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XFX - Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Gaming Graphics Card - Black $479.99

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Powered by the AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT graphics processing unit (GPU)
With a 2581MHz boost clock speed, you are able to elevate and unify visuals and gameplay across multi-gaming platforms.

12GB GDDR6 on-board memory
Provides the memory needed to create striking visual realism.

PCI Express 4.0 interface
Offers compatibility with a range of systems.

Windows and Linux Compatable
Enables next-generation gaming.

Virtual Reality Ready
Provides a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience.

AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture
Engineered to deliver powerhouse performance for all gamers.

Direct X 12, Vulkan, Open GL, Open CL
Enhances gameplay by delivering ultrarealistic images, detail and texture and improved lighting effects that create lifelike interactivity.

HDMI and DisplayPort outputs
Enable flexible connectivity.

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Powered by the AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT graphics processing unit (GPU)
With a 2581MHz boost clock speed, you are able to elevate and unify visuals and gameplay across multi-gaming platforms.

12GB GDDR6 on-board memory
Provides the memory needed to create striking visual realism.

PCI Express 4.0 interface
Offers compatibility with a range of systems.

Windows and Linux Compatable
Enables next-generation gaming.

Virtual Reality Ready
Provides a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience.

AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture
Engineered to deliver powerhouse performance for all gamers.

Direct X 12, Vulkan, Open GL, Open CL
Enhances gameplay by delivering ultrarealistic images, detail and texture and improved lighting effects that create lifelike interactivity.

HDMI and DisplayPort outputs
Enable flexible connectivity.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-...Id=6457626

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Your_Majesty
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A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.

Edit: Correction the 6700xt is 192 Bit which is even worse.
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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.
192-bit not 198-bit. I had the pleasure of actually running a few games on this in 4K ( i didn't spend much time with this card) and as long as you've turned down the graphics settings a bit , you should be fine @ hitting 60fps especially AMD optimized games. R9 would struggle. But would definitely not recommend for 4K, 1080p this thing is a monster as long as you don't turn on RT. 1440p is good performance as well (again lower settings a bit but not as drastic as 4K settings)

Edit - And AMD just released new drivers that really improve directX 11 performance on these. NON-RT performance is beating or on par with a 3070. But with newer cards just on the horizon, i would really recommend everyone to just wait, especially because ETH is merging too. These cards will fall in prices a lot in a few months unless something comes up and with rumors of even a 4060 beating a 3080 in performance, should just wait.
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TBH, I don't trust XFX anymore since they are believed to refurbish the mining cards and re-sell them. You never know if the one you purchased got "work out" for months even years.
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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.
All 6700 xt are 192bit memory.
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I had a reference 6700 XT and it was a great 1440p card. Would not hesitate to buy it again, but this is not a fantastic price. It would be a deal at $450 or less as that's approximately it's $/performance comparatively between the 3060ti and 3070.
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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.
"may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings"

I suggest folks to go to YouTube and search for comparison videos between 6700 XT and 3070/3060 ti/6800 XT.

Lots of disinformation from this post and I don't even know where to start.
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Quote from yopming :
TBH, I don't trust XFX anymore since they are believed to refurbish the mining cards and re-sell them....
Is there any direct evidence of that?

All I have seen is reports that XFX was apparently caught mislabeling parts in large shipments through customs. That might have just been a scheme to avoid taxes or avoid detection if they were dealing with crypto miners in China. Not saying those things are good either though and if a company is shady ...

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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.
Your 290 might do 4k Duke Nukem 3D and the 580 may do Quake 1 in 4k.

Aside from the asinine comparison to the 6800 XT or 3080, this card was not intended for 4k rendering. Nonetheless, testing has shown due to the way the card uses L3 cache, the narrower bandwidth has not shown to be a limiting factor.

https://www.extremetech.com/gamin...L3%20cache

TLDR; "There's no sign that the L3 cache + 192-bit memory bus chokes the 6700 XT in realistic workloads."

Don't mislead people. Memory bandwidth is not the end-all for GPU performance.
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Quote from JimR2075 :
Is there any direct evidence of that?

All I have seen is reports that XFX was apparently caught mislabeling parts in large shipments through customs. That might have just been a scheme to avoid taxes or avoid detection if they were dealing with crypto miners in China. Not saying those things are good either though and if a company is shady ...
No direct evidence, but very possible.
Just as what you mentioned and as far as I know, there are 3 possibilities for XFX to mislabel those cards:
1. avoid taxes
2. refurbish mining cards
3. broken cards as source material. Seems impossible since the import of broken cards (considered as solid waste) had been banned starting from Jan. 1 2021 by China gov.
The announcement by XFX official only indicates they will not refurbish and re-sell the mining cards, I think that's a very poor lie which reveals the truth.
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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010).
Bragging much? You wanna give everyone $700 to buy a RX 6800 XT?Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Quote from XxExplayerxX :
A word to the wise. This card is only 198 bit in bandwidth. Information is purposely withheld from Best Buy. If you dont know anything about bandwidth interface think of it as a pipe with flowing water. The lower the number the smaller the pipe which equates to less water flowing. I have never had a card in the past 12 years that was less than 256 bit. Starting with a 5850 1GB(2010). Heck my old R9 290 is 256bit and can run some older games in 4k as long as it doesn't go over the 4GB Vram capacity and the same with my 580 as long as settings are low. This card will not flow 4k pixels due to the 198 bit bandwidth limitation and may also have trouble in 1080p on Ultra settings. Get a 6800XT or a 3080 after the new Nvidia GPUs release and when ETH is restricted from mining. You will see fire sales rolling in.
There is nothing wise about this post.
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Worth going to 6700xt from 5700xt? Or wait for new gen. I have asus tuf x570 board and 5800x
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Quote from thcbeefcake :
There is nothing wise about this post.
How so? Please explain. I would love to hear your thoughts.
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