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Not sure if it's allowed on this site, so a mod can take it down if it's an issue, but here is my 3% associates code. B-stock or no, this price seems insanely good to me.
Code: CM455K96O19DQJP
Good price if you have to buy now. Remember though that high end 4000 series is coming out soon sometime between July and October. But everyone expects it to be priced above $2000 so that it doesn't crash the market on existing GPUs. Mid range 4000 series will probably come around September- November and have similar performance to the 3080/3090 for less than $1000.
Please be aware that these are repaired warranty cards that had systemic power balancing and power failure issues, partially due to the the PCB design which has been revised. EVGA has a huge pile of these they have fixed and need to get rid of. Look up the issues with the earlier 3090 FTW3 cards. Also the warranty is 1 year and non-transferable.
Please be aware that these are repaired warranty cards that had systemic power balancing and power failure issues, partially due to the the PCB design which has been revised. EVGA has a huge pile of these they have fixed and need to get rid of. Look up the issues with the earlier 3090 FTW3 cards. Also the warranty is 1 year and non-transferable.
Just to add to this as well, the warranty on b-stock cannot be extended so it's 1 year and no other options.
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My experience with B-Stock, whenever you overclock it over 200Mhz, gpu will crash, im 100% sure it s the gpu
That's possible (anything's possible)...
From past research experience, people are damaging/killing the life span on the memory chips way before the GPU itself. The 3090's come with rear memory chips which are virtually unable to dissipate heat (backplate doesn't do squat). The Memory on the front is able to dissipate heat via the actual heatsink.
I wouldn't be surprised if you can barely overclock the memory anymore on these cards. Miners would try to push an overclock anywhere between +1300 all the way to +2000 overclock. As months go on and the chips degrade from not being properly cooled, lucky if the chips can be overclocked at all.
So yeah, if you get a B-Stock 3090, make sure you check to see if the Memory is not degraded.
3080/3080 Ti's do not have this problem because they do not have memory on the back of the PCB
From past research experience, people are damaging/killing the life span on the memory chips way before the GPU itself. The 3090's come with rear memory chips which are virtually unable to dissipate heat (backplate doesn't do squat). The Memory on the front is able to dissipate heat via the actual heatsink.
I wouldn't be surprised if you can barely overclock the memory anymore on these cards. Miners would try to push an overclock anywhere between +1300 all the way to +2000 overclock. As months go on and the chips degrade from not being properly cooled, lucky if the chips can be overclocked at all.
So yeah, if you get a B-Stock 3090, make sure you check to see if the Memory is not degraded.
3080/3080 Ti's do not have this problem because they do not have memory on the back of the PCB
You have no direct experience. 3090 cards have 1 GB 21 Gb/s chips that are underclocked to 19.5 Gb/s from the factory. These FTW3 have a big fat cooler on the front chips and a big fat backplate to the rear chips with good thermal pads. With a typical +1200 memory OC at 300w the memory junction temp reports at about 88C-92C in HWiNFO with typical ambient temps and airflow. This OC and temps is consistent across multiple cards. FTW3 Ultra's are consistently excellent mining cards, right out of the box.
People may OC +1500 to +2000 to get some sort of amazing hashrate, but nobody runs that 24/7 on any sort of scale, it's too hot and unstable. Maybe on a small scale with a modded card.
Furthermore, for all the alarming talk about vram junction temps, there have been no reported cases of memory failure or degradation. I got a 3080 Ti that came out of the box as an already poor memory OCer, it has not degraded further after nearly a year. Heck, HIVE OS didn't even report vram junction temp until 2 months ago. There are literally millions of 3080's world wide that have been running at 100C+ vram junction for over a year continuously.
3070 Ti's,3080's and 3080 Ti's can DEFINITELY have poor vram thermals, for a variety of reasons, but mainly because of poor thermal pads or poor application of pads.
These cards got 99 problems, but memory temps and memory reliability is not one of them.
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If you are just gaming, stick with the 12GB 3000 series 3080 and 3080 Ti. But if you need the 24GB for creative or scientific work or AI this is an insane deal, and you probably aren't overclocking, so the hot memory on the back of the card isn't a big deal.
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EVGA Associate Code 31L0NVDI68NVSB4
Post the code, but I'm not sure if SD will allow it.
still an amazing deal (I paid more for a 3080ti through step-up...damn)
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Code: CM455K96O19DQJP
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank BigBlueShock
From past research experience, people are damaging/killing the life span on the memory chips way before the GPU itself. The 3090's come with rear memory chips which are virtually unable to dissipate heat (backplate doesn't do squat). The Memory on the front is able to dissipate heat via the actual heatsink.
I wouldn't be surprised if you can barely overclock the memory anymore on these cards. Miners would try to push an overclock anywhere between +1300 all the way to +2000 overclock. As months go on and the chips degrade from not being properly cooled, lucky if the chips can be overclocked at all.
So yeah, if you get a B-Stock 3090, make sure you check to see if the Memory is not degraded.
3080/3080 Ti's do not have this problem because they do not have memory on the back of the PCB
From past research experience, people are damaging/killing the life span on the memory chips way before the GPU itself. The 3090's come with rear memory chips which are virtually unable to dissipate heat (backplate doesn't do squat). The Memory on the front is able to dissipate heat via the actual heatsink.
I wouldn't be surprised if you can barely overclock the memory anymore on these cards. Miners would try to push an overclock anywhere between +1300 all the way to +2000 overclock. As months go on and the chips degrade from not being properly cooled, lucky if the chips can be overclocked at all.
So yeah, if you get a B-Stock 3090, make sure you check to see if the Memory is not degraded.
3080/3080 Ti's do not have this problem because they do not have memory on the back of the PCB
People may OC +1500 to +2000 to get some sort of amazing hashrate, but nobody runs that 24/7 on any sort of scale, it's too hot and unstable. Maybe on a small scale with a modded card.
Furthermore, for all the alarming talk about vram junction temps, there have been no reported cases of memory failure or degradation. I got a 3080 Ti that came out of the box as an already poor memory OCer, it has not degraded further after nearly a year. Heck, HIVE OS didn't even report vram junction temp until 2 months ago. There are literally millions of 3080's world wide that have been running at 100C+ vram junction for over a year continuously.
3070 Ti's,3080's and 3080 Ti's can DEFINITELY have poor vram thermals, for a variety of reasons, but mainly because of poor thermal pads or poor application of pads.
These cards got 99 problems, but memory temps and memory reliability is not one of them.
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