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The biggest and main advantage with LiFePO4 when compared to Lion is charge cycles but the capacity on this is so humongous that the average user will probabaly charge it less than once a week, probaby less than that but to be safe we will go with that number. So lets say 50 times a year and the average LiOn can be charged 500 times at the very low end, a lot will easily do 1500 or even 2000. A little math and that gives the end user a 10 year ifespan but probably even closer to 20 to 30 years to most non-diedhard users. Dont forget thats only to 80% capacity, the battery will function just fine after 500 cycles just less capacity, but again, on this model the capacity is so big than 80% of it is originall is still gobs of power. This product to an average user should give 15 plusyears at the low end but probable 20 to 30 years of use for the average user. Also the one thing than LiFePO4 doesn't beat LiIon is energy density which is the main reason why the E-bike world still uses Li-ion. You get the same energy with less weight wit Li-ion and thats something that needs to be considered when talking bout a portable piece of equipment, which this item is its main focus actually. This product would be much smaller and lighter if using IOION and its getting veryclose to not being able to call it 'portable' anymore. A small person will not like hauling this mammoth is it used LiFpo4. So The main point of what Im saying is Ilion is to not be confused about LiFePO4 as inferior to LiFePO4 because its not, its jut different with its own pros and cons. Anothert big pro to LiFePO4 is its safer than lion and it is but in todays world, all these products have the neccessary safefty features on them that ppl that you can leave that out of the reasons you should base buying one of these units on. by the way I own a pecron 1500s which is a basically 1400Amp Hrs and is tiny. the size of a large 2 slice toaster. It also has1500 charge cycles till 80% capacity. i use it so much I love it. I probably wouldnt love it so much tho if it was bigger or heavier.. Hmmm
Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
How do you get this repaired after it breaks. Mine broke 3 months after buying it and Walmart said to contact the seller that is no longer around,probly changed there name. 400 dollar paper weight. Mine no longer holds a charge
For the average user, I think Lifepo4 is worth it simply because you can charge it up to 100% and leave it alone for months (ie in emergency) without worrying about degradation. WIth NCA,etc you need to make sure to charge up to only 80-90% and Lifepo4 is also less of a fire hazard.
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I almost pulled the trigger but It has regular Lithium-ion Batteries. You would think they would be discontinued by now.
The biggest and main advantage with LiFePO4 when compared to Lion is charge cycles but the capacity on this is so humongous that the average user will probabaly charge it less than once a week, probaby less than that but to be safe we will go with that number. So lets say 50 times a year and the average LiOn can be charged 500 times at the very low end, a lot will easily do 1500 or even 2000. A little math and that gives the end user a 10 year ifespan but probably even closer to 20 to 30 years to most non-diedhard users. Dont forget thats only to 80% capacity, the battery will function just fine after 500 cycles just less capacity, but again, on this model the capacity is so big than 80% of it is originall is still gobs of power. This product to an average user should give 15 plusyears at the low end but probable 20 to 30 years of use for the average user. Also the one thing than LiFePO4 doesn't beat LiIon is energy density which is the main reason why the E-bike world still uses Li-ion. You get the same energy with less weight wit Li-ion and thats something that needs to be considered when talking bout a portable piece of equipment, which this item is its main focus actually. This product would be much smaller and lighter if using IOION and its getting veryclose to not being able to call it 'portable' anymore. A small person will not like hauling this mammoth is it used LiFpo4. So The main point of what Im saying is Ilion is to not be confused about LiFePO4 as inferior to LiFePO4 because its not, its jut different with its own pros and cons. Anothert big pro to LiFePO4 is its safer than lion and it is but in todays world, all these products have the neccessary safefty features on them that ppl that you can leave that out of the reasons you should base buying one of these units on. by the way I own a pecron 1500s which is a basically 1400Amp Hrs and is tiny. the size of a large 2 slice toaster. It also has1500 charge cycles till 80% capacity. i use it so much I love it. I probably wouldnt love it so much tho if it was bigger or heavier.. Hmmm
Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
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Probably just a mistake seeing that the truth is so easily found and available. Only an idiot would straight out lie about something that is so easy to debunk. Just my thought tho.
They are saying its a 3.7V battery, so 300ah would be 1110Wh. It's a weird battery size though for a power station.
It certainly does not have a 3.7V battery but at least three cells in series or more. But the manufacturers of bigger power stations or the jump starters for cars often times give the 3.7V (single cell) equivalent so that people can compare it to normal power banks.
Most buyers are probably more familiar with something like a 10,000mAh power bank than with a rating in Wh.
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The biggest and main advantage with LiFePO4 when compared to Lion is charge cycles but the capacity on this is so humongous that the average user will probabaly charge it less than once a week, probaby less than that but to be safe we will go with that number. So lets say 50 times a year and the average LiOn can be charged 500 times at the very low end, a lot will easily do 1500 or even 2000. A little math and that gives the end user a 10 year ifespan but probably even closer to 20 to 30 years to most non-diedhard users. Dont forget thats only to 80% capacity, the battery will function just fine after 500 cycles just less capacity, but again, on this model the capacity is so big than 80% of it is originall is still gobs of power. This product to an average user should give 15 plusyears at the low end but probable 20 to 30 years of use for the average user. Also the one thing than LiFePO4 doesn't beat LiIon is energy density which is the main reason why the E-bike world still uses Li-ion. You get the same energy with less weight wit Li-ion and thats something that needs to be considered when talking bout a portable piece of equipment, which this item is its main focus actually. This product would be much smaller and lighter if using IOION and its getting veryclose to not being able to call it 'portable' anymore. A small person will not like hauling this mammoth is it used LiFpo4. So The main point of what Im saying is Ilion is to not be confused about LiFePO4 as inferior to LiFePO4 because its not, its jut different with its own pros and cons. Anothert big pro to LiFePO4 is its safer than lion and it is but in todays world, all these products have the neccessary safefty features on them that ppl that you can leave that out of the reasons you should base buying one of these units on. by the way I own a pecron 1500s which is a basically 1400Amp Hrs and is tiny. the size of a large 2 slice toaster. It also has1500 charge cycles till 80% capacity. i use it so much I love it. I probably wouldnt love it so much tho if it was bigger or heavier.. Hmmm
Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
For the average user, I think Lifepo4 is worth it simply because you can charge it up to 100% and leave it alone for months (ie in emergency) without worrying about degradation. WIth NCA,etc you need to make sure to charge up to only 80-90% and Lifepo4 is also less of a fire hazard.
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Note that peak watts is 2000w (good). On the other hand display will turn off after 20 seconds of non-use (very short time). Also, it doesn't have a % field so you have to look at the battery marks and guess how much has been discharged.
Overall, this is a decent price for a battery of this size but the software interface leaves a lot to be desired. The new Bluetti is much more advanced but also costs much more.
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The biggest and main advantage with LiFePO4 when compared to Lion is charge cycles but the capacity on this is so humongous that the average user will probabaly charge it less than once a week, probaby less than that but to be safe we will go with that number. So lets say 50 times a year and the average LiOn can be charged 500 times at the very low end, a lot will easily do 1500 or even 2000. A little math and that gives the end user a 10 year ifespan but probably even closer to 20 to 30 years to most non-diedhard users. Dont forget thats only to 80% capacity, the battery will function just fine after 500 cycles just less capacity, but again, on this model the capacity is so big than 80% of it is originall is still gobs of power. This product to an average user should give 15 plusyears at the low end but probable 20 to 30 years of use for the average user. Also the one thing than LiFePO4 doesn't beat LiIon is energy density which is the main reason why the E-bike world still uses Li-ion. You get the same energy with less weight wit Li-ion and thats something that needs to be considered when talking bout a portable piece of equipment, which this item is its main focus actually. This product would be much smaller and lighter if using IOION and its getting veryclose to not being able to call it 'portable' anymore. A small person will not like hauling this mammoth is it used LiFpo4. So The main point of what Im saying is Ilion is to not be confused about LiFePO4 as inferior to LiFePO4 because its not, its jut different with its own pros and cons. Anothert big pro to LiFePO4 is its safer than lion and it is but in todays world, all these products have the neccessary safefty features on them that ppl that you can leave that out of the reasons you should base buying one of these units on. by the way I own a pecron 1500s which is a basically 1400Amp Hrs and is tiny. the size of a large 2 slice toaster. It also has1500 charge cycles till 80% capacity. i use it so much I love it. I probably wouldnt love it so much tho if it was bigger or heavier.. Hmmm
Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
Imagine if you can charge it 6 times more. The difference isn't just double but very significant.
But that's not really the issue here. It is the safety that you should be concerned of. This is a cheap Chinese product using LiIon, what could go wrong? Getting this thing on fire. A Chinese product using a very unstable battery chemistry is something you have to consider. lf this is a Chinese product using a very safe and stable battery chemistry like the LiFePo4 then you have a bit peace of mind. Remember, this humongous size of a LiIon battery, once it caught on fire, you will not be able to stop the fire. You will just have to wait until it burns itself out. And the fire it makes has high heat intensity, sparks and what not and you may be able to escape that but the poisonous lithium fumes may still hunt you.
If you really want LiIon batteries, buy it with reputable manufacturers that follows safety standards other than that, just avoid it like a plague and just go with LiFePo4. You get 6 times charge cycle and you will keep your house from burning.
What is your proof they are lying? Do you own one. The official manual restates that it is 3.7V, 300Ah.
But there are 3.7v cells is series to make 12v battery , no way this works at 3.7 volts , inverters don't work at 3.7volts , solar charge controllers don't work at 3.7 volts, so the battery pack in this is 1100 watt hours at 12volts more like 14volts someone less amp hours , look at a 12v 100ah batter and a 24v 100.ah battery they are the same ah but the 24v one is twice the number of batteries , so yes 3.4volt is 300 ah but you need 4 of them to make a 12volt battery. 12v at 1100 wh is 92 amp hours
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Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
Most buyers are probably more familiar with something like a 10,000mAh power bank than with a rating in Wh.
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Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
For the average user, I think Lifepo4 is worth it simply because you can charge it up to 100% and leave it alone for months (ie in emergency) without worrying about degradation. WIth NCA,etc you need to make sure to charge up to only 80-90% and Lifepo4 is also less of a fire hazard.
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That is a link to the very small manual.
Note that peak watts is 2000w (good). On the other hand display will turn off after 20 seconds of non-use (very short time). Also, it doesn't have a % field so you have to look at the battery marks and guess how much has been discharged.
Overall, this is a decent price for a battery of this size but the software interface leaves a lot to be desired. The new Bluetti is much more advanced but also costs much more.
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Bottom line is wheither this unit was liIon or iLiFePO4, it doesnt matter much when considering all the pros and cons and what the normal user needs out of it. There nothing wrong with LiIon and its not an inferior chemistry, its just a different chemistry. Both of these chemistrys already last so long than there will be a bettery chemistry than both of these before either type of these are considered non-useable anyways. LOL
But that's not really the issue here. It is the safety that you should be concerned of. This is a cheap Chinese product using LiIon, what could go wrong? Getting this thing on fire. A Chinese product using a very unstable battery chemistry is something you have to consider. lf this is a Chinese product using a very safe and stable battery chemistry like the LiFePo4 then you have a bit peace of mind. Remember, this humongous size of a LiIon battery, once it caught on fire, you will not be able to stop the fire. You will just have to wait until it burns itself out. And the fire it makes has high heat intensity, sparks and what not and you may be able to escape that but the poisonous lithium fumes may still hunt you.
If you really want LiIon batteries, buy it with reputable manufacturers that follows safety standards other than that, just avoid it like a plague and just go with LiFePo4. You get 6 times charge cycle and you will keep your house from burning.
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