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Schwinn Axum mountain bike - Large frame (19"), 29" Wheels - $348 - Free shipping

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Walmart.com has Schwinn Axum Large frame (19") mountain bike in black and blue for $348.
That's a $100 savings from the regular price.
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This one one of the best value entry level hardtails. The components are less than ideal but the frame is upgradable. You can ride it as is, and upgrade the components in the future. Check out various reviews on youtube on this bike.
The only downside of this deal is that the frame is only in large size, good for someone around 6 foot tall.
If you are around 6' tall and want to try mountain biking and don't want to spend too much money on it, this is the bike you might consider.

Some of the features:
- 29" 2.6 wheels
- tapered head tube
- 1 by 8 drivetrain (cassette)
- mechanical disk brakes
- internal cable routing for the seat dropper post

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Schwin...hbdg=L1100
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Walmart.com has Schwinn Axum Large frame (19") mountain bike in black and blue for $348.
That's a $100 savings from the regular price.
Shipping is free

This one one of the best value entry level hardtails. The components are less than ideal but the frame is upgradable. You can ride it as is, and upgrade the components in the future. Check out various reviews on youtube on this bike.
The only downside of this deal is that the frame is only in large size, good for someone around 6 foot tall.
If you are around 6' tall and want to try mountain biking and don't want to spend too much money on it, this is the bike you might consider.

Some of the features:
- 29" 2.6 wheels
- tapered head tube
- 1 by 8 drivetrain (cassette)
- mechanical disk brakes
- internal cable routing for the seat dropper post

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Schwin...hbdg=L1100

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Model: Schwinn Axum Mountain Bike, 8 Speeds, Large 19 -Inch Men's Style Frame, 29-Inch Wheels, Blue

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Jul 28, 2022 09:32 PM
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YuY8720Jul 28, 2022 09:32 PM
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Quote from MrDealYoGurl :
Can anyone give any insight to this compared to the Boss Three 700cc that Costco sells? Honestly just going to be using this to ride around the neighborhood and maybe to the grocery store. No more than a 2 miles at a time. I'm 6'1 for reference. Also open to any other suggestions in the price range and lower for my needs. Haven't used a bike since college because I didn't have a car and would always go to Walmart and get something for $150 or so that would last me through the winters and those were fine for my needs
I had this bike, size is good for u if u r 6'. Not so good for trail ride if u need to climb steep uphill. The gears there r not enough. 2.6 wide tyres give u lots of resistance on flat road. Can't really ride fast. But ok traction on trail
Jul 29, 2022 12:28 AM
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KevinO2208Jul 29, 2022 12:28 AM
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Quote from YuY8720 :
I had this bike, size is good for u if u r 6'. Not so good for trail ride if u need to climb steep uphill. The gears there r not enough. 2.6 wide tyres give u lots of resistance on flat road. Can't really ride fast. But ok traction on trail
I'm 5'5" ride the medium version but yeah large would be at least 5'10". The Stock tires are fast rolling for how wide they are, I put on skinnier grippier tires and slowed down considerably. I might put on the stock tires because they grip good and are fast rolling. The stock gearing yeah would be a little hard for a beginner on the steep hills but they'll adapt fast but I rode with the stock cassette and got a larger chainring and it still climbs really good compared to my other bikes.
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Jul 29, 2022 03:16 PM
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osugsxrJul 29, 2022 03:16 PM
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Quote from MrDealYoGurl :
Can anyone give any insight to this compared to the Boss Three 700cc that Costco sells? Honestly just going to be using this to ride around the neighborhood and maybe to the grocery store. No more than a 2 miles at a time. I'm 6'1 for reference. Also open to any other suggestions in the price range and lower for my needs. Haven't used a bike since college because I didn't have a car and would always go to Walmart and get something for $150 or so that would last me through the winters and those were fine for my needs

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Jul 29, 2022 06:30 PM
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Jul 29, 2022 06:30 PM
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Quote from cmbezln :
I feel like there's a lot of discussion about price and comparing this to other bike store brands, but nobody is talking about how easy it is to get an incredible bike for next to nothing in the used marketplace. Especially mountain bikes since people get big aspirations and then end up only using them once or twice. For $400 you can get quite a bit of bike used, especially a hardtail

hell for a few hundred bucks more you can a marin palisades trail 2 from jenson USA

https://www.jensonusa.com/Marin-P...-Bike-2021
I don't know where you live but here in SF bay area, $400 doesn't get you much these days. Mostly overpriced old or even new junk. Of course a deal might pop up now and then but you basically have to be on craigslist/marketplace 24/7 to actually get it. No thanks.

Now that Marin bikes seems like a decent deal and it might work for some.
For me Axum works out better. I'm 6' tall so I'm looking for a 29er. Axum can be upgraded with budget hydraulic brakes (e.g. Shimano MT200 or similar Tektros that Marin has) for around $100. Fork can be upgraded to something similar that the Marin has for around $200. That brings Axum to about the same price as this Marin, but it already has a 1x drivetrain, tapered head tube and 29" wheels. Yes, the Marin has Shimano groupset, but sooner or later you'll be upgrading to something that has a clutch (unless you ride this on flat trails), so I wouldn't give the Marin a huge advantage on that front. Also, the Marin has $75 oversize charge.

I was really skeptical about bikes sold at Walmart including this Schwinn, but after seeing a bunch of reviews on youtube, I'm sold on it. I think it's great for the consumer that you can actually buy a decent budget hardtail for less than $400 at Walmart.
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Jul 29, 2022 06:54 PM
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99ways2dieJul 29, 2022 06:54 PM
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
... The stock gearing yeah would be a little hard for a beginner on the steep hills but they'll adapt fast ...
...to what, walking the bike up the hill?
LoL

Not knocking the product here, but we both/all know that the gearing here is very limited.
Hope none of the potential buyers of this bike have "serious MTB/climbing" in mind.
Otherwise, this is a fine "throw away" begging bike.
Not everyone needs a $2K+ MTB, but I sure hope that most don't consider this a vastly upgradable platform. Use it for what it is, then when you know you've outgrown it, move on and up with your new found knowledge and experience to "proper" MTB equipment.

Will you have less fun on a $400 bike than on a $4000 one?
Perhaps even more!....that is until your bottom of the barrel bike can't handle a situation, and you end up fighting it and yourself (thus no longer enjoying the process), or worse, hurt yourself b/c of it's limitations/performance.

No matter what any one of you spends on a bike, buy a decent, and wear a damn helmet when "off roading:...especially if you're just starting out.
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Jul 29, 2022 07:08 PM
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jimx200Jul 29, 2022 07:08 PM
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Quote from extra :
I don't know where you live but here in SF bay area, $400 doesn't get you much these days. Mostly overpriced old or even new junk. Of course a deal might pop up now and then but you basically have to be on craigslist/marketplace 24/7 to actually get it. No thanks.

Now that Marin bikes seems like a decent deal and it might work for some.
For me Axum works out better. I'm 6' tall so I'm looking for a 29er. Axum can be upgraded with budget hydraulic brakes (e.g. Shimano MT200 or similar Tektros that Marin has) for around $100. Fork can be upgraded to something similar that the Marin has for around $200. That brings Axum to about the same price as this Marin, but it already has a 1x drivetrain, tapered head tube and 29" wheels. Yes, the Marin has Shimano groupset, but sooner or later you'll be upgrading to something that has a clutch (unless you ride this on flat trails), so I wouldn't give the Marin a huge advantage on that front. Also, the Marin has $75 oversize charge.

I was really skeptical about bikes sold at Walmart including this Schwinn, but after seeing a bunch of reviews on youtube, I'm sold on it. I think it's great for the consumer that you can actually buy a decent budget hardtail for less than $400 at Walmart.
The Marin bike stomps all over the generic WM bike that uses house brand hubs, wheels, seat post. Clutch?? I don't think you ride trails, let alone mt's. You did not factor in the labor charge on changing out parts. When one is tired of the Axium, it's a $100. bike at best on Craigslist. As a fyi, the 2.5 wheels are more and more the sweet spot. Go visit a real bike shop (not a Dicks or WM) and see. EDIT: the Marin has the RockShox Judy Silver TK and that's a great mid tier susp.
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Jul 29, 2022 07:29 PM
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KevinO2208Jul 29, 2022 07:29 PM
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Bro, I went up a 11.8% grade with the stock Axum the first time I took it up on local trails, you're exaggerating. Pulled a faster PR time on Strava also. The stock fork and brakes are fine for anything below a black trail (which I took the Axum on after I upgraded the fork with stock brakes).

Not upgradeable? I put on a boost Markhor which slackened the headtube angle to 65 degrees and run a 29x3.0 DHF on a Duraroc 36 mm wheel. The stock rear wheel is 30 mm and has withstood multiple black trails and a bike park day. I also upgraded the drivetrain to Advent X with clutch and people have done Deore 11 speeds on it. I also have 4-piston SRAM hydraulics Im putting on soon but the stock brakes are usable even at the bike park. I've ridden this thing with stock brakes and drivetrain at a bike park and black trails with the fork upgrade and it did fine. My friend with a Roscoe laughed at me until he saw the Axum in person and hasn't talked crap since because it has a better geo than his (only the most recent Roscoe have a thru Axle rear - they have a 141 mm boost QR like the Axum before that) and he paid $2k for it while my build only cost $1100 so far and has a better geometry.

My next upgrade after installing the brakes is upgrading the rear wheel with a better hub but that will only be like $200-250 - I'll come out with a bike with better geometry and brakes than the Trek Roscoe for close to $800 less.


Quote from 99ways2die :
...to what, walking the bike up the hill?
LoL

Not knocking the product here, but we both/all know that the gearing here is very limited.
Hope none of the potential buyers of this bike have "serious MTB/climbing" in mind.
Otherwise, this is a fine "throw away" begging bike.
Not everyone needs a $2K+ MTB, but I sure hope that most don't consider this a vastly upgradable platform. Use it for what it is, then when you know you've outgrown it, move on and up with your new found knowledge and experience to "proper" MTB equipment.

Will you have less fun on a $400 bike than on a $4000 one?
Perhaps even more!....that is until your bottom of the barrel bike can't handle a situation, and you end up fighting it and yourself (thus no longer enjoying the process), or worse, hurt yourself b/c of it's limitations/performance.

No matter what any one of you spends on a bike, buy a decent, and wear a damn helmet when "off roading:...especially if you're just starting out.
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Jul 29, 2022 07:45 PM
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KevinO2208Jul 29, 2022 07:45 PM
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Quote from jimx200 :
The Marin bike stomps all over the generic WM bike that uses house brand hubs, wheels, seat post. Clutch?? I don't think you ride trails, let alone mt's. You did not factor in the labor charge on changing out parts. When one is tired of the Axium, it's a $100. bike at best on Craigslist. As a fyi, the 2.5 wheels are more and more the sweet spot. Go visit a real bike shop (not a Dicks or WM) and see. EDIT: the Marin has the RockShox Judy Silver TK and that's a great mid tier susp.
The Marin uses house brand Marin wheels and hubs which you have no idea the quality of. I took the Axum to multiple black trails and a bike park and the rear wheel has had 0 issues so far.

Now lets look at the frame - straight tube head tube so you're limited in your fork options. Non-boost spacing so you can't fit nearly as wide a tire as the Axum can. The geometry is very similar to the axum, with a 1 degree steeper seat tube angle and that's pretty much the only thing it has over the Axum.

The fork is better - but it's still just a coil fork like the Axum's and won't be much use over anything but moderate blue trails, just like the Axum's.

The stock Axum derailleur is an Altus clone and shifts just as well, I know because I have a Specialized bike with the same derailleur.

Tektro M275s arent that great, they're not much of an upgrade vs the stock Axum brakes. Google it, a lot of reviews are saying they're not much of an upgrade over mechanical brakes with some saying they're on the same level.

The Axum is almost half the cost, has wider wheels, a similar derailleur and fork, slightly worse brakes and can fit much wider tires and has a tapered headtube that can fit modern forks without adapters - I don't see how you can claim the Marin "stomps" when it loses in price, allow-able tire width, straight headtube and only has a slightly better fork, brakes, and just a brand name derailleur that I can confirm is on the same level as the Axum's.
Last edited by KevinO2208 July 29, 2022 at 02:01 PM.
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Jul 29, 2022 08:24 PM
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KevinO2208Jul 29, 2022 08:24 PM
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Quote from extra :
I don't know where you live but here in SF bay area, $400 doesn't get you much these days. Mostly overpriced old or even new junk. Of course a deal might pop up now and then but you basically have to be on craigslist/marketplace 24/7 to actually get it. No thanks.

Now that Marin bikes seems like a decent deal and it might work for some.
For me Axum works out better. I'm 6' tall so I'm looking for a 29er. Axum can be upgraded with budget hydraulic brakes (e.g. Shimano MT200 or similar Tektros that Marin has) for around $100. Fork can be upgraded to something similar that the Marin has for around $200. That brings Axum to about the same price as this Marin, but it already has a 1x drivetrain, tapered head tube and 29" wheels. Yes, the Marin has Shimano groupset, but sooner or later you'll be upgrading to something that has a clutch (unless you ride this on flat trails), so I wouldn't give the Marin a huge advantage on that front. Also, the Marin has $75 oversize charge.

I was really skeptical about bikes sold at Walmart including this Schwinn, but after seeing a bunch of reviews on youtube, I'm sold on it. I think it's great for the consumer that you can actually buy a decent budget hardtail for less than $400 at Walmart.
The Tektro M275s have bad reviews on the forums, some are saying they're on the same level as mechanicals. If you get the Axum the stock brakes are actually decent (180 mm front rotor also), I have XT hydraulics and MT201s on other bikes so I can compare. If you're not doing black trails or bike parks the stock brakes are enough (I still took it to the bike park with the stock brakes lol but dont recommend), but I recently put on a TRP Spyke on the Axum until I have time to install some SRAM 4-pistons I have - the TRP Spyke might be enough for you, esp if you have them front and rear with good brake pads.

The Marin has an Altus derailleur which is on the same level as the Axum's derailleur, I have an Altus on another bike and can confirm - the stock derailleur is actually very crisp and I only dropped the chain once and it only happened off a big curb, not once did it drop on the black trail and at the bike park but I have since upgraded to an Advent X with a clutch just for more range, but if you're not doing much climbing the stock derailleur is good enough.

The stock tires are actually very good and fast rolling, I regret upgrading to DHF/DHR because the bike slowed down a lot, I'm considering putting the stock tires back on just because I ride blue trails mostly with the Axum.

The stock fork isn't great, but it does work, it's enough for blue trails but yeah you mentioned a fork upgrade. I have a boost Markhour on mine and it handled bike park and actually felt better than my Polygon D7's Recon Silver fork on a black trail if you're still deciding.

TLDR; Axum stock can handle blue trails stock, if you want to do black trails and bike park a fork and brake upgrade are a must. Stock tires and derailleur are good enough.
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Jul 29, 2022 10:10 PM
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jimx200Jul 29, 2022 10:10 PM
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
The Marin uses house brand Marin wheels and hubs which you have no idea the quality of. I took the Axum to multiple black trails and a bike park and the rear wheel has had 0 issues so far.

Now lets look at the frame - straight tube head tube so you're limited in your fork options. Non-boost spacing so you can't fit nearly as wide a tire as the Axum can. The geometry is very similar to the axum, with a 1 degree steeper seat tube angle and that's pretty much the only thing it has over the Axum.

The fork is better - but it's still just a coil fork like the Axum's and won't be much use over anything but moderate blue trails, just like the Axum's.

The stock Axum derailleur is an Altus clone and shifts just as well, I know because I have a Specialized bike with the same derailleur.

Tektro M275s arent that great, they're not much of an upgrade vs the stock Axum brakes. Google it, a lot of reviews are saying they're not much of an upgrade over mechanical brakes with some saying they're on the same level.

The Axum is almost half the cost, has wider wheels, a similar derailleur and fork, slightly worse brakes and can fit much wider tires and has a tapered headtube that can fit modern forks without adapters - I don't see how you can claim the Marin "stomps" when it loses in price, allow-able tire width, straight headtube and only has a slightly better fork, brakes, and just a brand name derailleur that I can confirm is on the same level as the Axum's.

LOL..as a fyi, the RockShox Judy Silver TK is an air shock and not a coil shock and a bi upgrade over the non name Wally World susp.. Marin wheelset and hubs are a big jump up in quality too vs the Schwinn. I saw this Axium in a WM and it's cheaply made, not worth the $348 and I would not touch it at $200. It even has a generic no name crank. If one can't afford the Marin or the Bikesdirect hardtails, I would find a used Specialized, Giant, Marin, etc bike from a proven company and get way more quality than the WM bike. Btw, is a bike park like a skate board park? Never seen one here in CA.
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Jul 29, 2022 11:20 PM
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KevinO2208Jul 29, 2022 11:20 PM
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Quote from jimx200 :
LOL..as a fyi, the RockShox Judy Silver TK is an air shock and not a coil shock and a bi upgrade over the non name Wally World susp.. Marin wheelset and hubs are a big jump up in quality too vs the Schwinn. I saw this Axium in a WM and it's cheaply made, not worth the $348 and I would not touch it at $200. It even has a generic no name crank. If one can't afford the Marin or the Bikesdirect hardtails, I would find a used Specialized, Giant, Marin, etc bike from a proven company and get way more quality than the WM bike. Btw, is a bike park like a skate board park? Never seen one here in CA.
Nope the solo version is air - there's a coil version also which this one likely has, it doesn't state anywhere that it's an air fork. Here is the bike park I took the Axum to with stock brakes, crank and rear wheel: https://youtu.be/DK5kx-w_WF8
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jimx200Jul 30, 2022 12:16 AM
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
Nope the solo version is air - there's a coil version also which this one likely has, it doesn't state anywhere that it's an air fork. Here is the bike park I took the Axum to with stock brakes, crank and rear wheel: https://youtu.be/DK5kx-w_WF8
Here's what we often ride and a big difference from a groomed bike park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8CuopGkO54
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Jul 30, 2022 01:38 AM
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KevinO2208Jul 30, 2022 01:38 AM
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Quote from jimx200 :
Here's what we often ride and a big difference from a groomed bike park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8CuopGkO54
The point was to show you the Axum can handle big drops/jumps - the local black trails are like yours look up Bonelli trail, again another trail I took the near stock Axum.
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