Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.
Offer Notes:
Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):
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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.
Offer Notes:
Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):
I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.
First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.
First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
I think it will be free after I buy from my electricity company $49.99 and then submit for a rebate form to my gas company, who rebates up to $99 back if you buy a Nest.
lol florida where AC are blowing 24/7 365 dont run any promotions for years thanks to DeathSantis
1) it's pointless in florida. The extreme humidity changes change the 'feels like' with the afternoon storms daily , there's 2 seasons for ac in florida on and off. the rest is people changing it up and down all day long, and yes if you get one of these you will still be moving it up and down all day long.
2) you want your ac generally constant in florida otherwise you will have mold , trim, drywall issues.
if you want a thermostat buy one ffs, there's plenty of energy star promotions in florida 'death santis' isn't stopping anyone. You can also move to a lock down can't work no school state.
Just got 2 pool pumps at two properties mostly paid for by energy star credits.
He is right, you have absolute control.
The nest thermostat is trying to learn your habits. A product is not inferior simply because the consumer is the ignorant component. Learn how the damn thing works
I know how the damn thing works. Keep sticking your head in the sand.
With all due respect, Google Nest Learning Thermostat was a huge favorite by Consumer reports scoring 83/100. ecobee Smart with Voice Control EB-STATe5-01 was the closest in 5th place with a score of 73
yeah i don't know where they got that. i wasn't using the learning one. but the move your hand around the edge to navigate is horrible, i really can't fathom a single good thing about that except eye candy and to waste time.
You can't troubleshoot a problem with the unit without the app since there is not native configuration of wifi,etc in the display. something entirely easy with the ecobee i had (even though in florida i found that useless too it worked).
And the app apparently when all else fails even though it's a cloud company wants you to remove the device from the home app and re-configure it thus removing it from the wall scanning the code, selecting the wires,etc. That had to be done because it wouldn't get on wifi, it took that to reset it. I'm just saying that's a pretty bad user experience....i know it's been 7 months but let's have you remove this from the wall and remember your wire colors. Then if the app fails, crashes, or whatever do it again.
Now here's the thing, that property does have a goofy router it could have entirely been an issue getting back online there. The unit after complete removal/add did get back on wifi (thus presumably ruling out the router) but whole process due to the app centric setup was horrible. And again the device failed because even after all that it would not cut on the compressor. If i had walked into the premises hit the display, reconfigured wifi and failed i would have immediately ruled out app, phone, account goofyness there.
It's a thermostat, not really work all that thought....but 15 minutes to home depot and 25 bucks later solved! boom out and on my way.
For Mass Residents - the basic google Nest frequently goes down to 9.99 (I believe the learning one also comes down lower), right now they jacked up the price as they're doing the thing where if you enroll in energy monitoring you get it free. So if you want the energy monitoring thing, make sure you apply for that extra rebate (on either model). If you don't want that, just hold off and it will likely come back down to $10 at some point.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
My wife hated our our Google Nest Thermostat Snow which replaced our Ecobee at the new home........ until the power company began cutting her a $25 check each quarter. Now she doesn't mention much about the Nest.
Did you have the fancier version I wonder? (more power draw maybe??) I installed the newer (regular) nest last summer. I had a C wire behind the old thermostat unused so I hooked it up. Worked fine for a couple months and then after a long power outage I was getting all sorts of battery low messages, etc. Turned out the C wire wasn't hooked up at the furnace. I've been running powered now ever since.
In short I (and I know others) have had success with no C wire on the regular nest thermostat. BUT personally would never have purchased without access to a C wire and running fully powered.
My nest smart doesn't have c wire. Been running fine 5-6 years now
I'm in the Google eco system. I have a regular Honeywell thermostat that has the ability to set a schedule. I work from home so someone's is home most of the time.
Sell me on some reasons why I should get a nest or ecobee. My schedule on my non smart Honeywell thermostat runs fine. I just find myself always wanting one of these but not sure if there's a point
The only selling point I can think of is being able to adjust the thermostat by using your phone or voice assistant. What I would like to be sold on is why do I need a self learning thermostat. Maybe they are great but I'm not seeing why this is good. I have a standard Wi-Fi thermostat and my program is set fine.
None in Florida because companies here are lobbying for removal of solar as well. They don't want anything to cut into their profits even if it ruins things more. Figures
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First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
2) you want your ac generally constant in florida otherwise you will have mold , trim, drywall issues.
if you want a thermostat buy one ffs, there's plenty of energy star promotions in florida 'death santis' isn't stopping anyone. You can also move to a lock down can't work no school state.
Just got 2 pool pumps at two properties mostly paid for by energy star credits.
Some utilities DO require you to participate in such programs. Not all, but then I didn't say they all do. I said SOME do. Others do not.
YMMV.
Read the T&Cs on the link for your provider to get the full details for your provider.
And then read a few more before you inaccurately call someone a liar.
The nest thermostat is trying to learn your habits. A product is not inferior simply because the consumer is the ignorant component. Learn how the damn thing works
You can't troubleshoot a problem with the unit without the app since there is not native configuration of wifi,etc in the display. something entirely easy with the ecobee i had (even though in florida i found that useless too it worked).
And the app apparently when all else fails even though it's a cloud company wants you to remove the device from the home app and re-configure it thus removing it from the wall scanning the code, selecting the wires,etc. That had to be done because it wouldn't get on wifi, it took that to reset it. I'm just saying that's a pretty bad user experience....i know it's been 7 months but let's have you remove this from the wall and remember your wire colors. Then if the app fails, crashes, or whatever do it again.
Now here's the thing, that property does have a goofy router it could have entirely been an issue getting back online there. The unit after complete removal/add did get back on wifi (thus presumably ruling out the router) but whole process due to the app centric setup was horrible. And again the device failed because even after all that it would not cut on the compressor. If i had walked into the premises hit the display, reconfigured wifi and failed i would have immediately ruled out app, phone, account goofyness there.
It's a thermostat, not really work all that thought....but 15 minutes to home depot and 25 bucks later solved! boom out and on my way.
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In short I (and I know others) have had success with no C wire on the regular nest thermostat. BUT personally would never have purchased without access to a C wire and running fully powered.
Sell me on some reasons why I should get a nest or ecobee. My schedule on my non smart Honeywell thermostat runs fine. I just find myself always wanting one of these but not sure if there's a point
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