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EsteveM
10-22-2022 at 12:47 AM.
10-22-2022 at 12:47 AM.
For a split second I saw 6650XT, was getting on turbo mode xD... never mind it's a 6500.
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10-22-2022 at 02:34 AM.
10-22-2022 at 02:34 AM.
6600 is so much better if you can pony up $74 more
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LordDrol
10-22-2022 at 05:36 AM.
10-22-2022 at 05:36 AM.
Quote from Sugartoes :
6600 is so much better if you can pony up $74 more
The 6600 still makes sense at 55% more, but at some point the 6500/6400 has to make sense for somebody doing a low wattage/compact build, or HTPC (minus the rudely ripped out AV1 decode and H.264/H.265 encode). I don't know if that price is $100, $80, or what.
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10-22-2022 at 05:40 AM.
10-22-2022 at 05:40 AM.
Quote from LordDrol :
The 6600 still makes sense at 55% more, but at some point the 6500/6400 has to make sense for somebody doing a low wattage/compact build, or HTPC (minus the rudely ripped out AV1 decode and H.264/H.265 encode). I don't know if that price is $100, $80, or what.

It would if it were a low profile card.
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BayuU
10-22-2022 at 06:34 AM.
10-22-2022 at 06:34 AM.
Is this a good GPU for pairing with my ryzen 5 5600H APU? I'm currently using 500W bronze PSU
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LordDrol
10-22-2022 at 06:43 AM.
10-22-2022 at 06:43 AM.
Quote from BayuU :
Is this a good GPU for pairing with my ryzen 5 5600H APU? I'm currently using 500W bronze PSU
You meant 5600G and if I'm not mistaken it would be limited to PCIe 3.0 x4 when using a 6500 XT. So the 6500 XT is a particularly bad choice.
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rivacom
10-22-2022 at 08:23 AM.
10-22-2022 at 08:23 AM.
Quote from LordDrol :
You meant 5600G and if I'm not mistaken it would be limited to PCIe 3.0 x4 when using a 6500 XT. So the 6500 XT is a particularly bad choice.
Why is it limited?

5600g -> 24 PCIex 3.0 lanes
4 for M2 NVMe
4 for chipset communication
16 for discrete GPU
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10-22-2022 at 08:35 AM.
10-22-2022 at 08:35 AM.
GTX 1070s are selling used at this price. Twice the RAM. 30% faster. No degraded performance on PCIe 3.0 bus. Similar efficiency (40ish Watts more power draw).
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Teaser38
10-22-2022 at 08:42 AM.
10-22-2022 at 08:42 AM.
Quote from majindan :
It would if it were a low profile card.
RX 6400 reference is such a card.
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rivacom
10-22-2022 at 08:47 AM.
10-22-2022 at 08:47 AM.
Quote from Teaser38 :
GTX 1070s are selling used at this price. Twice the RAM. 30% faster. No degraded performance on PCIe 3.0 bus. Similar efficiency (40ish Watts more power draw).
Only downside is getting a used card with no guarantee and a new card.
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10-22-2022 at 09:17 AM.
10-22-2022 at 09:17 AM.
Quote from Teaser38 :
GTX 1070s are selling used at this price. Twice the RAM. 30% faster. No degraded performance on PCIe 3.0 bus. Similar efficiency (40ish Watts more power draw).
or rx6600M from Ali for $40 more
or 1660 Super used on ebay

$100 would be a good price for rx6500
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LordDrol
10-22-2022 at 09:36 AM.
10-22-2022 at 09:36 AM.
Quote from rivacom :
Why is it limited?

5600g -> 24 PCIex 3.0 lanes
4 for M2 NVMe
4 for chipset communication
16 for discrete GPU
The 6500 XT and 6400 support only PCIe 4.0 x 4 lanes.

First, your 5600G doesn't support PCIe 4.0, so it's running with PCIe 3.0 instead.

Then it gets limited to just 4 lanes, 1/4 of what the graphics slot is capable of.

So you end up with a PCIe 3.0 x 4 connection to the graphics card.

Cards with 8 GB can mitigate performance problems encountered by the lower bandwidth somewhat, but the 6500 XT only has 4 GB (there is an 8 GB version of the 6500 XT but it's pretty much irrelevant and I haven't looked at the benchmarks for it).

https://www.techspot.com/review/2...n-6500-xt/
https://static.techspot.com/artic...verage.png
https://www.tomshardware.com/news...en4-tested

Sometimes the performance hit is minimal, sometimes you lose 50% of your FPS. Doom Eternal [techspot.com] is one such example.

There are multiple reasons people hate this card: the low 4 GB VRAM, only 4x PCIe lanes, and worse decode/encode support than other RX 6000 GPUs. Going up to the RX 6600 doubles the VRAM, doubles the Infinity Cache (32 MB), doubles the PCIe lanes to 8x PCIe 4.0 (3.0 in your case), and restores AV1 decode and H.264/H.265 encode.
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10-22-2022 at 09:37 AM.
10-22-2022 at 09:37 AM.
has linux support or not?
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rivacom
10-22-2022 at 10:15 AM.
10-22-2022 at 10:15 AM.
Quote from LordDrol :
The 6500 XT and 6400 support only PCIe 4.0 x 4 lanes.

First, your 5600G doesn't support PCIe 4.0, so it's running with PCIe 3.0 instead.

Then it gets limited to just 4 lanes, 1/4 of what the graphics slot is capable of.

So you end up with a PCIe 3.0 x 4 connection to the graphics card.

Cards with 8 GB can mitigate performance problems encountered by the lower bandwidth somewhat, but the 6500 XT only has 4 GB (there is an 8 GB version of the 6500 XT but it's pretty much irrelevant and I haven't looked at the benchmarks for it).

https://www.techspot.com/review/2...n-6500-xt/ [techspot.com]
https://static.techspot.com/artic...verage.png [techspot.com]
https://www.tomshardware.com/news...en4-tested [tomshardware.com]

Sometimes the performance hit is minimal, sometimes you lose 50% of your FPS. Doom Eternal [techspot.com] is one such example.

There are multiple reasons people hate this card: the low 4 GB VRAM, only 4x PCIe lanes, and worse decode/encode support than other RX 6000 GPUs. Going up to the RX 6600 doubles the VRAM, doubles the Infinity Cache (32 MB), doubles the PCIe lanes to 8x PCIe 4.0 (3.0 in your case), and restores AV1 decode and H.264/H.265 encode.
My mistake, Yes I am on board with that , I thought you were talking about the 5600g limited them.
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