpu (which is cheap as not so great in reliability compare to evga or even gigabyte). If built and not pre-built would cost about $200 less, minus all the bloatware that comes with it and removing them. Yes, you're not going t get the badge, but who cares. Per calculation, it will be $1192. Slightly under $1200

$1116 + tax (depends where you live):
$55 for ddr4 16gb (2- dimm 8gb each same as the pre-built)
$300 for CPU (comes with mobo)
$600 for GPU
$65 liquid cooler (corsaire)
$36 1tb SSD (crucial)
$60 800watt pay (raidmax)
Windows 11 is pretty much free if you have an account with Microsoft

Note: DDR 5 works better with ryzen vs DDR 4
DDR4 is quite an old technology, that means your not getting full output potential.

It's probably worth more to buy the dell alienware r10 with 5800x with 1 dimm 16gb ddr4, 3060 12gb OC, 1tb, and the rest is the same above build for $1200. Why pay an extra $300 for a 3070ti?? Lol

GPU is at least $700 and that's for Gigabyte version from recent deal
SSD is nvme $100
Mobo is $150
case is $50 for a cheap but decent one
Fans are another expense depending on how many you get
Windows 11 isn't free, but can be gotten cheap

Also 3060 is for 1080 gaming. My 3070 ti games on my 2k monitor at high settings.

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