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expiredThe_Reclaimer posted Sep 21, 2022 11:18 PM
expiredThe_Reclaimer posted Sep 21, 2022 11:18 PM

7L Smart Cat Feeder - WiFi Enabled -Amazon FS ~$45

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$77 - $35 coupon clip + tax = ~45 shipped.

No name Wifi Enabled Pet Feeder. 7L capacity. No Prime shipping, but it is free shipping by the looks of it. Clip the $35 coupon on the page. I was able to order 2 by placing separate orders. Total for me was $45.17 but taxes will vary. Delivery slated for 9/28 and purchased today 9/21.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RBXNV7C

Technical info:
A majority of these on Amazon use the Tuya MCU's (microcontroller) and Tuya IoT platform. I've ordered various models so far trying to find the best featured one but they all sport the Tuya or Smart Life (also Tuya) in the background. That means they can be used with LocalTuya or the Tuya integration on Home Assistant. Some can even be flashed to ESPHome or Tasmota, although I haven't tried the last 2 yet. I was able to program the ones I've received so far in LocalTuya after using the TinyTuya script to pull sensor details.

I don't have experience with this one yet, but sporting 7L at ~$45 (after tax) puts it at half the price of even the 6L models from other companies. However, these are all just slight variations of the same dispensers using the same guts. Some features:
  • Backup power via 3 D Cell batteries (not included)
    • Not sure if this model cuts WiFi after power loss. Some do, some don't
  • Able to record voice
  • Able to set portions per feed
  • Able to feed from the panel or through the app. Can also schedule
  • Usable with the Tuya App.
  • Uses USB connector with a pole connector for power. Supplies 5v. Other models haven't pulled more than 250 milliamps even under load.
  • Usable with HomeAssistant via Tuya Official or Local Tuya
    • Needs some footwork to find the right sensors if you don't use the cloud pull option.
  • NO LOW FOOD SENSOR
    • Part of the reason I'm on the hunt for different models.
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$77 - $35 coupon clip + tax = ~45 shipped.

No name Wifi Enabled Pet Feeder. 7L capacity. No Prime shipping, but it is free shipping by the looks of it. Clip the $35 coupon on the page. I was able to order 2 by placing separate orders. Total for me was $45.17 but taxes will vary. Delivery slated for 9/28 and purchased today 9/21.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RBXNV7C

Technical info:
A majority of these on Amazon use the Tuya MCU's (microcontroller) and Tuya IoT platform. I've ordered various models so far trying to find the best featured one but they all sport the Tuya or Smart Life (also Tuya) in the background. That means they can be used with LocalTuya or the Tuya integration on Home Assistant. Some can even be flashed to ESPHome or Tasmota, although I haven't tried the last 2 yet. I was able to program the ones I've received so far in LocalTuya after using the TinyTuya script to pull sensor details.

I don't have experience with this one yet, but sporting 7L at ~$45 (after tax) puts it at half the price of even the 6L models from other companies. However, these are all just slight variations of the same dispensers using the same guts. Some features:
  • Backup power via 3 D Cell batteries (not included)
    • Not sure if this model cuts WiFi after power loss. Some do, some don't
  • Able to record voice
  • Able to set portions per feed
  • Able to feed from the panel or through the app. Can also schedule
  • Usable with the Tuya App.
  • Uses USB connector with a pole connector for power. Supplies 5v. Other models haven't pulled more than 250 milliamps even under load.
  • Usable with HomeAssistant via Tuya Official or Local Tuya
    • Needs some footwork to find the right sensors if you don't use the cloud pull option.
  • NO LOW FOOD SENSOR
    • Part of the reason I'm on the hunt for different models.

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Sep 21, 2022 11:53 PM
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TodayOnlySep 21, 2022 11:53 PM
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so if your internet/wifi goes offline then your cat starves
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Sep 22, 2022 12:08 AM
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DilberticSep 22, 2022 12:08 AM
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The low food sensor and I don't like the video with cat jamming it's paw up the front, that's all you need is for it to turn on and your cats paw gets stuck in it. They also need to add face rec, so you can cut feeding time down on the dry food.
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Sep 22, 2022 02:36 AM
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Sep 22, 2022 02:36 AM
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Quote from TodayOnly :
so if your internet/wifi goes offline then your cat starves
yes and no. The feeders, as long as you use the native app, stores the schedule for offline usage. Hence the batteries. If you use Home Assistant or offline automation, aka not how it was designed, then yes you can have issues with scheduled feedings. However you can still press the feed button on the front.

I'm sure with ESPHome or Tasmota you can code that stuff in as well.

Personally, my entire network is on a UPS. The ones I currently have are connected to Local Tuya. If I'm without power for an extended period of time where the UPS dies, then I'm able to understand and feed my cats as necessary.
Last edited by The_Reclaimer September 21, 2022 at 07:49 PM.
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Sep 22, 2022 02:41 AM
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Sep 22, 2022 02:41 AM
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Quote from Dilbertic :
The low food sensor and I don't like the video with cat jamming it's paw up the front, that's all you need is for it to turn on and your cats paw gets stuck in it. They also need to add face rec, so you can cut feeding time down on the dry food.
You're asking a lot for a normally ~$80 device. If you need those features then this product isn't for you. They do have camera enabled ones for quite a bit more but unfortunately they do not offer facial recognition. You could learn to code though and develop something for their IoT cloud. I was surprised how open they were with developing for products.

That being said, I have 3 different models I'm testing with right now. One of them has silicone arms (instead of hard plastic) that dispense the food just fine, but do bend if you put something in their way. It also has a stainless steel bowl which is a big plus. It doesn't have a low food sensor but it also doesn't have a see through food container, so that's why I'm still on the hunt.
Last edited by The_Reclaimer September 21, 2022 at 07:46 PM.
Sep 22, 2022 02:52 AM
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HapShaughnessySep 22, 2022 02:52 AM
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Shill city:

4.0/5
From Take-Back Reviewers i.e. shills who've had other reviews deleted.

3.2/5
From Reviewers Without Previously Deleted Reviews

https://reviewmeta.com/amazon/B08RBXNV7C

Critical reviews tell the real story: it's crap.
https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Cat-...geNumber=1

The OP: there's sucker born every minute.
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Sep 22, 2022 03:37 AM
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The_Reclaimer
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Sep 22, 2022 03:37 AM
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Quote from MrSkeptic :
Shill city:

4.0/5
From Take-Back Reviewers i.e. shills who've had other reviews deleted.

3.2/5
From Reviewers Without Previously Deleted Reviews

https://reviewmeta.com/amazon/B08RBXNV7C

Critical reviews tell the real story: it's crap.
https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Cat-...geNumber=1 [amazon.com]

The OP: there's sucker born every minute.
I do understand the skepticism, and I'm not trying to convince you to buy. Just providing my feedback, experiences, and research.

I've tested multiples of these "no name" pet feeders. They are all the same product using the same inner guts of the Tuya IoT brand. For comparison all of the top reviewed wifi feeders are also using the Tuya IoT cloud on the back end. The inner gears are pretty much all the same, with some just varying slightly such as using silicone feeder arms, or having larger/smaller portions per feeding.

While I do understand the reviews are a crappy practice, I have 3 other models that I haven't chosen permanently for various reasons. 1 only has a plastic food bowl, another doesn't have a low food sensor, and yet another feeds the portions far too large for the amount of feedings I want to do in a day. This is my 4th one that I'm buying to see if it checks the boxes for me. None of them have failed yet, however. I know many of these also try to use their own app, which Tuya IoT allows through their IoT Cloud development platform. However, that app connects to the Tuya cloud on the backend, so you're better off just getting the Tuya or "Smart Life" app (also backed by Tuya) if you plan to use it "as-is".

These are all using either a TYWE3S or WBR3 Tuya Wifi chip. These are based on ESP8266 chips, particularly the ESP-12 type. These can be flashed to use ESP or Tasmota and taken completely out of the cloud. Or you can leave them as is, and use "LocalTuya" to control from Home Assistant and block their internet so there's no cloud access. Have to block DNS too or else they stay in a "Zombie" mode.

So, all in all, if you know what you're doing, this can be a great price and product. But I agree, if you want to buy as is, look elsewhere. For the normal user, this can be a problem. Which is why I made mention of taking it out of the cloud.

Either way, for $45 on the off chance it checks all my requirements, I'll take the chance since I'm not going to use their cloud anyways.
Last edited by The_Reclaimer September 21, 2022 at 09:30 PM.

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