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19" Schwinn Axum Men's 8-Speed Mountain Bike w/ 29" Wheels (Black)

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Walmart has 19" Schwinn Axum Men's 8-Speed Mountain Bike w/ 29" Wheels (Black) for $228. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • Mountain bike featuring a light Schwinn aluminum frame with suspension fork, great for rugged trails and casual rides.
  • 100 mm travel front suspension fork with lockout absorbs bumps on the trail for a more comfortable ride.
  • 8 speeds with trigger shifters make it easy to adapt to your terrain.
  • Front and rear mechanical disc brakes deliver superior stopping power.
  • Alloy double wall rims provide lightweight durability while 2.6 inch wide mountain tires let you roll over just about anything.
  • Designed with 29-inch wheels, this bike fits riders 64 to 74 inches tall.

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Update: This popular deal is still available

Walmart has 19" Schwinn Axum Men's 8-Speed Mountain Bike w/ 29" Wheels (Black) for $228. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member ebazaare for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Mountain bike featuring a light Schwinn aluminum frame with suspension fork, great for rugged trails and casual rides.
  • 100 mm travel front suspension fork with lockout absorbs bumps on the trail for a more comfortable ride.
  • 8 speeds with trigger shifters make it easy to adapt to your terrain.
  • Front and rear mechanical disc brakes deliver superior stopping power.
  • Alloy double wall rims provide lightweight durability while 2.6 inch wide mountain tires let you roll over just about anything.
  • Designed with 29-inch wheels, this bike fits riders 64 to 74 inches tall.

Editor's Notes

Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $220 lower (49% savings) than the list price of $448.
  • About this product:
    • Limited lifetime warranty on frame and one year warranty on parts
  • About this store:
    • Details of Walmart's return policy (here)

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Sep 19, 2022 8:49 PM
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KevinO2208Sep 19, 2022 8:49 PM
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Quote from JimBanville :
I'm not saying the crash or braking itself, at that very split second, would cause you to land on the top bar. I'm talking about that moment immediately after the emergency stop when a person may not exactly be in their most stable position.
In that moment of instability, what is the benefit of a design that does give that extra safety margin from possibly tipping over versus being able to slide forward and put both feet down?
You can lean the bike and put your foot down easier, that's what I do
Sep 19, 2022 8:53 PM
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JimBanvilleSep 19, 2022 8:53 PM
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
You can lean the bike and put your foot down easier, that's what I do
So you keep your butt centered on the seat during that emergency maneuver and recovery?

So you're on uneven ground and you plant your one foot down and it slides for whatever reason? Who you rather (a) fall onto the ground or (b) put your other foot down to keep from falling?
Sep 19, 2022 9:10 PM
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KevinO2208Sep 19, 2022 9:10 PM
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Quote from JimBanville :
So you keep your butt centered on the seat during that emergency maneuver and recovery?

So you're on uneven ground and you plant your one foot down and it slides for whatever reason? Who you rather (a) fall onto the ground or (b) put your other foot down to keep from falling?
You lift off the saddle as you lean. its not hard, try it. I literally have ridden large bikes and im 5'5" without being able to reach the ground at all offroad. When you mtb enough, you also learn how to roll on falls, Ive done it multiple times. I've even jumped off a bike going through a corner too hot and landed on my feet.
Sep 19, 2022 9:28 PM
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JimBanvilleSep 19, 2022 9:28 PM
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
You lift off the saddle as you lean. its not hard, try it. I literally have ridden large bikes and im 5'5" without being able to reach the ground at all offroad. When you mtb enough, you also learn how to roll on falls, Ive done it multiple times. I've even jumped off a bike going through a corner too hot and landed on my feet.
I'm talking about riding on asphalt/concrete. Would you rather be able to slide forward and plant both feet or fall into the the ground?

So, what exactly is the benefit of preferring a frame design that doesn't allow the rider that extra margin of safety to put both feet on the ground while standing over the frame?

So you're on uneven ground and you plant your one foot down and it slides for whatever reason? Who you rather (a) fall onto the ground or (b) put your other foot down to keep from falling?
Last edited by JimBanville September 20, 2022 at 05:18 AM.
Sep 19, 2022 9:30 PM
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gggplayaSep 19, 2022 9:30 PM
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Quote from JimBanville :
Are you saying bike riders PREFER to not be able to stand over the frame with both feet on the ground?

Are you saying you've seen a situation where someone makes an emergency maneuver (either a stop or a turn, etc) to avoid a collision where the ability to slide off the seat and plant both feet on the ground would not have prevented them from falling over?

So, what exactly is the benefit of preferring a frame design that doesn't allow the rider that extra margin of safety to put both feet on the ground while standing over the frame?

Are you saying the REI site I poster earlier is somehow wrong about their stand over advice for bicycles?
No, stop putting words in my mouth. I see that you're one of THOSE people, that put words into people's mouths then argue against your own creation. I didn't say rider's PREFER not to have good standover, that's crazy. You should read that back and see how crazy that sounds. That's like saying I PREFER that people suffer and live in agony. I'm just saying it's not necessary to double flat foot. Instead you should choose the bike with the proper reach and comfortable pedal stroke. Prioritizing double flat foot capability seems unnecessary to me. I know shorter people with stubby legs and longer torsos, I would prefer the proper reach and comfortable pedaling.

For a beginner that's never ridden a bike before, flat footing can add confidence. That is true.

For someone that's learned and mastered balancing a bike(does not take long) you don't need to flat foot both feet. You don't use your feet to stop the bike. This isn't the flintstones. You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped.

As far as your REI recommendation. You somehow trust a big box retailer for bike measurements? Big box retailers don't have the same frame and bike sizes that bike shops have, they measure differently and more generically. REI is better than walmart, but they still nowhere near a bike shop.

In the past I couldn't double flat foot my mountain bike, maybe my tippy toes. But today they have dropper seat posts and I can double flat foot with the seat dropped all the way down. Again, I preferred the best riding position and comfort while riding in my past. However, today's technology negates the compromise and I can use my dropped seat post to double flat foot. As well as frame geometries that have hydroformed top tubes that swoop down at the seat tube.
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Sep 19, 2022 9:35 PM
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I'm not sure why stand-over height is even a consideration, as any decently designed modern (in the last few decades anyways) mountain bike that fits the rider is going to have plenty of clearance. The most important geometry sizing figures to pay attention to are the stack and the reach (or effective top tube).

Get those right and your stand-over should be a non-issue, unless maybe the geometry of the Axum isn't as good as people claim it to be.
Sep 19, 2022 9:36 PM
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KevinO2208Sep 19, 2022 9:36 PM
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Quote from JimBanville :
I'm taking about riding on asphalt/concrete. Would you rather be able to slide forward and plant both feet or fall into the the ground?

So, what exactly is the benefit of preferring a frame design that doesn't allow the rider that extra margin of safety to put both feet on the ground while standing over the frame?

So you're on uneven ground and you plant your one foot down and it slides for whatever reason? Who you rather (a) fall onto the ground or (b) put your other foot down to keep from falling?
I've slid on street, I leaned the bike and out my foot down it was controlled. The point was not preferring a frame without stand over its that's not necessary. I've also been road riding for 7 years on a hybrid and road bike where I have zero stand over and have never had an issue.

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Sep 19, 2022 9:53 PM
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JimBanvilleSep 19, 2022 9:53 PM
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Quote from gggplaya :
No, stop putting words in my mouth. I see that you're one of THOSE people, that put words into people's mouths then argue against your own creation. I didn't say rider's PREFER not to have good standover, that's crazy. You should read that back and see how crazy that sounds. That's like saying I PREFER that people suffer and live in agony. I'm just saying it's not necessary to double flat foot. Instead you should choose the bike with the proper reach and comfortable pedal stroke. Prioritizing double flat foot capability seems unnecessary to me. I know shorter people with stubby legs and longer torsos, I would prefer the proper reach and comfortable pedaling.

For a beginner that's never ridden a bike before, flat footing can add confidence. That is true.

For someone that's learned and mastered balancing a bike(does not take long) you don't need to flat foot both feet. You don't use your feet to stop the bike. This isn't the flintstones. You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped.

As far as your REI recommendation. You somehow trust a big box retailer for bike measurements? Big box retailers don't have the same frame and bike sizes that bike shops have, they measure differently and more generically. REI is better than walmart, but they still nowhere near a bike shop.

In the past I couldn't double flat foot my mountain bike, maybe my tippy toes. But today they have dropper seat posts and I can double flat foot with the seat dropped all the way down. Again, I preferred the best riding position and comfort while riding in my past. However, today's technology negates the compromise and I can use my dropped seat post to double flat foot. As well as frame geometries that have hydroformed top tubes that swoop down at the seat tube.
Lol. Calm down, son. Where did I put words in your mouth??
I said "Are you saying...".
That's a QUESTION, not a STATEMENT. LOL.

Ok....let's dissect this following statement...
"For someone that's learned and mastered balancing a bike(does not take long) you don't need to flat foot both feet. You don't use your feet to stop the bike. This isn't the flintstones. You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped."

Are the all people posting in this thread and/or buying this bike masters of balancing bicycles? If not, would it be beneficial for them to be able to put both feet down to balance themselves over the top bar in an emergency? Yes or no? If no, why not?

Where did I say you used your feet to stop a bike? This has always been about how to keep yourself upright immediately following an emergency stop.

"You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped."
EXACTLY. Do people balance better in one foot or two?

So you think REI's stand over advice is flawed?
Ok. Do trek, giant, cannondale, Fiji, etc etc list stand over height in their specs? If any do, why?
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Quote from KevinO2208 :
I've slid on street, I leaned the bike and out my foot down it was controlled. The point was not preferring a frame without stand over its that's not necessary. I've also been road riding for 7 years on a hybrid and road bike where I have zero stand over and have never had an issue.
Ok. So if you put your foot down after you stopped and your foot slid, are you saying if wouldn't be beneficial to have the ability to instantly put your other foot down over the top bar to save yourself from falling onto the street?

So it sounds like you agree at least that there is not an actual benefit to a bicycle you can't comfortably stand over, it's just you have grown accustomed to not standing over bike frames, yes?

Would it be beneficial to someone with much less than 7 years experience, say it's someone in their 40's or older, that's just getting into cycling, to have the extra margin of safety to be able to comfortably stand over a frame for emergency situations?
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Sep 19, 2022 10:16 PM
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DimitrisSep 19, 2022 10:16 PM
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I don't know why that person keeps insisting he's got a medium. This bike only comes in Large. Period.
There is no way he received a medium frame, unless he ordered Axum DP in red. Every other option of this bike is a LARGE.
I conceded after I've opened the bike...

The fact is that all the measurements I was referring to are wrong, other than the seat tube the manufacturer reports...and maybe the chainstays
Sep 19, 2022 10:51 PM
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SoFetchSep 19, 2022 10:51 PM
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Oh, a bike that been a project on KevCentral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...KevCentral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...KevCentral

He builds out and reviews several big box store bikes. Mongoose and Schwinn and bikes from Dick's. Granted, I don't most guys can go to his level of build out. But the confidence is that this is a bike that can build up on and take on casual trail rides. I have a mongoose XR-pro, but I was thinking finding a hardtail. Was hoping for something in 27.5 but this seems solid.
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Sep 19, 2022 11:56 PM
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KevinO2208Sep 19, 2022 11:56 PM
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Oh, a bike that been a project on KevCentral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...KevCentral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...KevCentral

He builds out and reviews several big box store bikes. Mongoose and Schwinn and bikes from Dick's. Granted, I don't most guys can go to his level of build out. But the confidence is that this is a bike that can build up on and take on casual trail rides. I have a mongoose XR-pro, but I was thinking finding a hardtail. Was hoping for something in 27.5 but this seems solid.
Could get 27.5 wheels for this or even better mullet lol
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Quote from JimBanville :
Would it be beneficial to someone with much less than 7 years experience, say it's someone in their 40's or older, that's just getting into cycling, to have the extra margin of safety to be able to comfortably stand over a frame for emergency situations?
For you, definitely, since you keep posting about this issue.
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I bought this for my 23 yo son and he loves it. Great quality for the price!

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Sep 20, 2022 12:58 AM
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gggplayaSep 20, 2022 12:58 AM
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Quote from JimBanville :
Lol. Calm down, son. Where did I put words in your mouth??
I said "Are you saying...".
That's a QUESTION, not a STATEMENT. LOL.

Ok....let's dissect this following statement...
"For someone that's learned and mastered balancing a bike(does not take long) you don't need to flat foot both feet. You don't use your feet to stop the bike. This isn't the flintstones. You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped."

Are the all people posting in this thread and/or buying this bike masters of balancing bicycles? If not, would it be beneficial for them to be able to put both feet down to balance themselves over the top bar in an emergency? Yes or no? If no, why not?

Where did I say you used your feet to stop a bike? This has always been about how to keep yourself upright immediately following an emergency stop.

"You only touch your feet down after the bike has stopped."
EXACTLY. Do people balance better in one foot or two?

So you think REI's stand over advice is flawed?
Ok. Do trek, giant, cannondale, Fiji, etc etc list stand over height in their specs? If any do, why?
It's the way that your brain works. If I say that we need to worry about the national debt, you'll ask "so you think people should starve and suffer??" You're one of THOSE people.

You clearly have very little riding experience, or it's been a while. Go out and ride, do some emergency stops. You don't need both feet.. Once you've stopped, you can balance on one foot just fine. Remember that your bike forms the other leg of the triangle.

You also skipped over my parenthesis where I state "doesn't take long" to master balancing a bike. A child can do it in a couple of hours, an adult will take let's say 2 weeks, who knows. I've never met an adult that couldn't ride a bike. I know they exist, but most adults rode when they were children. They just need a few minutes to refresh themselves, but after an hour they're solid. This I've seen first hand with my own parents in their late 50's. During covid, they went out and bought bikes like everyone else. It only took them a few minutes to remaster after several decades of no riding.

Bike geeks want every specification, including bottom bracket height, chainstay length, reach. They literally measure everything and publish it. Standover is a number to look at, what we're saying is that it's not the priority. It's like looking at 2 cars you're interested in, but only looking at horsepower. If 1 car has 10% less power, but is more comfortable and quieter are you going to skip it because horsepower is the most important thing to you? No of course not, you take it into consideration, but I argue comfort, handling and quietness matter more.

All of this is moot because modern mountain geometry is SLACK SLACK SLACK. They raise the head tube up and keep the seat tube low. If you spend enough money to buy a hydroformed aluminum frame, the top tube can have swooping j hook angles. Combined with a dropper seat post, standover is a non-issue.

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