Framed Ultimate Terrain Mountain Bike (Black)

iamverycrazy

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iamverycrazyJul 4, 2022 4:44 PM

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Order is placed on 6/30 noontime.
Still waiting for tracking number from CampingWorld.

Update: Just receive a tracking number this morning and ship from state of Indiana to NE (on July 5th).

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JimBanville

Jul 4, 2022 4:58 PM

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Quote from chung_chang

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Thanks for measuring! 29" is about 740mm, which is very typical width for modern mountain bikes. You can check all the name brand bikes on the web like Trek, Giant, Santa Cruz...etc and their mountain bikes would all have bars > 700mm. It is the current norm for MTB. Of course this is personal preference and no one needs to conform to the current norm. But keep that bar in case you want to sell the bike. Folks would look for wider bars on MTB.

I imagine there's also the possibility that they come with the widest bar so the owner can trim it down to their preference. It's easy with an inexpensive metal plumbing pipe cutter that clamps into the bar and you spin the tool as it cuts. I'll likely cut this bar down to at least 26".

JimBanville

Jul 4, 2022 5:04 PM

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Quote from ssavov

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Can anybody from the bike pros here or somebody that has this bike recommend a good kickstand that will fit. My 18" frame does not have a center-mounted plate for one and there is a cable running thru the opening.

Search "UHACKER Adjustable Bike Kickstand Aluminum Rear Side Bicycle Stand for Bike 22"-27" " on AMZ
That is the style you need. It clamps at a different location

JimBanville

Jul 4, 2022 5:07 PM

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Quote from ubthca11

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Anybody help adjust brakes? I was able to center easily so it wouldn't rub, but it doesn't grip hard enough and I'm unsure how/if it adjusts. Everything I'm finding online regarding hydraulic brake adjustments is about centering the caliper. Thanks!

Try rubbing down the discs with 90% (or more) alcohol. Could have oil/grease from factory on them. They may also need some use to "bed in".

ubthca11

Jul 4, 2022 5:24 PM

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Quote from JimBanville

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Try rubbing down the discs with 90% (or more) alcohol. Could have oil/grease from factory on them. They may also need some use to "bed in".

Thank you. I'll give that a shot. Are hydraulic brakes not adjustable?

molecularman

Jul 4, 2022 5:51 PM

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Mine arrived yesterday and I immediately swapped out the rims for Enve carbon with full SRAM XX1 1x groupset, and Fox 36 factory fork, carbon bar and seatpost, and Maxxis DHF/DHR tires.

lol, Okay

JimBanville

Jul 4, 2022 7:01 PM

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Quote from ubthca11

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Thank you. I'll give that a shot. Are hydraulic brakes not adjustable?

I'm no expert but most piston actuated brakes "adjust" themselves. If the rotor isn't bent, they should be fine. You shouldn't need to bleed them unless you open the system or a seal somewhere is "bad".

ubthca11

Jul 4, 2022 7:06 PM

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ubthca11Jul 4, 2022 7:06 PM

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Quote from JimBanville

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I'm no expert but most piston actuated brakes "adjust" themselves. If the rotor isn't bent, they should be fine. You shouldn't need to bleed them unless you open the system or a seal somewhere is "bad".

Makes sense. On a car, I always spray new rotor with brake clean and then "seat" the pads so perhaps you're onto something here!

chung_chang

Jul 4, 2022 7:21 PM

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chung_changJul 4, 2022 7:21 PM

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Quote from JimBanville

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I imagine there's also the possibility that they come with the widest bar so the owner can trim it down to their preference. It's easy with an inexpensive metal plumbing pipe cutter that clamps into the bar and you spin the tool as it cuts. I'll likely cut this bar down to at least 26".

You certainly can cut them down! It's not an uncommon practice for MTB bars. Many bars come with marking lines at the ends so you could cut them evenly. Typical modern MTB bars range from 700mm to 800mm. So this bike straddles the middle ground on bar width.

In your specific case, sounds like you might have bought a size too big, pushing not only your standover height over the limit, but also your reach to the bars. Compound that with this bike's XC (cross country) geometry which pushes the reach even further. If I were you, I would shorten that stem as short as possible and get a bar with a generous rise and backsweep so you wouldn't feel so stretched. Both can be had for total ~$30 on Amazon and easy to install, well worth the money for your long-term comfort.

chung_chang

Jul 4, 2022 7:30 PM

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chung_changJul 4, 2022 7:30 PM

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Quote from ubthca11

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Anybody help adjust brakes? I was able to center easily so it wouldn't rub, but it doesn't grip hard enough and I'm unsure how/if it adjusts. Everything I'm finding online regarding hydraulic brake adjustments is about centering the caliper. Thanks!

Some hydraulic brakes on MTB lets you adjust the lever reach. That's about it. A well bled hydraulic brake should feel firm and positive. If yours feel spongy and seem to travel to the grip without much resistance, you may have air in the system. Air compresses, fluid does not. You would need to get it bled. Bleed kits aren't too expensive, and plenty of YT videos on how to bleed brakes specifically for MTB. Or you can take it to a bike shop. It's not a hard DIY, and mineral oil used in these brakes aren't toxic like the DOT fluids used in car brakes.

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chung_chang

Jul 4, 2022 7:43 PM

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chung_changJul 4, 2022 7:43 PM

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Quote from ssavov

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Can anybody from the bike pros here or somebody that has this bike recommend a good kickstand that will fit. My 18" frame does not have a center-mounted plate for one and there is a cable running thru the opening.

I use this one on my gravel bike used as my commuter bike: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LNM79CQ/ Been on there for years and never failed me.

It looks very similar to the one the other guy recommended. I would install it on the chainstay on the non-drive side (side where the disc brake is), but watch that hydraulic brake line. You should have plenty of room to install it in between where the brake line splits from the chainstay, and the mount for the disc brake calipers. DO NOT clamp the brake hose inside the kickstand mount!

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chung_chang

Jul 4, 2022 8:05 PM

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chung_changJul 4, 2022 8:05 PM

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Quote from RandallDeals

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I'm not the person you are replying to but holy moly do I not understand anything you just said. I hope I didn't buy too much bike... I was hoping to just put this thing together for some simple dirt roads, gravel, and pavement.

You'll be perfectly fine on this bike doing what you do. 1x drivetrain started with mountain bike riders DIY to simplify gear shifting and adjustments. Around 10 years ago, SRAM made 1x official by introducing their first 1x drivetrain. Everyone else followed since. Even gravel bikes are starting to move to 1x. Roadies are still hanging onto 2x. Certainly lots of controversies surrounding this topic, so I won't go into it more.

JimBanville

Jul 4, 2022 10:36 PM

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JimBanvilleJul 4, 2022 10:36 PM

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Quote from chung_chang

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You certainly can cut them down! It's not an uncommon practice for MTB bars. Many bars come with marking lines at the ends so you could cut them evenly. Typical modern MTB bars range from 700mm to 800mm. So this bike straddles the middle ground on bar width.

In your specific case, sounds like you might have bought a size too big, pushing not only your standover height over the limit, but also your reach to the bars. Compound that with this bike's XC (cross country) geometry which pushes the reach even further. If I were you, I would shorten that stem as short as possible and get a bar with a generous rise and backsweep so you wouldn't feel so stretched. Both can be had for total ~$30 on Amazon and easy to install, well worth the money for your long-term comfort.

Thx. Just finished cutting 1.5" off each side of the handlebars with a metal plumbing pipe cutter I had sitting in my tool box. Much better!

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chung_chang

Jul 5, 2022 1:37 AM

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Quote from JimBanville

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Thx. Just finished cutting 1.5" off each side of the handlebars with a metal plumbing pipe cutter I had sitting in my tool box. Much better!

That is awesome! You got me thinking about health issues related to MTB bar width. People are just running wider and wider bars, and I always thought there's got to be a limit on how wide a human body could handle. So I searched YT and ran across this video from over a year ago that explains health concerns in relation to bar width that most other MTB videos never go into. In short, the general rule is you should not go over a calculated width based on your height. Their calculation is your height in cm x 4.4. Then change the result into mm and that would be the maximum bar width you should run without risking health issues.

For example, I'm 5'8.5" which is ~174cm. Multiply that by 4.4 to get 765.6. This means I should not run more than 765mm wide bars. I usually run 720mm bars so well within health safety limits.

For my daughter who's 5'3", I used common sense a while back to let her run 680mm bars. I just figured shorter person should run narrower bar. I'm glad I did as her maximum based on this calculation would be 705mm.

Thought I share this enlightening video, learn something new everyday: https://youtu.be/xMXlKED32uo

I welcome any counterpoints with details to back it up.

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zuhl

Jul 5, 2022 4:47 AM

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zuhlJul 5, 2022 4:47 AM

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Quote from chung_chang

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What the other guy said. If you yank out the left shifter and front derailleur, and keep the chain in the middle chainring, you technically have a 1x without spending a dime. But that is not how most people define a modern 1x MTB. A typical 1x budget setup on a 29'er is 1x10 -- 30t narrow/wide chainring up front, 11-42t HG cassette in the rear, and clutched rear derailleur. On my daily budget 27.5 MTB, I run 1x11 -- 34t oval chainring, 11-42t cassette, non-clutched budget derailleur. No chain drops and no issues climbing the steepest hills on my local green trails. I wrapped the chainstay to protect it from chain slaps.

On this bike, to do a 1x conversion like above, you would need to upgrade the rear to freehub, and upgrade the crankset as the 3 chainrings on the stock crankset are riveted together. On a tight budget and knowing where to shop, you could get a rear freehub wheel, 1x10 cassette, hollow crankset, narrow/wide chainring, non-clutched rear derailleur, shifter and chain all for < $250 brand new. Of course you would need all the right tools for this job if you plan on DIY.

Thanks! I bought a sram sx on Ali express and did my Felt 3x a fee years ago. Wasn't too bad. But I didn't have to change hub. I dont know where to find that

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