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Select Utility Companies: Google Nest Thermostat

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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.

Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.

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  • Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):

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  • About this deal:
    • Please refer to forum thread for additional qualifying Utility Companies participating in this offer, as well as deal discussion.
    • Offer valid for a limited time.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.

Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.

Offer Notes:
  • Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Please refer to forum thread for additional qualifying Utility Companies participating in this offer, as well as deal discussion.
    • Offer valid for a limited time.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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djagger
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I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.

First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.

Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.

I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.

My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
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djagger
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You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.

It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.

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Aug 05, 2022 05:43 PM
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ChocoboAug 05, 2022 05:43 PM
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Weird, it shows $49.99 for the Nest thermostat here, I add it to cart $49.99, I go to check out and it jumps up to $129.99.
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Aug 05, 2022 05:56 PM
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WhatIsSlickingAug 05, 2022 05:56 PM
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How long will it take to receive the item from pseg Long Island ?

Worth 55 for the basic nest
Aug 05, 2022 06:08 PM
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anonymous2929239Aug 05, 2022 06:08 PM
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Quote from Chocobo :
Weird, it shows $49.99 for the Nest thermostat here, I add it to cart $49.99, I go to check out and it jumps up to $129.99.
happened to me as well when I was trying to get a rebate for a friend a year ago, said "25 dollars!" everything, then add to cart, became like 200.

I gave up
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Aug 05, 2022 06:13 PM
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vess68Aug 05, 2022 06:13 PM
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Quote from Btrotta1 :
Beware, that some utilities will require you to allow them to control the thermostat during peak usage periods in order to get the discounted price.

If you have privacy concerns or can't stand to have your house above 60 degrees during a heatwave, this may not be for you.
Yes, I participated in such program and found out that I can actually save more money controlling the temp myself than allowing the utility company to do it. I have a schedule and when we are out of the house, I keep the temp at 80 but the idiots of the utility company would lower my temp to like 73 or something like that and then we are back home, they would keep it at 78. I had to reset my thermostat and reconfigure it in order to get out of their "peak time savings program".
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Aug 05, 2022 06:31 PM
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moltenbareAug 05, 2022 06:31 PM
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I got the nest a year ago from one of these deals and still love it. I never enrolled in the peak thing where the utility can change it. I probably save like $50/mo on average compared to leaving the temp static all the time. Yes, I could have gotten a dumb thermostat, but tweaking the settings is annoying without an app. If you always keep it a constant temp, these nest things are a no brainer.

One other small perk is when you go on vacation, you can set it really high (like 85 summer 50 winter or so). Then turn it back on when you start heading back. Come home to a nice cool house and still get the savings.

As to why the energy companies offer this, people like me are also helping them out, even if they don't control my thermostat during peak usage. I never wanted to tinker with a thermostat if I was going to be gone for a day and come home to an uncomfortable house, but now I do as I can come home to a comfortable house. I also didn't want to tinker with the settings when schedules changed, so I kept them constant.
Last edited by moltenbare August 5, 2022 at 11:38 AM.
Aug 05, 2022 06:32 PM
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b34tn1kAug 05, 2022 06:32 PM
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Never Colorado...
Aug 05, 2022 06:37 PM
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wake09Aug 05, 2022 06:37 PM
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I've heard that the google nest does not play well with Lennox fully variable systems. Something to do with the motherboard in the furnace does not like the nest and the draw it pulls and eventually fails. I can't imagine a nest drawing more than the touch screen thermostats the Lennox comes with but I've seen those reports from more than one website. Installers apparently recommend the eco bee for Lennox if you are trying to get away from replacing the $800 Lennox thermostats when it fails.

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Aug 05, 2022 06:45 PM
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TochiTAug 05, 2022 06:45 PM
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Quote from vess68 :
Yes, I participated in such program and found out that I can actually save more money controlling the temp myself than allowing the utility company to do it. I have a schedule and when we are out of the house, I keep the temp at 80 but the idiots of the utility company would lower my temp to like 73 or something like that and then we are back home, they would keep it at 78. I had to reset my thermostat and reconfigure it in order to get out of their "peak time savings program".
Probably it's a thoughtful feature that pre-cool your house before peak hours.
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Aug 05, 2022 06:47 PM
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Just putting it out there- if you can get the Nest Learning, by all means do that. The plain Nest thermostat is kinda garbage. The wiring compatibility is limited, the display stinks, and if you have to use the controls on the thermostat you'll end up throwing it out the window. The Learning version is pretty damned solid.
Aug 05, 2022 06:55 PM
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ScrottoBagginsAug 05, 2022 06:55 PM
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Just set and forget - no need to adjust at all. I let my house warm up on vacation this year and it ran continuously for DAYS to cool it back down. Once all the walls heat up, it takes much more energy to cool them back down than it does just to maintain the same temp...
Aug 05, 2022 07:08 PM
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Btrotta1Aug 05, 2022 07:08 PM
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Quote from djagger :
What you said was "utility companies will control your thermostat even during non-peak periods." - in my reading at least that meant all utility companies as you did not add a qualifier. You also didn't mention that it will be clear when you want to purchase a device if your utility is one of those "some." So this isn't something that will happen without a persons knowledge or consent and that you as the consumer, ALWAYS have final control. And that the demand response offered by the utilities is part of the trade off, they give you discounted stuff and ongoing revenue from participation, and you shift your load (e.g., increase your thermostat cooling setting) in return. Seems pretty fair to me. You're two sentence quip omits all of that nuance and real-world details in place of something catchy that makes the utilities look bad for offering this discount.

I could have said "misleading" instead of "sensationalizing." I wanted to add some real context to the situation as nothing is ever so black and white and writing a comment implying that it is (by omitting the nuance) is misleading to anyone who isn't already familiar with the details.
Reread my original post.

I said nothing of the sort.

The words you put in "quotation marks" appear nowhere in my original post. Nowhere. You completely made that up.

My exact words were (and this is a correct usage of quotation marks) "Beware, that some utilities will require you to allow them to control the thermostat during peak usage periods in order to get the discounted price."
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Aug 05, 2022 07:17 PM
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djaggerAug 05, 2022 07:17 PM
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Quote from Btrotta1 :
Reread my original post.

I said nothing of the sort.

The words you put in "quotation marks" appear nowhere in my original post. Nowhere. You completely made that up.

My exact words were (and this is a correct usage of quotation marks) "Beware, that some utilities will require you to allow them to control the thermostat during peak usage periods in order to get the discounted price."
Ah, I see what happened. My initial response was to Colickyboy, not you. I just assumed that was the person who responded back again. That's who I was quoting, sorry about that.
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MSHAug 05, 2022 07:26 PM
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Your account is not eligible for the SmartAC program.
CA PGE, i opted out of their time of use program
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SwampthinqAug 05, 2022 07:37 PM
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What's the best thermostat?
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kalirob99Aug 05, 2022 08:14 PM
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I don't see it listed, but it seems the ecobee is $49 in CA, I was thinking of that over a Nest. Can anyone with more experience with these comment on the two?
TIA, repp for assistance!

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