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This is a great grinder. It's loud but it's fast and does good grinds for espressos. It's easy to clean and parts are easily replaceable if worn or break.
You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
You already have an amazing grinder and espresso machine and you're at the point of diminishing returns for sure. You'd probably have to spend a ton of money to get a marginally "better" setup and who knows if you'd even notice it in the cup. I'd recommend spending the money on exploring different beans.
Wish this was on sale when i bought my grinder. I ended up buying a breville smart grinder, which is the cheapest decent grinder for espresso, and to this day i still regret it. Hard to dial in and inconsistent in grinding size. After 1 year the burrs became more seasoned and its decent. But if you want to do espresso, i would not go cheaper than this grinder.
Invest in a better grinder rather than a more expensive espresso machine.
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This is a great grinder. It's loud but it's fast and does good grinds for espressos. It's easy to clean and parts are easily replaceable if worn or break.
You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
This is a great grinder. It's loud but it's fast and does good grinds for espressos. It's easy to clean and parts are easily replaceable if worn or break.
You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
That's definitely unfortunate to hear. Hopefully they can keep the quality and parts supply in the future. I've had a very good experience with their refurbished as well as new products. Fingers crossed and hopefully that doesn't change.
I have a baratza vario from 2012 which is awesome. Is there any point in going to one of these? I use Rancilio Silvia to make americanos and lattes primarily
Pretty great deal, if you don't mind noise.
I have the 270wi. Don't want to get to single dose debate, but the wi is awesome that I don't have to weight coffee before grinding.
I have to sette 30. The size is incremental so it's hard to 'dial in' and get the exact grind you want. I can buy The dialing part for the model above for $90 and it will fit. Might as well buy the model above.
I do get mine to dial in better by dialing between notches. Its still crude but an improvement.
I have a baratza vario from 2012 which is awesome. Is there any point in going to one of these? I use Rancilio Silvia to make americanos and lattes primarily
You already have an amazing grinder and espresso machine and you're at the point of diminishing returns for sure. You'd probably have to spend a ton of money to get a marginally "better" setup and who knows if you'd even notice it in the cup. I'd recommend spending the money on exploring different beans.
If you get one of these I have some strong beginner advice. Dialing from larger size to smaller size. Not from smaller size a larger size. Being too small is very taxing for the grinder. So you don't want to start too small and adjust up until you get it right.
Also don't fill in the grindworth beans. Just pour the amount of beans that you'll be using that that time and let it grind until it's clear.
I have a baratza vario from 2012 which is awesome. Is there any point in going to one of these? I use Rancilio Silvia to make americanos and lattes primarily
There is a reason the Vario is priced higher than the Sette. It is more versatile(you can grind for cold brew and french press) and somewhat better built. If you want weight based dosing to make your workflow faster and you will not go coarser than pour over then you can consider 'upgrading' to the 270wi but I would pass. If you are upgrading from a Vario you would need excellent taste buds and a $1000+ budget to see a significant difference in taste. For the money just replacing your burrs if they are old would give much better returns.
Wish this was on sale when i bought my grinder. I ended up buying a breville smart grinder, which is the cheapest decent grinder for espresso, and to this day i still regret it. Hard to dial in and inconsistent in grinding size. After 1 year the burrs became more seasoned and its decent. But if you want to do espresso, i would not go cheaper than this grinder.
Invest in a better grinder rather than a more expensive espresso machine.
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You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
Invest in a better grinder rather than a more expensive espresso machine.
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You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
You can either grind directly into the porta filter or cup. I noticed the scale in the wi model gives different results when switching methods, so I recommend sticking to one method.
Grind retention is low which is good.
Unfortunately the coffee giant, Breville bought them out in 2020. Hopefully Baratza continues to offer replacement parts for cheap and avoid moving the manufacturer to China like they do with their espresso machines. These grinders are still made in Taiwan and burrs from Europe I believe (please don't move manufacturing to China!!!)
Good deal though and great grinders.
I have the 270wi. Don't want to get to single dose debate, but the wi is awesome that I don't have to weight coffee before grinding.
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I do get mine to dial in better by dialing between notches. Its still crude but an improvement.
Also don't fill in the grindworth beans. Just pour the amount of beans that you'll be using that that time and let it grind until it's clear.
As for reliability, parts are cheap and easily replaceable, especially with all the Baratza how-to videos.
Invest in a better grinder rather than a more expensive espresso machine.
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Also, anyone out there upgraded from a Virtuoso+ to the Vario W+? Worth it for pour over/french press/auto machines?