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Casio PX-S3000 Privia 88-Key Digital Console Piano with 700 Tones & 200 Rhythms $649 + free s/h

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This model has been heavily Chastised (Criticized) for having uneven touch between black and white key.

The black keys are slightly ~10g lighter touch weight than white keys. The reason they've done this is because the key stick length is very compact, and so to make it easier to play near the top, the black keys had to be reduced slightly.

This is honestly not a huge problem, because most of the time, in real world use you don't play very high into the keys towards where the pivot point is, but it is a problem for some people and some play styles.

I've played this action, I don't find it that obtrusive, but it is there. I find I can easily adjust to it though.



In terms of the "electronics" and "software" that's built into the slab, $649 is very good value.

It's a bigger "software" feature_set than the Korg LP380 ($799) going on right now. If anyone prefers a lighter action, the Casio does have that. The Korg is definitely on the heavy side.

I would argue for "piano learning", the Korg is still a better buy, because it has all the "stuff" you'd actually use. stand, pedals, key cover, Bigger speakers.

The psx3000 has alot of stage piano features for Gigging/ Portable use.


Sound quality, no question the Korg LP380 speaker setup is better sounding.

So, Out of the box, the Korg will sound way better, but if you hook up an external sound system, the Casio inches ahead.

The casio has a newer higher quality sample set (sound rom), this is in its software, if you want to HEAR this improved sound, you have to hook it up to Headphones, OR, your own Amplifier/Speakers. The built in speakers are tinny/ uninspiring, and pointed away from the user. (works ok against a wall for bounce back, you want a good 12 inch distance)




If you've seen the James Pavel review on youtube, He got into a shouting match with Casio, and they've been Feuding ever since. yummy

Reminder, Don't be seduced by the 700 "tones" , outside of the main pianos, most of the rest is general midi 2 soundbank/ classical casio sounds, it's nothing to get excited about, kid's stuff, useful for gigging though, if that's your thing.
Last edited by xtp August 19, 2022 at 05:54 PM.
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The PX-160 is a much better buy. I bought mine new from one of the big retailers for $450 on sale back in ~2018. Like other User indicated, some of the 700 "tones" that they hype about are simply drum sounds, etc that you'll probably never use - my understanding is that back in the 90's, Casio has gotten sued for such malpractice, but they don't seem to care because the increased sales of doing such ad outweigh the petty fines.
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Quote from violian :
The PX-160 is a much better buy. I bought mine new from one of the big retailers for $450 on sale back in ~2018. Like other User indicated, some of the 700 "tones" that they hype about are simply drum sounds, etc that you'll probably never use - my understanding is that back in the 90's, Casio has gotten sued for such malpractice, but they don't seem to care because the increased sales of doing such ad outweigh the petty fines.
mmmm.... the px160 longer keysticks, so that's better yes, but the software/ electronics section is not nearly as good as the new pxs3000.

it would comes down to use case/ setup nod
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Quote from xtp :
This model has been heavily Chastised (Criticized) for having uneven touch between black and white key.

The black keys are slightly ~10g lighter touch weight than white keys. The reason they've done this is because the key stick length is very compact, and so to make it easier to play near the top, the black keys had to be reduced slightly.

This is honestly not a huge problem, because most of the time, in real world use you don't play very high into the keys towards where the pivot point is, but it is a problem for some people and some play styles.

I've played this action, I don't find it that obtrusive, but it is there. I find I can easily adjust to it though.



In terms of the "electronics" and "software" that's built into the slab, $649 is very good value.

It's a bigger "software" feature_set than the Korg LP380 ($799) going on right now. If anyone prefers a lighter action, the Casio does have that. The Korg is definitely on the heavy side.

I would argue for "piano learning", the Korg is still a better buy, because it has all the "stuff" you'd actually use. stand, pedals, key cover, Bigger speakers.

The psx3000 has alot of stage piano features for Gigging/ Portable use.


Sound quality, no question the Korg LP380 speaker setup is better sounding.

So, Out of the box, the Korg will sound way better, but if you hook up an external sound system, the Casio inches ahead.

The casio has a newer higher quality sample set (sound rom), this is in its software, if you want to HEAR this improved sound, you have to hook it up to Headphones, OR, your own Amplifier/Speakers. The built in speakers are tinny/ uninspiring, and pointed away from the user. (works ok against a wall for bounce back, you want a good 12 inch distance)




If you've seen the James Pavel review on youtube, He got into a shouting match with Casio, and they've been Feuding ever since. yummy

Reminder, Don't be seduced by the 700 "tones" , outside of the main pianos, most of the rest is general midi 2 soundbank/ classical casio sounds, it's nothing to get excited about, kid's stuff, useful for gigging though, if that's your thing.
What kind of external
Studio monitors do you recommend for a keyboard like this?
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Quote from thenewyorkgod :
What kind of external
Studio monitors do you recommend for a keyboard like this?
it doesn't matter, just about ANY studio monitor will sound better than onboard.

The only thing to watch out for is you want the BIGGEST Subwoofer. A piano soundboard is the size of a large table, in order to get that wave, you need surface area.

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