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Philips 4300 Series Lattego Superautomatic Espresso Machine
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It's easily one of the best features for the uninitiated or lazy like myself.
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I stick to one local brand, but idk if small variances each time I buy the bag will require me to change?
FWIW, sample size one, I can get within ~10% of the taste of my local $7 latte shop with their beans in my 3200, and the cost savings / convenience is well worth it. IMO, the diminishing returns as you go up in machine price and maintenance make these $4-700 machines the sweet spot, but coffee is highly personal.
Don't know what drink you're comparing to your local shop, but I can tell you the espresso in this thing is only good for milk drinks. As straight shot is disgustingly weak and tasteless. I have a manual espresso machine that we use when we want a real espresso and the difference is not 10% like you said, but more like 110%
And don't get me wrong. We love our LatteGo and use it all the time - just not for espresso
Don't know what drink you're comparing to your local shop, but I can tell you the espresso in this thing is only good for milk drinks. As straight shot is disgustingly weak and tasteless. I have a manual espresso machine that we use when we want a real espresso and the difference is not 10% like you said, but more like 110%
And don't get me wrong. We love our LatteGo and use it all the time - just not for espressos
Diving further into this through quick research seems gaggio classic pro (or prestige) and rancilio silvia are the go-to for good espresso, vs breville bambino/express.
Don't know what drink you're comparing to your local shop, but I can tell you the espresso in this thing is only good for milk drinks. As straight shot is disgustingly weak and tasteless. I have a manual espresso machine that we use when we want a real espresso and the difference is not 10% like you said, but more like 110%
And don't get me wrong. We love our LatteGo and use it all the time - just not for espresso
Diving further into this through quick research seems gaggio classic pro (or prestige) and rancilio silvia are the go-to for good espresso, vs breville bambino/express.
In the espresso world, upgrades that will allow you more control and/or precision on the espresso brewing process: shower screens to allow for more evenly distributed water to your coffee bed, precision baskets to allow for optimal even coffee extraction, PID for temperature control, portafilters in general, etc.
The biggest factor is having a grinder that's capable of grinding fine enough to allow proper espresso extraction to venture into non-pressurized (single wall) baskets. You'll run into features such as retention, clumping, stepless (allow very, very small adjustments to grind fineness), etc. If you do want to venture into the semi-auto world the right way (with a grinder that allows for espresso quality grinds), you'd expect another $300 at a minimum new to start. Baratza's Sette 30 is a good start at $300, but even better to add a stepless dial for another $100.
Someone else will have to chime in on other grinder options, such as manual hand grinders which may be a cheaper starting point, but can't speak on that realm personally.
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Important Information: https://www.documents.p
This document covers the obvious about not using caramelized or flavored coffee beans. The added flavorings will def damage the grinder due to that added gunk coated to flavored beans.
The document also details to regularly maintain the machine in general, or else warranty is voided. This should include maintenance of the grinder. There is no specific mention on oiliness of beans.
User Manual: https://www.documents.p
I didn't see anything covering the type of beans to use. From my good understanding, oily beans should definitely be avoided, as from a read, there's little to no way to properly clean the grinder built into this, without possibly complicated disassembly. Additionally, also avoid light roast beans due to the taste this machine will produce will be….. "bright." Aka, extremely sour and underextracted just due to the nature of the beans and what's needed to properly extract espresso from light roasts.
In the espresso world, upgrades that will allow you more control and/or precision on the espresso brewing process: shower screens to allow for more evenly distributed water to your coffee bed, precision baskets to allow for optimal even coffee extraction, PID for temperature control, portafilters in general, etc.
The biggest factor is having a grinder that's capable of grinding fine enough to allow proper espresso extraction to venture into non-pressurized (single wall) baskets. You'll run into features such as retention, clumping, stepless (allow very, very small adjustments to grind fineness), etc. If you do want to venture into the semi-auto world the right way (with a grinder that allows for espresso quality grinds), you'd expect another $300 at a minimum new to start. Baratza's Sette 30 is a good start at $300, but even better to add a stepless dial for another $100.
Someone else will have to chime in on other grinder options, such as manual hand grinders which may be a cheaper starting point, but can't speak on that realm personally.
If you choose to dive deeper with a Rancilio Silvia, you may likely understand the limitations of your current grinder if you decide to dive even deeper in the rabbit hole.
Hope that kinda hits the high level points to help guide you.
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If you choose to dive deeper with a Rancilio Silvia, you may likely understand the limitations of your current grinder if you decide to dive even deeper in the rabbit hole.
Hope that kinda hits the high level points to help guide you.
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