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Not sure what's with the weird intel bias in this thread. The reputable reviewers are not recommending the new Intel cards over what AMD is offering in the same price bracket:
I think it is the sour grapes from getting price gouged for years by Nvidia and AMD. A third party is definitely needed.
I'd agree though, the reviews don't look great until the software gets better. Although I was surprised and curious as to why Gamers Nexus completely ignored ray tracing in it's review.
GN Ignored it for one of 3 reasons, Time crunch is more then likely it. Two, most games that people actually play still dont have RT or at least a good enough reason to turn it on for more then a quick "Oh this looks nice" before checking the tanked performance, and Poll after poll has shown people simply do not care for RT at the cost of performance, some games it can make it look much nicer, but you also have to use DLSS or the new XESS, which kind of defeats the purpose of RT imo.
Ray tracing is still two Generations away from native performance being properly viable without needing DLSS on NVidia, and Probably 3 Gens away on AMD. Intels RT stuff does look really promising, but the overall performance of these GPUS was such a let down i dont expect it to really make progress. The ARC 770 was supposed to be better then the 3070, yet it falls short of the 3060 or ties it. Its at least a start, but they have a lot to learn and get ready before they actually get any market share.
End of the day i want these products to succeed, more competition means better for us, but i refuse to be a beta tester for software and hardware when im paying full price for it when i can just buy one of the competitors products at the same or cheaper price (especially used since these cards are 1-2 years old now) with much more mature drivers and software, and support for older games that isnt broken.
for the intel naysayers...check out the lastest LTT reviews...he's all in. and gave some really good numbers...just a few things need tweaking, but hey a brand new product line will have small issues, but i'd say for what it is, Intel has done a fantastic job.
He wants people to buy it yes, however unless you use the card from streaming / video encoding his review for games ect.. was pretty bad. We don't even want to start talking about the driver and monitor issues these cards have. I do like Intel to be competitive but that ain't it and I'm not going to waste 300 bucks when I can get a like 6650 here which blows it out of the waters.
The only reason I would buy a card is because of the hardware encoder for video editing streams ect... but most certainly not for games. They are simply not there yet.
Actually its pretty true look at Gamers Nexus and Linus Techtips. The only thing Intel cards are good for right now are modern games and video encoding. But the cards itself compared with last gens cards looked pretty weak when it comes to older stuff. However I don't want them to fail because the more competition we are having the better prices we will see.
Well to be fair that's why most people buy a new graphics card. Otherwise they can just get a PS4/xbone for cheap.
I think it is the sour grapes from getting price gouged for years by Nvidia and AMD. A third party is definitely needed.
I'd agree though, the reviews don't look great until the software gets better. Although I was surprised and curious as to why Gamers Nexus completely ignored ray tracing in it's review.
GN Ignored it for one of 3 reasons, Time crunch is more then likely it. Two, most games that people actually play still dont have RT or at least a good enough reason to turn it on for more then a quick "Oh this looks nice" before checking the tanked performance, and Poll after poll has shown people simply do not care for RT at the cost of performance, some games it can make it look much nicer, but you also have to use DLSS or the new XESS, which kind of defeats the purpose of RT imo.
Ray tracing is still two Generations away from native performance being properly viable without needing DLSS on NVidia, and Probably 3 Gens away on AMD. Intels RT stuff does look really promising, but the overall performance of these GPUS was such a let down i dont expect it to really make progress. The ARC 770 was supposed to be better then the 3070, yet it falls short of the 3060 or ties it. Its at least a start, but they have a lot to learn and get ready before they actually get any market share.
End of the day i want these products to succeed, more competition means better for us, but i refuse to be a beta tester for software and hardware when im paying full price for it when i can just buy one of the competitors products at the same or cheaper price (especially used since these cards are 1-2 years old now) with much more mature drivers and software, and support for older games that isnt broken.
No reviews are blanket recommending the Intel cards. They're at most asking the most tech savvy users to buy them to encourage Intel to make another gen. But they also still say the ppl who end up with them need to be able to troubleshoot and be comfortable with the risk. Basically asking ppl to pay for hardware to beta test to aid competition down the road. The GN teardown was Steve being hilariously disappointed from beginning to end through nearly five dozen screws in a screwless design that is nearly not user serviceable.
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This article[tomshardware.com] says that the noise level for a variant of this card (the 6600 XT) is 44.4 dBa. How actually loud is that? I've read people say it sounds like a jet engine and online dBa comparison charts[iacacoustics.com] compare 44 dBa to bird calls. That's hard to believe because that sounds terribly loud for a computer part. Anyone has any feedbacks on noise level on this card from experience?
Edit: I just tried a dBa meter on my phone an measured my computer's, and it says 50 dBa.. I always thought my computer is pretty quiet. Ambient noise in my room is 45.
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If you got that 1070 already wait til November you get more bang for the buck
I'm not who you replied to, but in a similar boat. Looking to get the kiddo a new GPU for Xmas, and this looked like a decent upgrade from hos 1060. Do you think there will be stuff avail in November at around this same price point that will be worth waiting for? I'm way out of the video card game and although I'll likely dig into research again soon, would hate to miss a deal.
This article[tomshardware.com] says that the noise level for a variant of this card (the 6600 XT) is 44.4 dBa. How actually loud is that? I've read people say it sounds like a jet engine and online dBa comparison charts[iacacoustics.com] compare 44 dBa to bird calls. That's hard to believe because that sounds terribly loud for a computer part. Anyone has any feedbacks on noise level on this card from experience?
I'm not who you replied to, but in a similar boat. Looking to get the kiddo a new GPU for Xmas, and this looked like a decent upgrade from hos 1060. Do you think there will be stuff avail in November at around this same price point that will be worth waiting for? I'm way out of the video card game and although I'll likely dig into research again soon, would hate to miss a deal.
There will be plenty of GPU deals coming in October and November and even December. The reason I say November is the magic months because of 2 things happening. AMD releasing their new cards on Nov. 3rd and also Black Friday is in November. So if its for christmas I suggest you wait a bit more. They have way to many cards and not enough people catering to them because people are still pissed what they did to Gamers in the past 2 years.
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Hardware Unboxed:
https://youtu.be/XTomqXuYK4s
Gamers Nexus:
https://youtu.be/nEvdrbxTtVo
Best to wait until AMD announces their new cards, but it will likely be cards in the $500+ range with lower range cards coming later.
I'd agree though, the reviews don't look great until the software gets better. Although I was surprised and curious as to why Gamers Nexus completely ignored ray tracing in it's review.
Ray tracing is still two Generations away from native performance being properly viable without needing DLSS on NVidia, and Probably 3 Gens away on AMD. Intels RT stuff does look really promising, but the overall performance of these GPUS was such a let down i dont expect it to really make progress. The ARC 770 was supposed to be better then the 3070, yet it falls short of the 3060 or ties it. Its at least a start, but they have a lot to learn and get ready before they actually get any market share.
End of the day i want these products to succeed, more competition means better for us, but i refuse to be a beta tester for software and hardware when im paying full price for it when i can just buy one of the competitors products at the same or cheaper price (especially used since these cards are 1-2 years old now) with much more mature drivers and software, and support for older games that isnt broken.
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The only reason I would buy a card is because of the hardware encoder for video editing streams ect... but most certainly not for games. They are simply not there yet.
I'd agree though, the reviews don't look great until the software gets better. Although I was surprised and curious as to why Gamers Nexus completely ignored ray tracing in it's review.
Ray tracing is still two Generations away from native performance being properly viable without needing DLSS on NVidia, and Probably 3 Gens away on AMD. Intels RT stuff does look really promising, but the overall performance of these GPUS was such a let down i dont expect it to really make progress. The ARC 770 was supposed to be better then the 3070, yet it falls short of the 3060 or ties it. Its at least a start, but they have a lot to learn and get ready before they actually get any market share.
End of the day i want these products to succeed, more competition means better for us, but i refuse to be a beta tester for software and hardware when im paying full price for it when i can just buy one of the competitors products at the same or cheaper price (especially used since these cards are 1-2 years old now) with much more mature drivers and software, and support for older games that isnt broken.
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Edit: I just tried a dBa meter on my phone an measured my computer's, and it says 50 dBa.. I always thought my computer is pretty quiet. Ambient noise in my room is 45.
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