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HP Omen 17 (2022): 17.3" QHD 165Hz, i7-12700H, RTX 3070 Ti, 16GB DDR5, 1TB PCIe SSD, Win11H @ $1699.99

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Costco is offering HP Omen 17 (2022) Gaming Laptop (17-ck1065cl) @ $1699.99. Free Pickup or $9.99 Shipping.

Link: https://www.costco.com/hp-omen-17...54173.html

Spec:
  • Windows 11 Home
  • 17.3" 2560x1440 165Hz 300-nits IPS Display, 100% sRGB
  • Core i7-12700H (6P+8E)/20T CPU (4.7 GHz Max Turbo, 24MB cache)
  • 16GB (8GBx2) DDR5 4800 MHz Ram
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • RTX 3070 Ti 8GB GDDR6 Graphics, 125W TGP, 150W /w Dynamic Boost
  • 4-Zone RGB Backlit Keyboard
  • Intel AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 1x Thunderbolt 4 with USB4 Type-C (Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
    • 3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 USB Type-A (1 HP Sleep and Charge)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x Mini DisplayPort 1.4
    • 1x RJ-45 Gigabit Ethernet
    • 1x Multi-Format SD Media Card Reader
    • 1x Headphone/Microphone Combination Jack
  • 330W AC Adapter
  • 6 Cell 86 WHr Battery
  • 6.17 lbs
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Costco is offering HP Omen 17 (2022) Gaming Laptop (17-ck1065cl) @ $1699.99. Free Pickup or $9.99 Shipping.

Link: https://www.costco.com/hp-omen-17...54173.html

Spec:
  • Windows 11 Home
  • 17.3" 2560x1440 165Hz 300-nits IPS Display, 100% sRGB
  • Core i7-12700H (6P+8E)/20T CPU (4.7 GHz Max Turbo, 24MB cache)
  • 16GB (8GBx2) DDR5 4800 MHz Ram
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • RTX 3070 Ti 8GB GDDR6 Graphics, 125W TGP, 150W /w Dynamic Boost
  • 4-Zone RGB Backlit Keyboard
  • Intel AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 1x Thunderbolt 4 with USB4 Type-C (Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
    • 3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 USB Type-A (1 HP Sleep and Charge)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x Mini DisplayPort 1.4
    • 1x RJ-45 Gigabit Ethernet
    • 1x Multi-Format SD Media Card Reader
    • 1x Headphone/Microphone Combination Jack
  • 330W AC Adapter
  • 6 Cell 86 WHr Battery
  • 6.17 lbs

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Jun 5, 2022 7:36 PM
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Mayt948Jun 5, 2022 7:36 PM
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Yeah I've been eyeing this. Wondering if I should try this laptop or keep the legion 7 5900hx/3080 Walmart deal. Return window is ending soon for Walmart so I have to decide quick. screen brightness and 8gb vs 16gb vram have me thinking no but 12th gen Intel, pcie 4, and ddr5 are all solid upgrades over the legion 7
Last edited by Mayt948 June 5, 2022 at 12:38 PM.
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Jun 5, 2022 7:49 PM
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MonicaSlickJun 5, 2022 7:49 PM
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Quote from Mayt948 View quoted comment :
Yeah I've been eyeing this. Wondering if I should try this laptop or keep the legion 7 5900hx/3080 Walmart deal. Return window is ending soon for Walmart so I have to decide quick. screen brightness and 8gb vs 16gb vram have me thinking no but 12th gen Intel, pcie 4, and ddr5 are all solid upgrades over the legion 7
I would keep the Legion. More premium quality build, better screen and more powerful/better for gaming. 8GB Vram is already limiting factor on performance, so imagine in a few months/years with the new more demanding games, etc.

The stronger I7 CPU is obviously better for some uses as well, so is up to you what you want. If gaming is number 1 use for you, stick to the L7.
Jun 5, 2022 7:51 PM
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Mayt948Jun 5, 2022 7:51 PM
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Quote from MonicaSlick View quoted comment :
I would keep the Legion. More premium quality build, better screen and more powerful/better for gaming. 8GB Vram is already limiting factor on performance, so imagine in a few months/years with the new more demanding games, etc.

The stronger I7 CPU is obviously better for some uses as well, so is up to you what you want. If gaming is number 1 use for you, stick to the L7.
I think the 3070ti is pretty close to the 3080 in terms of performance because it's 150w+? (besides the vram) that's what makes it tough. but most games don't use it anyways just nice to have I guess.

edit: looks like tdp May be 165w for the 3070 ti
Last edited by Mayt948 June 5, 2022 at 02:29 PM.
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Quote from Mayt948 View quoted comment :
Yeah I've been eyeing this. Wondering if I should try this laptop or keep the legion 7 5900hx/3080 Walmart deal. Return window is ending soon for Walmart so I have to decide quick. screen brightness and 8gb vs 16gb vram have me thinking no but 12th gen Intel, pcie 4, and ddr5 are all solid upgrades over the legion 7
Keep the Legion 7 with RTX 3080. Pure gaming performance wise, I don't think 3070 Ti can beat a full powered 165W RTX 3080 in Legion 7. This definitely has better CPU performance.
Jun 5, 2022 9:07 PM
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Mayt948Jun 5, 2022 9:07 PM
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Keep the Legion 7 with RTX 3080. Pure gaming performance wise, I don't think 3070 Ti can beat a full powered 165W RTX 3080 in Legion 7. This definitely has better CPU performance.
Yeah may be close though plus extra benefits of 12th gen Intel and ddr5. Any idea of 3dmark scores on this guy?
Jun 6, 2022 4:35 AM
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AdamPendragonJun 6, 2022 4:35 AM
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This price tag was used for I9 with a top-tier laptop GPU before whole situations.
Since the market of GPUs is crashing, wait a bit more you will get far sweat choice.
Jun 6, 2022 3:55 PM
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BoastfulMice8832Jun 6, 2022 3:55 PM
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Quote from Mayt948 View quoted comment :
I think the 3070ti is pretty close to the 3080 in terms of performance because it's 150w+? (besides the vram) that's what makes it tough. but most games don't use it anyways just nice to have I guess.

edit: looks like tdp May be 165w for the 3070 ti
No the TDP is 150w max for 3070ti, not 165w. timespy score is 12100

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Jun 6, 2022 3:58 PM
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Mayt948Jun 6, 2022 3:58 PM
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Quote from BoastfulMice8832 View quoted comment :
No the TDP is 150w max for 3070ti, not 165w. timespy score is 12100
Thought it was 150w + 15w boost? . Hmmm I'm getting mid to high 11000's my legion 7 and around 9300 or so on cpu
Jun 6, 2022 5:09 PM
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BoastfulMice8832Jun 6, 2022 5:09 PM
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Quote from Mayt948 View quoted comment :
Thought it was 150w + 15w boost? . Hmmm I'm getting mid to high 11000's my legion 7 and around 9300 or so on cpu
The legion 7 is. The 3070ti is not. 9300 is low CPU score and it's lowering overall score. sounds like bad ram or messed up boosting, should be 10k+
Jun 6, 2022 5:31 PM
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Mayt948Jun 6, 2022 5:31 PM
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Quote from BoastfulMice8832 View quoted comment :
The legion 7 is. The 3070ti is not. 9300 is low CPU score and it's lowering overall score. sounds like bad ram or messed up boosting, should be 10k+
I checked ram timings and I believe I got the "better" ram yeah I thought it was low too but I'm not sure
Jun 6, 2022 6:50 PM
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architeqJun 6, 2022 6:50 PM
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Quote from MonicaSlick View quoted comment :
I would keep the Legion. More premium quality build, better screen and more powerful/better for gaming. 8GB Vram is already limiting factor on performance, so imagine in a few months/years with the new more demanding games, etc.

The stronger I7 CPU is obviously better for some uses as well, so is up to you what you want. If gaming is number 1 use for you, stick to the L7.
Disagree on the build quality claims. The Omen 17s feel god-level to me, and I've gotten compliments on the industrial design at Starbucks before. Even cooler that you can't tell it's made by HP by looking at it unless you know.
Jun 6, 2022 6:51 PM
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architeqJun 6, 2022 6:51 PM
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Quote from Suryasis View quoted comment :
Keep the Legion 7 with RTX 3080. Pure gaming performance wise, I don't think 3070 Ti can beat a full powered 165W RTX 3080 in Legion 7. This definitely has better CPU performance.
I'll run some benchmarks when my Omen 17 3070 TI comes in, my guess is the Omen will actually win because of the unfair thermals and best-in-class thermal design on the 17" model, but we'll see.
Jun 6, 2022 7:05 PM
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omnivorJun 6, 2022 7:05 PM
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Disagree on the build quality claims. The Omen 17s feel god-level to me, and I've gotten compliments on the industrial design at Starbucks before. Even cooler that you can't tell it's made by HP by looking at it unless you know.

I'll run some benchmarks when my Omen 17 3070 TI comes in, my guess is the Omen will actually win because of the unfair thermals and best-in-class thermal design on the 17" model, but we'll see.
The Omen 17 chassis is a carryover from 2021, and even the Omen 15's build quality is lower than that of the Legion 5 Pro [youtu.be]. The Omen 17 will necessarily have more flex than the Omen 15 (larger means more flex), and the Legion 7 is better built than the 5 Pro. Those are objective facts. So it's only natural to say that the Legion 7 is better built than the Omen 17. This is all supported by the fact that the Legion 7 is basically all metal, whereas only the keyboard deck is on the Omen 17.

I'm not sure where you're getting that the Omen 17 has "best-in-class thermal design." It's adequate, I am sure, but it's missing one vent compared to the higher-end laptops that have 4 vents. Furthermore, it is using standard heat pipes, whereas the Legion 7 has a vapor chamber.

I have no doubt that the Omen here will trash the Legion 7 in CPU tasks, but for gaming, I doubt you'll see significant improvements. The 3080 and the 3070Ti are roughly comparable, but the Legion 7 has more VRAM and more thermal headroom to avoid throttling cases.
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TaskMasterJun 6, 2022 7:32 PM
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I'd keep the L7. I keep looking to see if it pops back in stock.

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Quote from omnivor View quoted comment :
The Omen 17 chassis is a carryover from 2021, and even the Omen 15's build quality is lower than that of the Legion 5 Pro [youtu.be]. The Omen 17 will necessarily have more flex than the Omen 15 (larger means more flex), and the Legion 7 is better built than the 5 Pro. Those are objective facts. So it's only natural to say that the Legion 7 is better built than the Omen 17. This is all supported by the fact that the Legion 7 is basically all metal, whereas only the keyboard deck is on the Omen 17.

I'm not sure where you're getting that the Omen 17 has "best-in-class thermal design." It's adequate, I am sure, but it's missing one vent compared to the higher-end laptops that have 4 vents. Furthermore, it is using standard heat pipes, whereas the Legion 7 has a vapor chamber.

I have no doubt that the Omen here will trash the Legion 7 in CPU tasks, but for gaming, I doubt you'll see significant improvements. The 3080 and the 3070Ti are roughly comparable, but the Legion 7 has more VRAM and more thermal headroom to avoid throttling cases.
Have you checked any reviews of HP Omen 17 by any chance? What you're doing is just trying to force your opinion by giving some illogical and irrelevant assumptions that since HP Omen 15 has flex, 17 will have more flex. What kind of logic is that? Omen 15 is the most budget option in Omen series, below the Omen 17 and Omen 16. Do check some reviews 1st before passing your judgments based on thin air.

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