Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.
Offer Notes:
Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):
Various Utility Companies in 32 states areoffering eligible customers Google Nest thermostats for as little as $0 outside ofshipping and taxes (no rebate or coupon required). Get up to $129 off of aGoogle Nest Thermostat valued at $129.99 or up to $170 off of a Nest Learning Thermostatvalued at $249 through August 21st.
I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.
First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
F*** Tennessee
You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
I actually work for a utility in IT around this type of stuff, actually one of the largest utils in USA. What you said about being decoupled from revenue is no where near the truth. Also, these thermostats are a pile, they are no where near smart. They are programmed to consistently save power for the 'greater good', if your system is overworked from 'smart' changes to it constantly trying to re-cool itself after being governed, then that is just a side effect of the greater good of us all being green. Do all utilities constantly change your temp, OF COURSE NOT. BUT, with more and more EVs, the grids are peaking WAY MORE, and it is in these times at peak where we get in the orange and red, that controls to conserve the grid are flipped. (Not getting into 'more power is needed as everyone is an expert on this').
Smart thermostats are great in many cases, but do not act like they are flawless and that the reality of what they can do and do do as far as changing your thermo is not of concern. Google's own algorithm
(as they call it) is the worse. You dont even have to sign up for this program, out of the box it is already going to start monkeying with your temps. Have it set to 72?, cool np... Run to the store - no problem. Come back home, its not 72, its now 80 as it was being 'green' and is saving you money and the grid. BUT, the 2 hours it takes to get back to 72 running full blast each time is somehow energy saving AND ok for your equipment. Yeah, use some common sense. Its all fine until you become the one it affects and then you realize what a huge pile this is. Google alone has consistently taken every functional and decent advancement in technology they acquire and laid it over their anti 'Dont be evil' attitude (sarcasm) and capitalizes every click for their own personal benefit, never for yours at all. If you do decide to get a 'smart' thermostat, this is honestly one of the worst supported and controllable ones on the market. I have been involved in many brands, working directly on this functionality and Google is horrendous.
Of course, take all that with a grain of salt, maybe someone will read this and choose a little more wisely.
There's a reason this is only a Google product. Google will make more than $70 over a lifetime of selling your data of how you use your thermostat AKA when you are home most plus a variety of other goldmine scenarios they can sell.
Not true. I live is south FL and my Nest is set to 4 auto temp settings and I never mess with them. My house has new windows and new insulation. The humidity in my home never goes past 40% on average. It all depends on how sealed your home is. If you have holes you will have humidity and heat issues,
So I guess you proved the point... You did not require a rebate from the state to convince you to get a smart thermostat. If the point of the rebate is to convince people to get a smart thermostat you are proof that it is not needed in FL.
I live in south FL as well. Enjoy some of the cheapest and cleanest (Nuke) electricity in the country. No rolling blackouts. The north east electricity rates are about double what we pay and are mostly generated by burning coal, oil, natural gas and garbage.
FL state tax 0%
Northeast State tax range from 4 to 10.75%
Stop crapping on the state you live in and appreciate what you have.
Governor accepts money from FPL to remove energy savings for more money. They are even going after solar so people don't install it.
We have some of the cheapest and cleanest (Nuke) energy in the country. About half the cost of electricity in the Northeast. No rolling blackouts...
Solar is made in China, Even solar that is made in US is from materials from China. Chinese factories use coal fired plants to generate the electricity to run the factory to make the solar cell we buy in the US. Same story for the batteries used to store the energy if you are not feeding back to the grid. Solar cells only last about 25 years and they are near impossible to recycle with all the adhesives bonding them together and hazardous materials contained within. Its a filthy industry and net bad for the environment if you include the manufacture, lifespan and waste produced.
But if you must...
Most Florida residents are eligible to receive the Federal Solar Investment Tax Credit—also known as the solar ITC. This allows eligible homeowners to deduct up to 26% of their solar panel installation cost from their federal income taxes.
Section 212.08(7)(hh), F.S., provides that solar energy systems or any component thereof are exempt from Florida sales and use tax.
Do we actually crank it at 60 during a heatwave? Wow, that will be a chunk of my paycheck in my State.
Who the hell keeps their house at 60? I live in the south (not deep south) and mine is 76-78 during the summer when I am home. Sometimes it is close to 80. I can't afford to have my AC running constantly.
I bought a nest a few months ago and it has caused nothing but trouble. I have spoken to 7 customer services reps and no one can help me. This is the worst product I have ever bought and would recommend everyone to stay away from it.
I actually work for a utility in IT around this type of stuff, actually one of the largest utils in USA. What you said about being decoupled from revenue is no where near the truth. Also, these thermostats are a pile, they are no where near smart. They are programmed to consistently save power for the 'greater good', if your system is overworked from 'smart' changes to it constantly trying to re-cool itself after being governed, then that is just a side effect of the greater good of us all being green. Do all utilities constantly change your temp, OF COURSE NOT. BUT, with more and more EVs, the grids are peaking WAY MORE, and it is in these times at peak where we get in the orange and red, that controls to conserve the grid are flipped. (Not getting into 'more power is needed as everyone is an expert on this').
Smart thermostats are great in many cases, but do not act like they are flawless and that the reality of what they can do and do do as far as changing your thermo is not of concern. Google's own algorithm
(as they call it) is the worse. You dont even have to sign up for this program, out of the box it is already going to start monkeying with your temps. Have it set to 72?, cool np... Run to the store - no problem. Come back home, its not 72, its now 80 as it was being 'green' and is saving you money and the grid. BUT, the 2 hours it takes to get back to 72 running full blast each time is somehow energy saving AND ok for your equipment. Yeah, use some common sense. Its all fine until you become the one it affects and then you realize what a huge pile this is. Google alone has consistently taken every functional and decent advancement in technology they acquire and laid it over their anti 'Dont be evil' attitude (sarcasm) and capitalizes every click for their own personal benefit, never for yours at all. If you do decide to get a 'smart' thermostat, this is honestly one of the worst supported and controllable ones on the market. I have been involved in many brands, working directly on this functionality and Google is horrendous.
Of course, take all that with a grain of salt, maybe someone will read this and choose a little more wisely.
Absolute BS. Dude is watching too many Terminator movies and thinks "the machines" know when he is going to the grocery store so they can turn off his A/C.
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First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
Smart thermostats are great in many cases, but do not act like they are flawless and that the reality of what they can do and do do as far as changing your thermo is not of concern. Google's own algorithm
(as they call it) is the worse. You dont even have to sign up for this program, out of the box it is already going to start monkeying with your temps. Have it set to 72?, cool np... Run to the store - no problem. Come back home, its not 72, its now 80 as it was being 'green' and is saving you money and the grid. BUT, the 2 hours it takes to get back to 72 running full blast each time is somehow energy saving AND ok for your equipment. Yeah, use some common sense. Its all fine until you become the one it affects and then you realize what a huge pile this is. Google alone has consistently taken every functional and decent advancement in technology they acquire and laid it over their anti 'Dont be evil' attitude (sarcasm) and capitalizes every click for their own personal benefit, never for yours at all. If you do decide to get a 'smart' thermostat, this is honestly one of the worst supported and controllable ones on the market. I have been involved in many brands, working directly on this functionality and Google is horrendous.
Of course, take all that with a grain of salt, maybe someone will read this and choose a little more wisely.
Anyone has ecobee lite free with their provider ?
1yr ago i bought it for 1$ + 9$ shipping
So will the site you're posting this on.
That is not even a remotely apt comparison lol.
You'd be surprised. I work in lead gen.
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I live in south FL as well. Enjoy some of the cheapest and cleanest (Nuke) electricity in the country. No rolling blackouts. The north east electricity rates are about double what we pay and are mostly generated by burning coal, oil, natural gas and garbage.
FL state tax 0%
Northeast State tax range from 4 to 10.75%
Stop crapping on the state you live in and appreciate what you have.
Solar is made in China, Even solar that is made in US is from materials from China. Chinese factories use coal fired plants to generate the electricity to run the factory to make the solar cell we buy in the US. Same story for the batteries used to store the energy if you are not feeding back to the grid. Solar cells only last about 25 years and they are near impossible to recycle with all the adhesives bonding them together and hazardous materials contained within. Its a filthy industry and net bad for the environment if you include the manufacture, lifespan and waste produced.
But if you must...
Most Florida residents are eligible to receive the Federal Solar Investment Tax Credit—also known as the solar ITC. This allows eligible homeowners to deduct up to 26% of their solar panel installation cost from their federal income taxes.
Section 212.08(7)(hh), F.S., provides that solar energy systems or any component thereof are exempt from Florida sales and use tax.
Smart thermostats are great in many cases, but do not act like they are flawless and that the reality of what they can do and do do as far as changing your thermo is not of concern. Google's own algorithm
(as they call it) is the worse. You dont even have to sign up for this program, out of the box it is already going to start monkeying with your temps. Have it set to 72?, cool np... Run to the store - no problem. Come back home, its not 72, its now 80 as it was being 'green' and is saving you money and the grid. BUT, the 2 hours it takes to get back to 72 running full blast each time is somehow energy saving AND ok for your equipment. Yeah, use some common sense. Its all fine until you become the one it affects and then you realize what a huge pile this is. Google alone has consistently taken every functional and decent advancement in technology they acquire and laid it over their anti 'Dont be evil' attitude (sarcasm) and capitalizes every click for their own personal benefit, never for yours at all. If you do decide to get a 'smart' thermostat, this is honestly one of the worst supported and controllable ones on the market. I have been involved in many brands, working directly on this functionality and Google is horrendous.
Of course, take all that with a grain of salt, maybe someone will read this and choose a little more wisely.
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Your taxes already bought the device through the rebate to the power company, time to get some of that money back.