ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity WOOT! $999.99

Wow you have seen the Real specs on the 4000 series cards already!?! Care to share where?

Or are you going off of rumors and hype that precedes every new GPU launch and usually leaves us disappointed??

The 5070 will be Sick!

Is this better than the Dell Alienware just out of curiosity?

Yeah. This is less than the 1100 my friend paid for 3080ti. Great price because Nvidia will delay the 4000 until they rid themselves off 3000s.

You're one of the many spewing self righteous sarcastic junk for months when I've criticized their precious GPU deal. I understand not wanting to feel like you've been ripped off, but it's amazing to see people attacking facts as they are unfolding.

Meanwhile, back in reality, everything I've been saying about the GPU market and price crashes happening, has happened and is continuing...because logic isn't emotional.

It isn't just rumors and hype. The lithography is shrinking to 4N, which will push transistor densities off the charts. The 2XXX was 12nm, the 3XXX was 8nm, die sizes of 445mm^2 and 392mm^2, and transistor counts at 10.8B and 17.4B respectively. So, with around 61% more transistors at around the same die size, the RTX 3070 is around 45% faster. So 45% performance improvement with a 33% reduction in the lithography size at the same die size.

We could delve into mathematical extrapolations for pages, but if a 33% lithography improvement brought 61% more transistors and 45% higher performance, a larger lithography reduction would bring larger percentage increases in both all else equal. Even if the die size were smaller, it could still have higher transistor and performance percentage advantages than the 3070 to 2070 comparison, and transistor counts are still the main factor with standard rendering performance.

If the 4070 is equal to or faster than 45% above the 3070, then now we're around 3080 Ti performance. It's being estimated around 3090 performance, which when considered in light of the aforementioned, nearly every major tech source leak, increased AMD competition, and a crashing market that would demand a significant improvement to keep sales numbers and revenues reasonable, it's not only reasonable but probable that the 4070 will be near or at 3090 performance.

You're one of the many spewing self righteous sarcastic junk for months when I've criticized their precious GPU deal. I understand not wanting to feel like you've been ripped off, but it's amazing to see people attacking facts as they are unfolding.

Meanwhile, back in reality, everything I've been saying about the GPU market and price crashes happening, has happened and is continuing...because logic isn't emotional.

It isn't just rumors and hype. The lithography is shrinking to 4N, which will push transistor densities off the charts. The 2XXX was 12nm, the 3XXX was 8nm, die sizes of 445mm^2 and 392mm^2, and transistor counts at 10.8B and 17.4B respectively. So, with around 61% more transistors at around the same die size, the RTX 3070 is around 45% faster. So 45% performance improvement with a 33% reduction in the lithography size at the same die size.

We could delve into mathematical extrapolations for pages, but if a 33% lithography improvement brought 61% more transistors and 45% higher performance, a larger lithography reduction would bring larger percentage increases in both all else equal. Even if the die size were smaller, it could still have higher transistor and performance percentage advantages than the 3070 to 2070 comparison, and transistor counts are still the main factor with standard rendering performance.

If the 4070 is equal to or faster than 45% above the 3070, then now we're around 3080 Ti performance. It's being estimated around 3090 performance, which when considered in light of the aforementioned, nearly every major tech source leak, increased AMD competition, and a crashing market that would demand a significant improvement to keep sales numbers and revenues reasonable, it's not only reasonable but probable that the 4070 will be near or at 3090 performance.

Wow, the great GPU prophet has spoken… bet you're just a blast to be around at social gatherings… GTFO here…

AMD competition? You do realize Lisa Su and jensen are family right?

The level of nerd in this post is astonishing; I have NO idea what you just said to me…

Wow, the great GPU prophet has spoken… bet you're just a blast to be around at social gatherings… GTFO here…

So, no real response then?

How do social gatherings have anything to do with logic? Actually I'm quite popular, mostly because I reason and respond to topics with more than, oh I don't know, errant juvenile babble like many you probably know and get along well with.

It isn't prophecy, it is what it is.

Such words of wisdom.
A car is also a toaster 🤠

An $1000 toaster

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