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Woah.. RED.. buy buy buy.. nod This is it people, nothing better at $800.

These LP380s are essentially rebadges of Amason (not amazon)'s entry lvl pianos. They're owned by Pearl_River piano group (The largest piano OEM in the entire world).

The rh3 action (not to be confused with kawai's rh3) action is pretty darn good. It's on the stiffer side, some people don't like it, but it's been solid.

It is a pretty old design, and so for example the rubber contacts do not use through_hole posts, so more dust can get under them, you'll have to be more careful about dust. It's also harder to disassemble and reassemble. probably not something you'd notice.


RED is special, because we've only seen black and white on sale. In japan they're available in all sorts of custom colors, but not in the USA because we're crass as fff, and we never get good piano stuff. Germany has way lower prices on piano stuff, because they're classy.


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FP30X bout the same touch weight, I feel it's slightly less stiff and rebounds faster than PHA4 action in the fp30x. pha4 has 3 sensor vs 2 sensor on the korg rh3, IN THEORY the 3 sensor should be better and repeat notes more accurately right ?, IN PRACTICE, the FP30 drop notes like crazy when you try to do fast trills. The rh3 I've tried has not ever done that, so much for roland's marketing. This aspect is not going to impact beginners. If you like the 30x sound, get the 30x.

FRP1 (FP10 Costco bundle) This korg lp380 is a better deal than that bundle, because you get a nicer sound system/stand.

DGX670, GHS action is much much lighter than lp380's rh3, dgx has alot of arranger features usually used for stage pianos, pretty useless for general piano, so you'd be paying more for functions you're not using.

P45/ 125, GHS here again, The korg has better projection and clarity in terms of sound, but just slightly.

ES110/120, RHC action is much lighter as well, most beginners prefer it, but the new es120 is badly priced AND no longer comes with the good pedal ($40-60) like the 110, and it costs $900+ $60 pedal, which is ridiculous. The lp380 is a way better deal at $800. ES110/120 should be $500 at the most.



Overall sound quality: If you guys hook these up to your own sound system + Big subwoofer, you'll get way better quality than onboard. The built in tones while not studio quality, are more than enough for general use.
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08-17-2022 at 12:04 PM.
08-17-2022 at 12:04 PM.
Quote from xtp :
Woah.. RED.. buy buy buy.. nod This is it people, nothing better at $800.

These LP380s are essentially rebadges of Amason (not amazon)'s entry lvl pianos. They're owned by Pearl_River piano group (The largest piano OEM in the entire world).

The rh3 action (not to be confused with kawai's rh3) action is pretty darn good. It's on the stiffer side, some people don't like it, but it's been solid.

It is a pretty old design, and so for example the rubber contacts do not use through_hole posts, so more dust can get under them, you'll have to be more careful about dust. It's also harder to disassemble and reassemble. probably not something you'd notice.


RED is special, because we've only seen black and white on sale. In japan they're available in all sorts of custom colors, but not in the USA because we're crass as fff, and we never get good piano stuff. Germany has way lower prices on piano stuff, because they're classy.


VS

FP30X bout the same touch weight, I feel it's slightly less stiff and rebounds faster than PHA4 action in the fp30x. pha4 has 3 sensor vs 2 sensor on the korg rh3, IN THEORY the 3 sensor should be better and repeat notes more accurately right ?, IN PRACTICE, the FP30 drop notes like crazy when you try to do fast trills. The rh3 I've tried has not ever done that, so much for roland's marketing. This aspect is not going to impact beginners. If you like the 30x sound, get the 30x.

FRP1 (FP10 Costco bundle) This korg lp380 is a better deal than that bundle, because you get a nicer sound system/stand.

DGX670, GHS action is much much lighter than lp380's rh3, dgx has alot of arranger features usually used for stage pianos, pretty useless for general piano, so you'd be paying more for functions you're not using.

P45/ 125, GHS here again, The korg has better projection and clarity in terms of sound, but just slightly.

ES110/120, RHC action is much lighter as well, most beginners prefer it, but the new es120 is badly priced AND no longer comes with the good pedal ($40-60) like the 110, and it costs $900+ $60 pedal, which is ridiculous. The lp380 is a way better deal at $800. ES110/120 should be $500 at the most.



Overall sound quality: If you guys hook these up to your own sound system + Big subwoofer, you'll get way better quality than onboard. The built in tones while not studio quality, are more than enough for general use.
This guy pianos.
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08-17-2022 at 12:12 PM.
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This guy pianos.
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And likes red.
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08-17-2022 at 06:38 PM.
08-17-2022 at 06:38 PM.
There's a reason why this is discounted "so steeply". It's not that great and it's OLD, it's a 2013 model! [youtube.com] Nobody wants to pay $1350 for a 10yr old model! The retail price of $1350 is an utter joke in 2022. This piano should be priced at $750.


4 Reasons why i prefer Roland FP 30X (Model 2021) over Korg LP380 (Model 2013 - no USB port)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE4DLdlTeWE

$900 for a much newer, much more updated piano connections and much more modern sound engine:

https://www.amazon.com/Roland-amp...B08SBZW46G

And way better key action than Korg.
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08-17-2022 at 07:50 PM.
08-17-2022 at 07:50 PM.
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Korg LP380 (Model 2013 - no USB port)

$900 for a much newer, much more updated piano connections and much more modern sound engine

And way better key action than Korg.
Facts and Fictions:

The pha4 fp30x action is NOT better than Korg's RH3, it comes down to preference, actions are not really better or worse than one another. In general the pha4 is slightly more sluggish on rebound, and a bit sticky feeling. The Korg RH3 is pretty stiff like the PHA4.

The pha4 action is a derivative of Roland's Ivory Touch G, which is yet another 10yr old action.

The fp30 engine itself does drop notes during fast trills. (I'm not saying it's a big deal for general use), but Roland's far from perfect.

FP30x is not a new sound engine, it's the same SN_engine that Roland has been using since 2013, ALL digital pianos use pretty old software in terms of sound engines.

Within the confines of Built-In sound engines it's not useful to say outright one is better than another, this is a preference.

This unit on sale is also the LP380 (U) version, which is the updated version with USB.
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08-17-2022 at 09:20 PM.
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This would look nice in my storage unit
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08-17-2022 at 10:08 PM.
08-17-2022 at 10:08 PM.
Quote from xtp :
Facts and Fictions:

The pha4 fp30x action is NOT better than Korg's RH3, it comes down to preference, actions are not really better or worse than one another. In general the pha4 is slightly more sluggish on rebound, and a bit sticky feeling. The Korg RH3 is pretty stiff like the PHA4.

The pha4 action is a derivative of Roland's Ivory Touch G, which is yet another 10yr old action.

The fp30 engine itself does drop notes during fast trills. (I'm not saying it's a big deal for general use), but Roland's far from perfect.

FP30x is not a new sound engine, it's the same SN_engine that Roland has been using since 2013, ALL digital pianos use pretty old software in terms of sound engines.

Within the confines of Built-In sound engines it's not useful to say outright one is better than another, this is a preference.

This unit on sale is also the LP380 (U) version, which is the updated version with USB.



The U version DOES NOT come in red

https://www.korg.com/us/products/...ations.php

Color Variations
Black (LP-380U-BK), White (LP-380U-WH), Rosewood grain finish (LP-380U-RW), Rosewood grain black finish (LP-380U-RWBK)
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08-17-2022 at 10:21 PM.
08-17-2022 at 10:21 PM.
Quote from funkmasterta :
The U version DOES NOT come in red

https://www.korg.com/us/products/...ations.php

Color Variations
Black (LP-380U-BK), White (LP-380U-WH), Rosewood grain finish (LP-380U-RW), Rosewood grain black finish (LP-380U-RWBK)

SKU: KOLP380RDU MFR: LP380RDU
Both bar codes end with U.
And the spec says it has usb interface.
ConnectionsLine Out, MIDI (In, Out), USB Type B, Headphones x 2, Pedal, Speakers, DC19V
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08-17-2022 at 11:10 PM.
08-17-2022 at 11:10 PM.
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SKU: KOLP380RDU MFR: LP380RDU
Both bar codes end with U.
And the spec says it has usb interface.
ConnectionsLine Out, MIDI (In, Out), USB Type B, Headphones x 2, Pedal, Speakers, DC19V
Max polyphony: 120 voices

Yamaha P125 has 192 voices
Kawai ES120 has 192 voices

both under $1000
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08-18-2022 at 04:54 AM.
08-18-2022 at 04:54 AM.
Max polyphony: 120 voices

_So, a word on polyphony, playing Chopin's fantasy impromptu only uses ~ 35-40 polyphony. laugh out loud
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Max polyphony: 120 voices

_So, a word on polyphony, playing Chopin's fantasy impromptu only uses ~ 35-40 polyphony. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...s/emot-LOL.gif
You can still get drop out with 120 voices unless you play a certain way all the time to be mindful about it.

It's just best to get 192 voices or even 256, then you never have to worry about it.

And the models with 192 voices are in the same price range.

No reason to spend this much for only 120 voices.

No need to be such a fan boy of this model. Objectively, this isn't a great deal.
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08-18-2022 at 08:17 AM.
08-18-2022 at 08:17 AM.
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You can still get drop out with 120 voices unless you play a certain way all the time to be mindful about it.

It's just best to get 192 voices or even 256, then you never have to worry about it.

And the models with 192 voices are in the same price range.

No reason to spend this much for only 120 voices.

No need to be such a fan boy of this model. Objectively, this isn't a great deal.
That is incorrect, there is no reason to worry about polyphony, because you will NEVER EVER hit that limit at 120.

You don't have to be mindful, it simply won't happen.

I think you're the fan boy here, trying to justify your allegiance to fp30x.

I'm not saying fp30x is bad, but it's not perfect, it costs more with the stand + separate pedal, has no key cover, drops notes on fast trills, and the action is somewhat sticky / sluggish.

The lp380 action is a bit smoother, still a heavy touch action like the fp30x. it has a way nicer stand and key cover AND comes with all 3 pedals . LP380 will also sound more clear at higher volume, as it has 44 watts, vs the 22 watt fp30x

It's not a night and day difference, if someone likes the roland or yama sound better, get those, but for $800, Lp380 is a much better value than anything else on the market.
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08-18-2022 at 10:55 AM.
08-18-2022 at 10:55 AM.
With 120 voices, you could hit every note on the 88 key keyboard and let them all ring out with the sustain pedal without experiencing any cutout.

The way I think you could run out of voices and experience cutout with 120 voices is if it lets the notes sustain as you change sounds, and you wanted to let one voice ring out some chords as you played an arpeggio on the next sound. Even then, I don't think you would experience cutout during normal "musical" playing.

Please see this video at the 9:09 mark - https://youtu.be/deTCIATDJUI?t=549 - This guy does some great piano reviews. He says: "120 polyphony may sound low but I wasn't able to get sound drop outs even after I layered and sustained a piano patch with a strings section."

This piano is not for me, but I would absolutely not be discouraged by 120 note polyphony on a digital piano or keyboard of any kind.
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