This is slightly cheaper than the Costco deal but this offer does not require Costco membership. However, Costco offers a 2-year warranty versus the 1-year at Walmart.
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This is slightly cheaper than the Costco deal but this offer does not require Costco membership. However, Costco offers a 2-year warranty versus the 1-year at Walmart.
About this Product:
This is rated 4 out of 5 stars based on over 100 ratings at Walmart.
Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.
Deal History includes data from multiple reputable stores, such as Best Buy, Target, and Walmart. The lowest price among stores for a given day is selected as the "Sale Price".
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Costco deal at $499 is still better, with the exception of those that do not have a Costco membership.
Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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If you need to buy right now and your choices are the Costco HP vs the Asus on this post, I'd recommend the Asus.
The HP is going to be pretty unsupportable outside of your HP/Costco warranty (the Costco warranty might be pretty good though). I'd expect the motherboard and maybe the power supply to be proprietary which will limit your ability to upgrade this system. The I7 12700F is a good CPU but I wouldn't be surprised if the cooling solution in this system didn't cause some thermal throttling. That's only an assumption though and if you compare the CPUs at optimal performance, the HP's Intel would outperform this particular AMD CPU overall.
I believe the Asus uses standard parts so you can more easily upgrade and replace parts yourself. The 1660 TI GPU in the ASUS is also much better than the RX 550. While the AMD 3600X CPU isn't as good as the HP's Intel i7 12700F, it'll probably be a better system overall due to better build quality. Plus you can probably upgrade to the 5000 series AMD without upgrading the motherboard. Though if you did need / want to upgrade the motherboard, that will be an option for this Asus.
Based on teardowns I've seen, I would never recommend a system like the HP one here. Maybe the HP Omen would be ok but I would still avoid those too... unless the only other choice was an Alienware desktop.
The CPU on this is significantly better but even then I would get the 500 dollar ASUS. The Ryzen 5 is still a great little CPU but the 1660TI is miles better than the RX550 2gb. Really Old, slower card. Save the $200 and instead buy another stick of RAM and more storage for the 499 ASUS.
Do you see the original post where they marked out $529 and changed to $499?
I posted when it was $529.....also, it isn't cheaper, it is the same price both places.
Curious if this includes the keyboard and mouse. It clearly states that it does on the Costco deal.
Costco deal at $499 is still better, with the exception of those that do not have a Costco membership.
Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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I dunno. Costco wants to charge $15 for shipping. Walmart doesn't show that for me.
- I'm looking for a simple desktop to replace my ~ 10-year-old computer, which is starting to freeze more and more often. (4th generation i7 - 4770)
The CPU on this is significantly better but even then I would get the 500 dollar ASUS. The Ryzen 5 is still a great little CPU but the 1660TI is miles better than the RX550 2gb. Really Old, slower card. Save the $200 and instead buy another stick of RAM and more storage for the 499 ASUS.
Hard to argue with it at this price based on that awesome video card alone .. I'm trying and failing to find out if this motherboard can be upgraded to Win 11 (be careful here folks, if the motherboard doesn't support TPM you'll be stuck with a PC that does not get security updates - very bad - from microsoft come october 2025 when Win 10 stops being supported)
Also here's a youtube video where the reviewer has concerns about the high temperatures the hardware reaches
and one thing I've learned in all my internet research when building a PC... high temp's are BAD, you can fry the parts inside a PC really quickly ... I could be wrong but I'm guessing it comes with a really sucky CPU cooler too which in theory you could upgrade and replace but it gets tricky and you have to be very careful
(hint, warm that sucker up by running the PC for say an hour and use dental floss to "cut" between the fan and the thermal paste, ideally with a buddy to hang onto the fan so it doesn't go sliding all over the place inside the PC making a mess with the thermal paste - I followed the youtube tutorials that said you can just twist the cpu fan off and utterly destroyed my CPU , mind you it was my first time ever trying to do something like that so quite possibly user error )
As someone who has built and then upgraded later on desktop PC's for myself and family members I find myself cringing when I look at this awful case and find myself wondering if it would be possible to just transplant the entire thing into a better case with say mounts for preferably two fans in the front of the case as well as a mount for a fan in the back of the case. Maybe this one
because you're going to run out of hard drive space VERY quickly ... if it was me I'd snag at least a 1 TB ssd sata drive you can install both additional programs (games alone take up a lot of space) and documents on and buy another 8 GB stick of ram to help out with gaming but that also brings up the price still further.
...I dunno, tempting price but not knowing for sure if you can upgrade to Win 11 worries me and the lack of ventilation worries me a lot too. I find myself wondering if it's better to save your money and just build your own PC ... not as scary as it sounds there are a ton of youtube videos that will walk you through it .. google search tom's hardware forums and post a question to the effect of "I'd like to build my own PC here's how much money I have to spend what do you recommend?" and there are helpful people on there who will give you suggestions ... of course the drawback is you have to buy a copy of Win 11 BUT see
you could buy say Win 10 home for $50 from what is basically an authorized reseller (product key will work basically) then just take advantage of MS's free upgrade offer to Win 11... just make sure you buy a motherboard and processor that supports Win 11.
I bought the Costco one and when I started it up it said it's going to download and update to windows 11 but I just got it today so I haven't checked if the update worked yet but I don't know, would it say it's updating to Windows 11 and then download it but not install it?
Costco deal at $499 is still better, with the exception of those that do not have a Costco membership.
Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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Membership isn't a problem. A lot of people don't know, but if you can get your hand on a Costco gift card, you don't need a membership to shop there.
- I'm looking for a simple desktop to replace my ~ 10-year-old computer, which is starting to freeze more and more often. (4th generation i7 - 4770)
Might be worth seeing if better deals happen this fall. I was in a similar situation a few months back and found that a fresh install of windows (and drivers )on the SSD brought my 4770 back to reliable and "fast enough" performance. Gaming FPS is still gpu (3060) constrained because I use a 4K tv as a screen and the CPU handles office tasks without any noticable lag. I assume that for compiling code or doing video work a new CPU would be huge, but the 4770 was a beast in it's day.
If you need to buy right now and your choices are the Costco HP vs the Asus on this post, I'd recommend the Asus.
The HP is going to be pretty unsupportable outside of your HP/Costco warranty (the Costco warranty might be pretty good though). I'd expect the motherboard and maybe the power supply to be proprietary which will limit your ability to upgrade this system. The I7 12700F is a good CPU but I wouldn't be surprised if the cooling solution in this system didn't cause some thermal throttling. That's only an assumption though and if you compare the CPUs at optimal performance, the HP's Intel would outperform this particular AMD CPU overall.
I believe the Asus uses standard parts so you can more easily upgrade and replace parts yourself. The 1660 TI GPU in the ASUS is also much better than the RX 550. While the AMD 3600X CPU isn't as good as the HP's Intel i7 12700F, it'll probably be a better system overall due to better build quality. Plus you can probably upgrade to the 5000 series AMD without upgrading the motherboard. Though if you did need / want to upgrade the motherboard, that will be an option for this Asus.
Based on teardowns I've seen, I would never recommend a system like the HP one here. Maybe the HP Omen would be ok but I would still avoid those too... unless the only other choice was an Alienware desktop.
So what pre-made gaming PCs would you recommend if Omen and Alienware are low on your list?
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Might be worth seeing if better deals happen this fall. I was in a similar situation a few months back and found that a fresh install of windows (and drivers )on the SSD brought my 4770 back to reliable and "fast enough" performance. Gaming FPS is still gpu (3060) constrained because I use a 4K tv as a screen and the CPU handles office tasks without any noticable lag. I assume that for compiling code or doing video work a new CPU would be huge, but the 4770 was a beast in it's day.
Ditto, updated my 2012 HP i7-3770 with a SSD and a RX-5500XT in late 2020 for 1080 gaming. I'm good until at least 2025.
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Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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The HP is going to be pretty unsupportable outside of your HP/Costco warranty (the Costco warranty might be pretty good though). I'd expect the motherboard and maybe the power supply to be proprietary which will limit your ability to upgrade this system. The I7 12700F is a good CPU but I wouldn't be surprised if the cooling solution in this system didn't cause some thermal throttling. That's only an assumption though and if you compare the CPUs at optimal performance, the HP's Intel would outperform this particular AMD CPU overall.
I believe the Asus uses standard parts so you can more easily upgrade and replace parts yourself. The 1660 TI GPU in the ASUS is also much better than the RX 550. While the AMD 3600X CPU isn't as good as the HP's Intel i7 12700F, it'll probably be a better system overall due to better build quality. Plus you can probably upgrade to the 5000 series AMD without upgrading the motherboard. Though if you did need / want to upgrade the motherboard, that will be an option for this Asus.
Based on teardowns I've seen, I would never recommend a system like the HP one here. Maybe the HP Omen would be ok but I would still avoid those too... unless the only other choice was an Alienware desktop.
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I posted when it was $529.....also, it isn't cheaper, it is the same price both places.
Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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HP Pavilion Desktop - 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700F - AMD Radeon RX 550 - Windows 11
On sale for $699
https://www.costco.com/hp-pavilio...41386
- I'm looking for a simple desktop to replace my ~ 10-year-old computer, which is starting to freeze more and more often. (4th generation i7 - 4770)
Also here's a youtube video where the reviewer has concerns about the high temperatures the hardware reaches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8IVt-S6SMU
and one thing I've learned in all my internet research when building a PC... high temp's are BAD, you can fry the parts inside a PC really quickly ... I could be wrong but I'm guessing it comes with a really sucky CPU cooler too which in theory you could upgrade and replace but it gets tricky and you have to be very careful
(hint, warm that sucker up by running the PC for say an hour and use dental floss to "cut" between the fan and the thermal paste, ideally with a buddy to hang onto the fan so it doesn't go sliding all over the place inside the PC making a mess with the thermal paste - I followed the youtube tutorials that said you can just twist the cpu fan off and utterly destroyed my CPU , mind you it was my first time ever trying to do something like that so quite possibly user error
As someone who has built and then upgraded later on desktop PC's for myself and family members I find myself cringing when I look at this awful case and find myself wondering if it would be possible to just transplant the entire thing into a better case with say mounts for preferably two fans in the front of the case as well as a mount for a fan in the back of the case. Maybe this one
https://www.tomshardwar
If it's true that they left an empty ram slot and there's a way to add an additional hard drive for storage that would be fantastic see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YDSmU
because you're going to run out of hard drive space VERY quickly ... if it was me I'd snag at least a 1 TB ssd sata drive you can install both additional programs (games alone take up a lot of space) and documents on and buy another 8 GB stick of ram to help out with gaming but that also brings up the price still further.
...I dunno, tempting price but not knowing for sure if you can upgrade to Win 11 worries me and the lack of ventilation worries me a lot too. I find myself wondering if it's better to save your money and just build your own PC ... not as scary as it sounds there are a ton of youtube videos that will walk you through it
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3...-free.html
and
https://software.pcworl
you could buy say Win 10 home for $50 from what is basically an authorized reseller (product key will work basically) then just take advantage of MS's free upgrade offer to Win 11... just make sure you buy a motherboard and processor that supports Win 11.
Still thinking that these might fall another little bit on price because retailers are going to have to firesale everything to make way for newer generation systems - which will drive down the price of everything else further down the supply chain. Just on man's opinion.
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HP Pavilion Desktop - 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700F - AMD Radeon RX 550 - Windows 11
On sale for $699
https://www.costco.com/hp-pavilio...41386
- I'm looking for a simple desktop to replace my ~ 10-year-old computer, which is starting to freeze more and more often. (4th generation i7 - 4770)
https://slickdeals.net/f/15919780-ymmv-hp-tg01-2003w-ryzen-5-5600g-rx-5500-graphics-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-walmart-clearance-480?attrsrc=sea
HP Pavilion Desktop - 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700F - AMD Radeon RX 550 - Windows 11
On sale for $699
https://www.costco.com/hp-pavilio...41386
- I'm looking for a simple desktop to replace my ~ 10-year-old computer, which is starting to freeze more and more often. (4th generation i7 - 4770)
The HP is going to be pretty unsupportable outside of your HP/Costco warranty (the Costco warranty might be pretty good though). I'd expect the motherboard and maybe the power supply to be proprietary which will limit your ability to upgrade this system. The I7 12700F is a good CPU but I wouldn't be surprised if the cooling solution in this system didn't cause some thermal throttling. That's only an assumption though and if you compare the CPUs at optimal performance, the HP's Intel would outperform this particular AMD CPU overall.
I believe the Asus uses standard parts so you can more easily upgrade and replace parts yourself. The 1660 TI GPU in the ASUS is also much better than the RX 550. While the AMD 3600X CPU isn't as good as the HP's Intel i7 12700F, it'll probably be a better system overall due to better build quality. Plus you can probably upgrade to the 5000 series AMD without upgrading the motherboard. Though if you did need / want to upgrade the motherboard, that will be an option for this Asus.
Based on teardowns I've seen, I would never recommend a system like the HP one here. Maybe the HP Omen would be ok but I would still avoid those too... unless the only other choice was an Alienware desktop.
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