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In contrast, my Firecuda 530 drive runs 12 degrees cooler on idle and stays in the 40's during the same gaming session.
Both are very fast. You likely won't experience any major speed difference. KC3000, 980 PRO, 530, 850, 850X, P41 … all are top class. Get what's on-sale. I'd buy another 530 over the P41 purely for temps.
I just went through the same situation deciding what to buy for a Gen 3 XPS. I thought I'd buy a Gen 4 to "future proof", but heat seems to be an issue for most Gen 4s. If the 530 is cool(er), then it's a possibility.
If you definitely want cooler, buy the previous Gold P31 version, which is what I ended up doing. I've had it for a few days, but haven't installed it yet. All reviews said it was efficient and cool, which is what's important to me.
Speed? Specs are often just noise that get in the way of making intelligent decisions. People can't tell the difference between SATA M.2 SSDs and PCIe SSDs, so 95% of the time you'll never notice anything between Gen 3 and Gen 4, and that includes gaming...
The P41 does not have a clear advantage over others like the P31 did. So, it is hard to justify a premium over other name brand - Kingston, Seagate, WD, etc who have great Gen 4s and beat Sk Hynix to the market with latest high-layer NANDs.
Gen 4s typically run hotter than Gen 3s when max performance is extracted and so not great for laptops unless heat conduction is built into the laptop for SSDs or the storage is not taxed much (no gaming, long duration media processing, etc). A heat sink is recommended for PS5 and a good airflow essential in Desktops.
But that is not to say 4th Gen is irrelevant or not much advantage over 3rd Gen. The effects are more subtle, like 120hz screens vs 60hz screens. You might be perfectly ok with the latter but once you have used the former, you notice the difference over time. It isn't a wow factor. Assuming you have Gen 4 slot, you will definitely notice it while copying large files. If you have marginal memory say 8GB or you do a lot of multi-tasking, the Gen 4 will make the computer a bit faster because the paging will be faster. Gen 4 advantage starts to show up for any transfers over 32MB or so. Windows can do larger page sizes than than that.
A few things that lead to this. Gen 4s tend to use latest controllers and NAND over Gen 3s that may make a difference in performance. Throughput is just one spec. There is also the latency and IOPs in performance and other factors like durability. Offsetting this is the heat factor. So, broad conclusions between Gen 4 and Gen 3 are silly. Choose what is better for your use now and how long you expect it to last that way.
And finally, what is the premium of Gen 4 over Gen 3.
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Having said that, this drive has some of the best 4kb read write speeds of any drive out there. It's very snappy and responsive. I have friends who have this drive and it's pretty snappy.
The 4kb is way more relevant to understanding how fast and snappy and responsive a drive is going to be.
So the post should focus on that, not the raw read write speeds. Because raw read write speeds don't equate to faster load times
One question though. What about Gen 3 vs. Gen 4? Both this KIngston KC3000 and the Hynix P41 seem to beGen 4 PCIe drives whereas the P31 is a Gen 3 drive. Is that correct?
Having said that, this drive has some of the best 4kb read write speeds of any drive out there. It's very snappy and responsive. I have friends who have this drive and it's pretty snappy.
The 4kb is way more relevant to understanding how fast and snappy and responsive a drive is going to be.
So the post should focus on that, not the raw read write speeds. Because raw read write speeds don't equate to faster load times
What tests are you referring to for 4k comparison? In the Tom's hardware review, this drive is at the bottom of the top four Gen 4 when it comes to 4kb read and write latency and read and write times with queue depth of 1 which is typically what is used to measure how responsive an SSD is. The only time this comes up on top is peak read speeds of 4k at a queue depth of 256. This is not any more realistic than raw read and write in practice.
The KC3000 and the P41 have been pretty much tied for 1st place in most of the monthly SSD roundups that I've seen recently, Both have a 1200TBW warranty at 2tb. I believe the only difference is that the KC3000 is double-sided vs the P41 being single-sided; you'd need to decide if that makes a difference to you, but I'd say that it mainly comes down to price at this point, where you're saving $27 on the KC3000.
However, considering that you intend to put the drive in an external enclosure, I'd suggest waiting for the 2tb Sk Hynix P31 Gold to go back on sale for $150-160. You won't get better than PCIe 3.0 speed in an external enclosure anyway, and the P31 Gold runs significantly cooler than most other PCIe 3.0 nvme drives, much less the hotter 4.0 nvme drives...
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Temps dropped by about 7c-8c. Well worth the $19.99 for peace of mind, and the black version looks good too. This is at an ambient room temp of about 72-73f. Even if my room's temp is a couple of degrees cooler now compared to before, it's still several Cs lower.
Notice the temperature of the Seagate Firecuda 530 (also a 1TB), using the motherboard's default M.2 heatsink cover. Big difference.
The game and OS are on the SK Hynix P41.
I'll be replacing an older Samsung with a 2TB P31. I don't really push this computer and I never hear the fan now, so I hope it's the same or at least close.
The P41 does not have a clear advantage over others like the P31 did. So, it is hard to justify a premium over other name brand - Kingston, Seagate, WD, etc who have great Gen 4s and beat Sk Hynix to the market with latest high-layer NANDs.
Gen 4s typically run hotter than Gen 3s when max performance is extracted and so not great for laptops unless heat conduction is built into the laptop for SSDs or the storage is not taxed much (no gaming, long duration media processing, etc). A heat sink is recommended for PS5 and a good airflow essential in Desktops.
But that is not to say 4th Gen is irrelevant or not much advantage over 3rd Gen. The effects are more subtle, like 120hz screens vs 60hz screens. You might be perfectly ok with the latter but once you have used the former, you notice the difference over time. It isn't a wow factor. Assuming you have Gen 4 slot, you will definitely notice it while copying large files. If you have marginal memory say 8GB or you do a lot of multi-tasking, the Gen 4 will make the computer a bit faster because the paging will be faster. Gen 4 advantage starts to show up for any transfers over 32MB or so. Windows can do larger page sizes than than that.
A few things that lead to this. Gen 4s tend to use latest controllers and NAND over Gen 3s that may make a difference in performance. Throughput is just one spec. There is also the latency and IOPs in performance and other factors like durability. Offsetting this is the heat factor. So, broad conclusions between Gen 4 and Gen 3 are silly. Choose what is better for your use now and how long you expect it to last that way.
And finally, what is the premium of Gen 4 over Gen 3.
I've been caught up by specs too many times in my life, and sadly I've paid for things I didn't really benefit from in the end. Glad I came to my senses on this one and didn't "future proof" my buying decision.
I would appreciate it "review sites" started adding heat specs to their reviews. It's a valid data point that could help many when it comes to laptop upgrades.
The KC3000 and the P41 have been pretty much tied for 1st place in most of the monthly SSD roundups that I've seen recently, Both have a 1200TBW warranty at 2tb. I believe the only difference is that the KC3000 is double-sided vs the P41 being single-sided; you'd need to decide if that makes a difference to you, but I'd say that it mainly comes down to price at this point, where you're saving $27 on the KC3000.
However, considering that you intend to put the drive in an external enclosure, I'd suggest waiting for the 2tb Sk Hynix P31 Gold to go back on sale for $150-160. You won't get better than PCIe 3.0 speed in an external enclosure anyway, and the P31 Gold runs significantly cooler than most other PCIe 3.0 nvme drives, much less the hotter 4.0 nvme drives...
I also plan to build a new PC if I can find a good deal on a case, CPU and GPU in the next month, and may end up transferring this drive over to that build to take advantage of the PCIe 4.0 speeds.
2TB for $199 but also got a 15% instant coupon savings added to that, so total cost came out to around $170 at checkout.
Not bad at all.