All the necessary ports for truly immersive sound quality with 5.1 surround sound.
5Gbps signaling data rate:
Plug in your external storage with this Superspeed USB Type-C port, featuring 5Gbps signaling data rate. And it's reversible, so you never have to worry about plugging in upside down
Graphics:
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 delivers incredible game performance
HDMI out:
Transmit digital HD video and sound to an external display.
Internal Storage:
256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive(15)(58c)
MU-MIMO supported:
Pair with an MU-MIMO router for a smoother online experience in multi-device homes.
9 (4 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate, 1 SuperSpeed USB Type-C?
Wi-Fi 5 & Bluetooth:
Stay connected to Wi-Fi and to Bluetooth accessories with wireless technology.
Wireless:
802.11a/b/g/n/ac (1x1) Wi-Fi and Bluetooth combo, MU-MIMO supported(19a)(26)
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CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H410M-E Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB Video Card ($369.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC Jax11 ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.96 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA W3 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ EVGA)
Total: $686.88
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You could replace the 3060 with a AMD 6600 for ~$130 less though. But still thats ~$560 total w/o OS and since I picked the cheapest options I'd be not the best parts'
I love when people come in to suggest a self-built PC in a pre-built PC deal.
Disclaimer: I'm on a self-built PC, and have only used self-built PC.
You guys are completely ignoring the labor cost/time involved in building a computer and also possible troubleshooting. Also, not everyone is comfortable building a PC however "simple" it is for you.
Besides, even if these PCs use cheap parts, they often perform and last good enough time for an average user.
So please stop suggesting self-built PC as if that's the best option for everyone.
There was a similar variation of this build that was popular here on SD a couple years ago. Albeit a 9th gen, with a 1660ti, 8gb, 256 gb nvme. That was about $400 if you could snag them at that price at WM. Originally price was 1000, then marked down to 750 IIRC. Power supply is like 435 wtt rms. With very little upgrade room. I believe the PSU has proprietary connections. And the video card was low end single fan.
There was a similar variation of this build that was popular here on SD a couple years ago. Albeit a 9th gen, with a 1660ti, 8gb, 256 gb nvme. That was about $400 if you could snag them at that price at WM. Originally price was 1000, then marked down to 750 IIRC. Power supply is like 435 wtt rms. With very little upgrade room. I believe the PSU has proprietary connections. And the video card was low end single fan.
That's like saying I saw a VW Golf for $15k when someone's shopping for a GTI...
For fun I priced out a build at Microcenter just now, was able to save a bit by going refurb/open box. Here's what a builder might do....
Ryzen 5 5600x OEM and MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi mobo - $220
CPU Cooler - $20
Refurb MB311L mATX case - $45
Open Box Powerspec semi modular 650w bronze PSU = $52
1TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 QLC NVMe SSD - $85
16GB DDR4-3200 RAM (2x8GB sticks) - $50
That's $472 before graphics card. Let's call it $500 with a cheap keyboard and mouse. A big question with building is how much you pay for Windows. I won't touch that one. This build has a faster CPU, twice the RAM and 4x the SSD storage of the HP. But a 3060 is "worth" probably $300 (debatably more), so with that it is $150 pricier at $800.... so it seems like $650 is fair for this HP.
Last edited by MaKlounkee August 31, 2022 at 02:13 PM.
Besides the Windows License, two other things I'd include is your time and value of it and if you buy single pieces, you'll have many different warranties with various stores and manufacturers.
For some people this maybe worth it, for some it won't.
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These aren't standard parts right? HP and Dell use some weird motherboards and stuff? ASUS maybe is off the shelf parts?
As per my initial post here, there is indeed proprietary connections as well as non standard case size/shape internally. Which will hinder upgrade paths etc. Most major prebuilt companies go this route. It would be wise to assume that all are proprietary unless specified otherwise.
They don't use great parts. Hard or even impossible to upgrade. 8gb not gonna cut it. That being said if you can add another 8gb ram and don't plan to try upgrading, it should be a pretty good deal. Have a friend with an hp omen 2080 system still going strong for 4 years plus.
For fun I priced out a build at Microcenter just now, was able to save a bit by going refurb/open box. Here's what a builder might do....
Ryzen 5 5600x OEM and MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi mobo - $220
CPU Cooler - $20
Refurb MB311L mATX case - $45
Open Box Powerspec semi modular 650w bronze PSU = $52
1TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 QLC NVMe SSD - $85
16GB DDR4-3200 RAM (2x8GB sticks) - $50
That's $472 before graphics card. Let's call it $500 with a cheap keyboard and mouse. A big question with building is how much you pay for Windows. I won't touch that one. This build has a faster CPU, twice the RAM and 4x the SSD storage of the HP. But a 3060 is "worth" probably $300 (debatably more), so with that it is $150 pricier at $800.... so it seems like $650 is fair for this HP.
With the current market, I'd go as far as recommending a rx 6600 as a placeholder to save on cost. This build you configured would be prime for a future upgrade when the next gen comes out. Can recoup much of the cost of the 6600 selling it used.
Not sure about the self-build and pre-build parts - I have way more issues with self-built ones than HP/Dell/Lenovo machines.
Unfortunately I'm finding the same problem. I built a couple that have given problems for a few months, so I'm staying with name brand machines from now on to hopefully reduce the headaches.
I've bought a couple of these HPs over the last few years, and I don't think you can compare it to building your own just on cost. In general, the case is terrible, the motherboard is terrible, you wouldn't be able to upgrade the graphics card or mobo/cpu in the future. E.g. I couldn't upgrade my son's graphics card because the motherboard has the power connector right next to the pci-e slot. I would avoid unless you never plan to open the case.
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CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H410M-E Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB Video Card ($369.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC Jax11 ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.96 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA W3 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ EVGA)
Total: $686.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-31 15:01 EDT-0400
You could replace the 3060 with a AMD 6600 for ~$130 less though. But still thats ~$560 total w/o OS and since I picked the cheapest options I'd be not the best parts'
Disclaimer: I'm on a self-built PC, and have only used self-built PC.
You guys are completely ignoring the labor cost/time involved in building a computer and also possible troubleshooting. Also, not everyone is comfortable building a PC however "simple" it is for you.
Besides, even if these PCs use cheap parts, they often perform and last good enough time for an average user.
So please stop suggesting self-built PC as if that's the best option for everyone.
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But thank you for your extremely valuable addition to this thread.
For fun I priced out a build at Microcenter just now, was able to save a bit by going refurb/open box. Here's what a builder might do....
Ryzen 5 5600x OEM and MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi mobo - $220
CPU Cooler - $20
Refurb MB311L mATX case - $45
Open Box Powerspec semi modular 650w bronze PSU = $52
1TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 QLC NVMe SSD - $85
16GB DDR4-3200 RAM (2x8GB sticks) - $50
That's $472 before graphics card. Let's call it $500 with a cheap keyboard and mouse. A big question with building is how much you pay for Windows. I won't touch that one. This build has a faster CPU, twice the RAM and 4x the SSD storage of the HP. But a 3060 is "worth" probably $300 (debatably more), so with that it is $150 pricier at $800.... so it seems like $650 is fair for this HP.
For some people this maybe worth it, for some it won't.
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For fun I priced out a build at Microcenter just now, was able to save a bit by going refurb/open box. Here's what a builder might do....
Ryzen 5 5600x OEM and MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi mobo - $220
CPU Cooler - $20
Refurb MB311L mATX case - $45
Open Box Powerspec semi modular 650w bronze PSU = $52
1TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 QLC NVMe SSD - $85
16GB DDR4-3200 RAM (2x8GB sticks) - $50
That's $472 before graphics card. Let's call it $500 with a cheap keyboard and mouse. A big question with building is how much you pay for Windows. I won't touch that one. This build has a faster CPU, twice the RAM and 4x the SSD storage of the HP. But a 3060 is "worth" probably $300 (debatably more), so with that it is $150 pricier at $800.... so it seems like $650 is fair for this HP.
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