expiredhardevshah3264 posted Sep 30, 2022 05:45 PM
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expiredhardevshah3264 posted Sep 30, 2022 05:45 PM
Wiser Square D Home Energy Monitor $199/$249 for Solar Sensor Home Depot and Lowes
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Where you can get usage by hour.
We have FPL and already get "estimates".
Looks like this item only "guesses" at what power is being used by individual appliances?
Just like what the power company already does..for free
In order to determine actual usage you would need to tap each individual breaker or outlet to appliance.
making this pretty useless.
Looking at the install video I laughed as it requires to open the breaker panel.
Huge majority of people on this site have never opened it up let alone install a breaker...
Hire an electrician and you will be at $400-$500 (plus all the sensors)
Time to recoup that amount in "savings" ? most likely never as this will become outdated rather quickly.
Seems like a gamble, that's why I haven't jumped in the past.
Where you can get usage by hour.
We have FPL and already get "estimates".
Looks like this item only "guesses" at what power is being used by individual appliances?
Just like what the power company already does..for free
In order to determine actual usage you would need to tap each individual breaker or outlet to appliance.
making this pretty useless.
Looking at the install video I laughed as it requires to open the breaker panel.
Huge majority of people on this site have never opened it up let alone install a breaker...
Hire an electrician and you will be at $400-$500 (plus all the sensors)
Time to recoup that amount in "savings" ? most likely never as this will become outdated rather quickly.
Seems like a gamble, that's why I haven't jumped in the past.
The apps function identically, but with a different theme. It's not a Home Depot/Big Box store thing.
They started selling the Wiser model after I had already purchased a Sense. Just for consistency in my load center, I would prefer to have the Square D branded unit, but it works as intended.
For the ultimate in using this as a slick deal, if you pay attention to the results with your sense, you can figure out which appliances are causing you the highest bills. After my first year, I was able to start targeting individual appliances costing me the most money. One of my fridges was so bad, the ROI on the new fridge was only 18 months.
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The apps function identically, but with a different theme. It's not a Home Depot/Big Box store thing.
They started selling the Wiser model after I had already purchased a Sense. Just for consistency in my load center, I would prefer to have the Square D branded unit, but it works as intended.
For the ultimate in using this as a slick deal, if you pay attention to the results with your sense, you can figure out which appliances are causing you the highest bills. After my first year, I was able to start targeting individual appliances costing me the most money. One of my fridges was so bad, the ROI on the new fridge was only 18 months.
i guess the real question will be, is the firmware version the same as what Sense has as the latest build on their website... if not, it'll go back, because that means something is special and tied to SquareD.
https://help.sense.com/hc/en-us/a...-firmware-
does it work well? i've no idea, i doubt it honestly... that's why i'd buy from HomeDepot or Amazon, so i can return easily when it's garbage
the Emporia looks fine, but man, who's got that kind of space in their panel..? i know i don't. 16 current clamps would be such a mess... there's no smarts, it just monitors each breaker, so in theory the Sense "should" give you more detailed information (which again, i doubt is done well enough.)
does it work well? i've no idea, i doubt it honestly... that's why i'd buy from HomeDepot or Amazon, so i can return easily when it's garbage
the Emporia looks fine, but man, who's got that kind of space in their panel..? i know i don't. 16 current clamps would be such a mess... there's no smarts, it just monitors each breaker, so in theory the Sense "should" give you more detailed information (which again, i doubt is done well enough.)
i'll give the clean sleek unit a try first, see how it goes. like i said several times, i doubt they did it well enough to function as it should.
FWIW... i've had an Aeotec ZWave Home Energy Monitor in my panel for years, works well enough and can output data every second. i could easily mine the data and pump it into a database on my server, then create webpages for data consumption. same data as the base Emporia unit, obviously the dedicated breaker monitoring would be nicer.
Where you can get usage by hour.
We have FPL and already get "estimates".
Looks like this item only "guesses" at what power is being used by individual appliances?
Just like what the power company already does..for free
In order to determine actual usage you would need to tap each individual breaker or outlet to appliance.
making this pretty useless.
Looking at the install video I laughed as it requires to open the breaker panel.
Huge majority of people on this site have never opened it up let alone install a breaker...
Hire an electrician and you will be at $400-$500 (plus all the sensors)
Time to recoup that amount in "savings" ? most likely never as this will become outdated rather quickly.
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