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Dell WD22TB4 Thunderbolt 4 Dock $217

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2 x Thunderbolt-4 ports
1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 with PowerShare
2 x DisplayPort 1.4
1 x HDMI 2.0
1 x USB-C Multifunction DisplayPort
2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
1 x Gigabit Ethernet RJ45 Port
180W Power adapter / 120/230 V AC (50/60 Hz) / For Windows 10, Windows 11




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2 x Thunderbolt-4 ports
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1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 with PowerShare
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1 x HDMI 2.0
1 x USB-C Multifunction DisplayPort
2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
1 x Gigabit Ethernet RJ45 Port
180W Power adapter / 120/230 V AC (50/60 Hz) / For Windows 10, Windows 11




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Nov 03, 2022 02:18 PM
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Tripp1269Nov 03, 2022 02:18 PM
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Nolt sold by Amazon, but lots of third parties selling at this price. I'd expect further price drops
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iindigoNov 03, 2022 07:12 PM
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There are significant differences between USB-C hubs and Thunderbolt docks. The latter are certified to significantly higher/more stringent standards and are usually capable of more (e.g. more simultaneously connected high resolution displays and higher throughput on USB-C ports). That's not to say the a USB-C hub won't be enough for many users (they are), but there are reasons why more demanding users might want a Thunderbolt dock over a USB-C hub.

That said, if I were shopping for a Thunderbolt dock I wouldn't buy this simply because its cable is permanently attached, which means if the cable is damaged it's dead forever. There are other Thunderbolt 4 options like the CalDigit TS4 and ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Dock which use detachable cables which can be replaced if damaged which I think are much more smart.
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Quote from iindigo :
There are significant differences between USB-C hubs and Thunderbolt docks. The latter are certified to significantly higher/more stringent standards and are usually capable of more (e.g. more simultaneously connected high resolution displays and higher throughput on USB-C ports). That's not to say the a USB-C hub won't be enough for many users (they are), but there are reasons why more demanding users might want a Thunderbolt dock over a USB-C hub.

That said, if I were shopping for a Thunderbolt dock I wouldn't buy this simply because its cable is permanently attached, which means if the cable is damaged it's dead forever. There are other Thunderbolt 4 options like the CalDigit TS4 and ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Dock which use detachable cables which can be replaced if damaged which I think are much more smart.
agreed. get the thinkpad TB dock instead.
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Jedi2155Nov 03, 2022 08:04 PM
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One benefit of the dock is to allow more displays to be connected at higher resolutions.

My laptop could not support my triple display setup without a dock for example.
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Quote from iindigo :
There are significant differences between USB-C hubs and Thunderbolt docks. The latter are certified to significantly higher/more stringent standards
Tell that to our IT dept who has a revolving door of HP and Dell docks going back on RMA...but you are probably right in theory. Especially with so many unknown sellers and brands for USB C hubs. However dealing with Amazon or an Amazon seller is normally much easier than calling Dell / HP tech support multiple times until they finally send you a new dock in 3-4 weeks, then make you UPS back the failed one. Most Amazon sellers will simply refund your money or send you a replacement (no questions asked) within a year to avoid a bad review.
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and are usually capable of more (e.g. more simultaneously connected high resolution displays and higher throughput on USB-C ports). That's not to say the a USB-C hub won't be enough for many users (they are), but there are reasons why more demanding users might want a Thunderbolt dock over a USB-C hub.
But if you aren't pushing the specs that hard, like most many working off a Dell laptop, might be okay to save $160 since you aren't needing And 120hz @ 4K across 3 monitors. BTW, I run three monitors all the time on a USB C hub with no problems. I'm also looking at building plans, not pushing the limits of any hardware.
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tmoney2007Nov 03, 2022 08:26 PM
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Quote from iindigo :
That said, if I were shopping for a Thunderbolt dock I wouldn't buy this simply because its cable is permanently attached, which means if the cable is damaged it's dead forever. There are other Thunderbolt 4 options like the CalDigit TS4 and ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Dock which use detachable cables which can be replaced if damaged which I think are much more smart.
The cable is replaceable, though it isn't a generic thunderbolt cable.

IF you have a dell laptop that requires more than 96W at full chooch, this one will charge up to 140W. The reality is that unless you are rendering or doing some other highly intensive task, you're not going to need that kind of power for a sustained period. Even if it has to run the battery down, it will catch up once you're done with whatever task is making your processor and GPU go crazy.

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TotoTronNov 03, 2022 10:28 PM
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Quote from tmoney2007 :
The cable is replaceable, though it isn't a generic thunderbolt cable.

IF you have a dell laptop that requires more than 96W at full chooch, this one will charge up to 140W. The reality is that unless you are rendering or doing some other highly intensive task, you're not going to need that kind of power for a sustained period. Even if it has to run the battery down, it will catch up once you're done with whatever task is making your processor and GPU go crazy.
And it's not just the cable, it's the entire thunderbolt module. On the WD19TB you can replace the TB module with the one from this dock to upgrade to TB 4.

I think you can only get 130W charging with Dells that have ExpressCharge, otherwise it's probably limited to 100W like most other devices.

If you don't need the capabilities of a high end TB 4 dock, the Dell TB docks are a nice value (the Caldigit is nearly twice as much).
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seotajiNov 04, 2022 02:19 AM
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Quote from iindigo :
There are significant differences between USB-C hubs and Thunderbolt docks. The latter are certified to significantly higher/more stringent standards and are usually capable of more (e.g. more simultaneously connected high resolution displays and higher throughput on USB-C ports). That's not to say the a USB-C hub won't be enough for many users (they are), but there are reasons why more demanding users might want a Thunderbolt dock over a USB-C hub.

That said, if I were shopping for a Thunderbolt dock I wouldn't buy this simply because its cable is permanently attached, which means if the cable is damaged it's dead forever. There are other Thunderbolt 4 options like the CalDigit TS4 and ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Dock which use detachable cables which can be replaced if damaged which I think are much more smart.
I use the Thinkpad tb4 dock and while the tb cable is short, it works really well without any strange quirks that the dell docks are known for. Also, you might as well buy a longer cable anyway. I've used both the square and rectangular dell tb docks and they all seem to have a high defect rate. The older square version is the WORST. Dell knew they were substandard and shipped them anyway. All to have them RMA'ed constantly. If you have one, you'll be acutely aware of displays that stop working randomly or having to power cycle the dock to reset it.

Also, who at dell thought that a nonstandard cable was a good idea?? It's annoying to replace as well.

The Thinkpad tb4 dock power button doesn't work on a Dell laptop, but that's the only downside. All the other features are recognized and work fine.
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odie5533Nov 04, 2022 02:42 AM
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You can get Dell Thunderbolt 3 docks on eBay for a fraction of this with the same functionality. I picked up a D6000 for $80.

TB4 are still very expensive, but the TB3 ones are bought in huge quantities by offices and then liquidated all the time so they're very cheap on eBay.
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tmoney2007Nov 04, 2022 02:54 PM
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Quote from TotoTron :
And it's not just the cable, it's the entire thunderbolt module. On the WD19TB you can replace the TB module with the one from this dock to upgrade to TB 4.

I think you can only get 130W charging with Dells that have ExpressCharge, otherwise it's probably limited to 100W like most other devices.

If you don't need the capabilities of a high end TB 4 dock, the Dell TB docks are a nice value (the Caldigit is nearly twice as much).
I don't know about ExpressCharge, but I have an XPS 17 that can draw more than 100W if the CPU and the discrete GPU are going full blast. That may be exactly what you're talking about, I was unaware it had a name. I don't think its compatible with the latest USB-PD standard (the dock or my laptop), which is annoying.

Also, the cable itself can be replaced without replacing the module, its just expensive because its special (for no good reason).
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brandonrossNov 04, 2022 03:18 PM
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I used this dock in a corporate environment. The advantages are usually lost on home users but thunderbolt vs usb wins for simultaneous output both in resolution and refresh rate, overall throughput to USB ports and ethernet not sharing a lower ceiling, and these docks have a very stout firmware upgrade process that can have issues fixed/addressed over time where others just release a dock and let it wither.

The power output is up to 130W with a 180W power supply (dell DC charger) but I believe it only does 65W USB PD charging and above that it's a proprietary dell spec. The cable is not replaceable but the entire cable section is so I'd recommend finding a WD19TB and once it conks out upgrading it to the 22 or later at that time.
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xccessNov 04, 2022 09:39 PM
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Quote from Jedi2155 :
One benefit of the dock is to allow more displays to be connected at higher resolutions.

My laptop could not support my triple display setup without a dock for example.
Not always benefit .. most Thunderbolt 4 lists support all different resolutions but if you have monitor support of more than 60hertz refresh it a wasted like my case I have 2 Samsung CRG49s and it list at 5k 120Hertz, but so far I have been searching for anything in 5k 120Hertz support was none list or exist

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ejtt7ciiaNov 05, 2022 01:31 AM
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Quote from odie5533 :
You can get Dell Thunderbolt 3 docks on eBay for a fraction of this with the same functionality. I picked up a D6000 for $80.

TB4 are still very expensive, but the TB3 ones are bought in huge quantities by offices and then liquidated all the time so they're very cheap on eBay.
Yes, you can get Dell TB3 docks pretty cheap used/refurbished. However, the D6000 is just a USB-C dock -- it's not Thunderbolt.

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