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MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi DDR4 ProSeries Motherboard (ATX, 12th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1700 Socket, DDR4, PCIe 4, CFX, M.2 Slots, Wi-Fi 6E) $172.99 + Free Shipping

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Q: Does it support intel 13600k?
A: Yes, the PRO Z690-A WiFi DDR4 is compatible with 13th gen after a bios update.
By Amazon Customer on November 2, 2022

Amazon [amazon.com] has MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi DDR4 ProSeries Motherboard (ATX, 12th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1700 Socket, DDR4, PCIe 4, CFX, M.2 Slots, Wi-Fi 6E) for $172.99. Shipping is Free

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["Supports 12th Gen Intel Core \/ Pentium \/ Celeron processors for LGA 1700 socket.Audio ports (Rear): Realtek ALC897\/ALC892 Codec","Supports DDR5 Memory, up to 5600(OC) MHz","Premium Thermal Solution: Extended Heatsink Design and M.2 Shield Frozr are built for high performance system and non-stop works","2.5G LAN and Intel Wi-Fi 6E Solution: Upgraded network solution for professional and multimedia use. Delivers a secure, stable and fast network connection","Lightning M.2: Running at PCIe Gen4 x4 maximizes performance for NVMe based SSDs"]
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Q: Does it support intel 13600k?
A: Yes, the PRO Z690-A WiFi DDR4 is compatible with 13th gen after a bios update.
By Amazon Customer on November 2, 2022

Amazon [amazon.com] has MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi DDR4 ProSeries Motherboard (ATX, 12th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1700 Socket, DDR4, PCIe 4, CFX, M.2 Slots, Wi-Fi 6E) for $172.99. Shipping is Free

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["Supports 12th Gen Intel Core \/ Pentium \/ Celeron processors for LGA 1700 socket.Audio ports (Rear): Realtek ALC897\/ALC892 Codec","Supports DDR5 Memory, up to 5600(OC) MHz","Premium Thermal Solution: Extended Heatsink Design and M.2 Shield Frozr are built for high performance system and non-stop works","2.5G LAN and Intel Wi-Fi 6E Solution: Upgraded network solution for professional and multimedia use. Delivers a secure, stable and fast network connection","Lightning M.2: Running at PCIe Gen4 x4 maximizes performance for NVMe based SSDs"]

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Nov 10, 2022
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maorsela
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vapor916
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You don't want to gimp your 13th gen with D4. 13th gen D4 doesn't beat the 5800X3D or matches 7600X 4800(in gaming). There are Z690 D5 boards around or lower than this price.
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valarin
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Quote from vapor916 :
You don't want to gimp your 13th gen with D4. 13th gen D4 doesn't beat the 5800X3D or matches 7600X 4800(in gaming). There are Z690 D5 boards around or lower than this price.
and this board has been as low as 145$

I would suggest running a 12th or 13th gen on a z690 with DDR4. For graphics or gaming you will not notice any difference. For compute tasks you MAY see a 5% difference. The current DDR5 is much more expensive for limited benefit. If you buy a slower DDR5 kit it performs worse than a fast DDR4 kit. This is not any different than we have seen in prior RAM generation changes. It was like this for the move to DDR2, DD3 and DDR4. Overtime the costs go down the timings on the new memory get dramatically better. For z690 DDR5 and DDR4 boards are the same cost.

The big difference is the RAM cost. (see pc partpicker)
2x32gb DDR4 3200 cl16 is 165$
2x32gb DDR5 5200 265$ (if you want CL28 good luck... i picked the cheapest cruddiest DDR5 on the list)
You are looking at 100$ difference for RAM with pretty limited performance benefits. Would an extra 100$ for your GPU do more? Maybe an extra 1tb on your NVME SSD?


It comes down to current sales and bang for your buck.




If your talking just gaming then AMD 7600x and 12600 are pretty close. For most uses the graphics card will haver a larger impact than anything a 7600x vs 12600.

Keep in mind the AM4 chipsets are pretty long in the tooth at this point. An intel 12100 or 12400 or AMD 7600x etc will all be similar in most games.
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vapor916
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Quote from valarin :
and this board has been as low as 145$

I would suggest running a 12th or 13th gen on a z690 with DDR4. For graphics or gaming you will not notice any difference. For compute tasks you MAY see a 5% difference. The current DDR5 is much more expensive for limited benefit. If you buy a slower DDR5 kit it performs worse than a fast DDR4 kit. This is not any different than we have seen in prior RAM generation changes. It was like this for the move to DDR2, DD3 and DDR4. Overtime the costs go down the timings on the new memory get dramatically better. For z690 DDR5 and DDR4 boards are the same cost.

The big difference is the RAM cost. (see pc partpicker)
2x32gb DDR4 3200 cl16 is 165$
2x32gb DDR5 5200 265$ (if you want CL28 good luck... i picked the cheapest cruddiest DDR5 on the list)
You are looking at 100$ difference for RAM with pretty limited performance benefits. Would an extra 100$ for your GPU do more? Maybe an extra 1tb on your NVME SSD?


It comes down to current sales and bang for your buck.




If your talking just gaming then AMD 7600x and 12600 are pretty close. For most uses the graphics card will haver a larger impact than anything a 7600x vs 12600.

Keep in mind the AM4 chipsets are pretty long in the tooth at this point. An intel 12100 or 12400 or AMD 7600x etc will all be similar in most games.
Exaclty. no reason to buy Intel if you are cheaping out on D5 And no 12400 and 12100 is not similar to 7600x. In fact 12600k ddr5 doesn't even matxh the 7600x. The only time a 13600k matches the 7600x is with 6400 ddr5. You don't have to take my word for it. Go research.

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