expirediconian | Staff posted Oct 16, 2022 09:42 PM
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expirediconian | Staff posted Oct 16, 2022 09:42 PM
Triangle Borea BR03 Bookshelf Speakers (Pair, Black Ash or Walnut)
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Then, Assuming that I have amp+dac already.... this vs the fives?(sound quality?)
But it's a legitimate design choice because it appeals to a wider market. so just buy both and return the one you like less.
i would say, if you get a decent amp, you can probably get better loudness/ linearity out of these, but this is not a useful comparison, you're almost never going to drive them that loud.
ELAC b41 @ $68 and debut 2 @ $150 is our black friday hopeful.
I don't think budgetaudiophiles would budge at any other price this season, talked to alot of them, they've all had to cut way back on the hobby due to gas and food prices.
Spend more or go used.
The b5.2 and 6.2 are pretty decent if the price is right. Both are FAR superior to those 41's in pretty much everyway.
I have used all 3.
If the room is not small deff go with the 6.2's though as while the 5.2s do dig fairly deep, they just can't do louder volumes with bass content.
Spend more or go used.
The b5.2 and 6.2 are pretty decent if the price is right. Both are FAR superior to those 41's in pretty much everyway.
I have used all 3.
If the room is not small deff go with the 6.2's though as while the 5.2s do dig fairly deep, they just can't do louder volumes with bass content.
In general since these are not towers, near field is probably the most reasonable way to use them, and bass is decent from my experience.
In general since these are not towers, near field is probably the most reasonable way to use them, and bass is decent from my experience.
In any case, do what you will. I try a lot of speakers and do a fair amount of measuring as well and have full suites of PEQ and subwoofers handy. Obviously JMHO though.
The JBL 530 for $199 right now (refurb) is magnitudes better than the little ELAC and quite frankly better in just about every way even compared with either of the the Debut.2 monitors. Obviously in the 530 is not designed for nearfield though - not at all. They need a few feet for the drivers to sum properly so mid and far only.
In any case, do what you will. I try a lot of speakers and do a fair amount of measuring as well and have full suites of PEQ and subwoofers handy. Obviously JMHO though.
The JBL 530 for $199 right now (refurb) is magnitudes better than the little ELAC and quite frankly better in just about every way even compared with either of the the Debut.2 monitors. Obviously in the 530 is not designed for nearfield though - not at all. They need a few feet for the drivers to sum properly so mid and far only.
if it was amazon, i'd go for it, but i don't know how straightforward it is to do returns to jbl.
I'm maining waiting for debut to hit $150 ish again on BF, or the Uni-Fi to hit $200 flat.
I know i know, audiosciencereview says uni-fi has cabinet resonance and some chuff.
but I trust andrew jones's design philosophy, and those resonances are likely less important than the rest of the design goals.
if it was amazon, i'd go for it, but i don't know how straightforward it is to do returns to jbl.
I'm maining waiting for debut to hit $150 ish again on BF, or the Uni-Fi to hit $200 flat.
I know i know, audiosciencereview says uni-fi has cabinet resonance and some chuff.
but I trust andrew jones's design philosophy, and those resonances are likely less important than the rest of the design goals.
JBL has free returns so can not be easier.
$200 for speakers that are still near the top of their class at $600 is a good deal IMO. I have tested maybe 25 speakers that cost equal to or less then $600 and the 530 is tied with about 4 or 5 pairs for the best of them. Picking from those top models will be purely personal tastes. In my shopping I would actually compare/cross-shop the 530 with the Q350/Q150, DBR62, Focal 806, Polk R100/200, Diamond 12.1/12.2, the JBL 620 is coming out soon as well but I have not heard it.
The point is it competes with are of the above which all cost a lot more. (If I was actually spending $600 though I'd buy the Revel M16's for $589 B-stock or wait for them to go on sale. Best $1k and under option I have heard so far and again that involves many)
For me the OG unifi is okay. Very polite speaker that does not sound good at high volumes unless the room is smaller. There is no chance* I would take it over the 530's for farfield(or mid)myself. I would rather pay $500 for the 530 vs $200 for the unifi's. I had them both at the same time so this is an actual experience for me. *For near field I would take the unifi as I think the benefits of a coaxial design are best observed there where even a few inches of head movement can throw of the integration of a TM. Also the polite sound will work near as at least for me up close I do want a slightly subdued sound.
Andrew Jones is just a designer, there are many excellent designers that are not marketed. Quite frankly some of the most respected and talented in the industry are folks you have never heard of. Some marketing folks just decided to 'rock star' Andrew to shill more units.
Actually Greg Timbers who designed the 530's is one of the most respected designers as well.
Almost all ported speakers have some chuff and even if they avoid chuff there is nasty distortion and garbage coming out of the ports below the fb(tuning). Mainly this is an issue only at high volumes and with specifically challenging content. Likely not an issue with all but the worst speakers in the nearfield and in the farfield I always high pass my ported speakers, even in 2.0 where I will chose a frequency just below the port tuning.
Unless you plan to get on the speaker carousel with me, don't Nickle and Dime yourself. Usually a speaker is a long/longer term purchase and often gets a lot of use. Buy something you like. Saving $50 is pointless here.
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JBL has free returns so can not be easier.
$200 for speakers that are still near the top of their class at $600 is a good deal IMO. I have tested maybe 25 speakers that cost equal to or less then $600 and the 530 is tied with about 4 or 5 pairs for the best of them. Picking from those top models will be purely personal tastes. In my shopping I would actually compare/cross-shop the 530 with the Q350/Q150, DBR62, Focal 806, Polk R100/200, Diamond 12.1/12.2, the JBL 620 is coming out soon as well but I have not heard it.
The point is it competes with are of the above which all cost a lot more. (If I was actually spending $600 though I'd buy the Revel M16's for $589 B-stock or wait for them to go on sale. Best $1k and under option I have heard so far and again that involves many)
For me the OG unifi is okay. Very polite speaker that does not sound good at high volumes unless the room is smaller. There is no chance* I would take it over the 530's for farfield(or mid)myself. I would rather pay $500 for the 530 vs $200 for the unifi's. I had them both at the same time so this is an actual experience for me. *For near field I would take the unifi as I think the benefits of a coaxial design are best observed there where even a few inches of head movement can throw of the integration of a TM. Also the polite sound will work near as at least for me up close I do want a slightly subdued sound.
Andrew Jones is just a designer, there are many excellent designers that are not marketed. Quite frankly some of the most respected and talented in the industry are folks you have never heard of. Some marketing folks just decided to 'rock star' Andrew to shill more units.
Actually Greg Timbers who designed the 530's is one of the most respected designers as well.
Almost all ported speakers have some chuff and even if they avoid chuff there is nasty distortion and garbage coming out of the ports below the fb(tuning). Mainly this is an issue only at high volumes and with specifically challenging content. Likely not an issue with all but the worst speakers in the nearfield and in the farfield I always high pass my ported speakers, even in 2.0 where I will chose a frequency just below the port tuning.
Unless you plan to get on the speaker carousel with me, don't Nickle and Dime yourself. Usually a speaker is a long/longer term purchase and often gets a lot of use. Buy something you like. Saving $50 is pointless here.
Such a great amp
JBL has free returns so can not be easier.
$200 for speakers that are still near the top of their class at $600 is a good deal IMO. I have tested maybe 25 speakers that cost equal to or less then $600 and the 530 is tied with about 4 or 5 pairs for the best of them. Picking from those top models will be purely personal tastes. In my shopping I would actually compare/cross-shop the 530 with the Q350/Q150, DBR62, Focal 806, Polk R100/200, Diamond 12.1/12.2, the JBL 620 is coming out soon as well but I have not heard it.
The point is it competes with are of the above which all cost a lot more. (If I was actually spending $600 though I'd buy the Revel M16's for $589 B-stock or wait for them to go on sale. Best $1k and under option I have heard so far and again that involves many)
For me the OG unifi is okay. Very polite speaker that does not sound good at high volumes unless the room is smaller. There is no chance* I would take it over the 530's for farfield(or mid)myself. I would rather pay $500 for the 530 vs $200 for the unifi's. I had them both at the same time so this is an actual experience for me. *For near field I would take the unifi as I think the benefits of a coaxial design are best observed there where even a few inches of head movement can throw of the integration of a TM. Also the polite sound will work near as at least for me up close I do want a slightly subdued sound.
Andrew Jones is just a designer, there are many excellent designers that are not marketed. Quite frankly some of the most respected and talented in the industry are folks you have never heard of. Some marketing folks just decided to 'rock star' Andrew to shill more units.
Actually Greg Timbers who designed the 530's is one of the most respected designers as well.
Almost all ported speakers have some chuff and even if they avoid chuff there is nasty distortion and garbage coming out of the ports below the fb(tuning). Mainly this is an issue only at high volumes and with specifically challenging content. Likely not an issue with all but the worst speakers in the nearfield and in the farfield I always high pass my ported speakers, even in 2.0 where I will chose a frequency just below the port tuning.
Unless you plan to get on the speaker carousel with me, don't Nickle and Dime yourself. Usually a speaker is a long/longer term purchase and often gets a lot of use. Buy something you like. Saving $50 is pointless here.
Also would the Denon AVR-X4700H be a good receiver for this?
I want a system that can also produce good bass for music, though listen to lot of genres.
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