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TP-Link AXE16000 Quad-Band WiFi 6E Router (Archer AXE300) - $499.99

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2022 Quad-Band Router- AXE16000 Quad-Band Wi-Fi delivers Wi-Fi speeds up to an unprecedented 15.6 Gbps( 6GHz, 4804 Mbps; 5GHz-1, 4804 Mbps; 5GHz-2, 4804 Mbps; 2.4GHz, 1148 Mbps)*

*Dual 10G Ports - A 10 Gbps WAN/LAN Port and a 10 Gbps SFP+/RJ45 Combo WAN/LAN Port not only provide ultra-high-speed internet access but also open up the possibility of faster NAS transmissions over the LAN
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Nice but it and the Asus came out too late! Next year Wifi 7, and thats the reason both are finally available behind 6 months if not more! They need to stop make ng fun of people.
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Nice but it and the Asus came out too late! Next year Wifi 7, and thats the reason both are finally available behind 6 months if not more! They need to stop make ng fun of people.
Releases will be stagnated... GT-AX11000 PRO (Gen 2 WIFI6) was announced/certified a year ago. ASUS hasn't been able to clear inventory on older AX11000 model.

WIFI 7 hardware itself has been in distribution channels since last year Big Grin


WIFI7 won't really offer improvements unless clients/IoT catch on faster. WIFI6 has already proven most developers favor cost and will opt for cheaper hardware when creating products. A lot of the IoT space still operates on N/AC for example.

Dual band with the latest hardware release will be favored @ lower price points. Stuff like 6Ghz and UNII-4 5G left to the waste side Smilie


Price isn't bad for being quad band.. 4x 6715 + 4912 main CPU. Gen 2 AX BCM design. Also has 10G + SFP.. Impressive.. makes ASUS look insanely overpriced, but lets be honest, you're paying for the SW/stability on their end.
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Only 8 antenna? That's a deal breaker for me.
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Only 4 lan ports why? I have a huge entertainment center and my current router has six ports and I need two more smart things, Phillips hue, stereo receiver, tv, ooma, weather station, dish Network box. yes some of that stuff I could put on Wi-Fi but it's all right there and so easy to run ethernet cable and just have a better connection
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Only 4 lan ports why? I have a huge entertainment center and my current router has six ports and I need two more smart things, Phillips hue, stereo receiver, tv, ooma, weather station, dish Network box. yes some of that stuff I could put on Wi-Fi but it's all right there and so easy to run ethernet cable and just have a better connection
Looks like it has total of 6, not including one for wan. If you look at the specs sheet. There is 4 x gigabit, 2 x 10 Gbps (wan/lan), and 1 x 2.5 Gbps (Wan/Lan)
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Only 4 lan ports why? I have a huge entertainment center and my current router has six ports and I need two more smart things, Phillips hue, stereo receiver, tv, ooma, weather station, dish Network box. yes some of that stuff I could put on Wi-Fi but it's all right there and so easy to run ethernet cable and just have a better connection
Main CPU only supports 4+1 native. Previous designs with 8x1gbe were handled by a 3rd party controller. They opted to use that space for 10GBE + SFP.

Just buy a cheap switch.. Don't see the issue.
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I have this router. It's a good price, but it's overkill for me. wifi6 is basically useless since the signal is easily blocked by walls. I have to place the router within the line of sight to get full bars for wifi6.
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I have this router. It's a good price, but it's overkill for me. wifi6 is basically useless since the signal is easily blocked by walls. I have to place the router within the line of sight to get full bars for wifi6.
This is the problem most people ignore. The higher the frequency, the shorter the waves, and therefore the harder time they have penetrating (teehee) walls and obstructions. This is why 2.4Ghz has much better range (and why you will pick up all your neighbors' 2.4Ghz signal so strongly in your house, causing interference), but lower speed (fewer "waves" so more trips to the router required to send data).

While 6E brings with it some nice features in terms of congestion/traffic management, and while the 6Ghz spectrum will be less congested by other signals (like BlueTooth and other IR signals, and things like microwave ovens), it will have a tough time getting through multiple layers of obstructions, so it will be really important to locate a 6E router centrally, and as unobstructed as possible.

Also, it helps to create a VLAN for just your IoT devices on 2.4Ghz Wireless AC if possible, as that will reduce congestion. Even better if you can keep your old router, throw it in Access Point mode, set it to 2.4Ghz ONLY, and then connect your IoT devices just to that Access Point. Not everyone can do that, though.
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This is the problem most people ignore. The higher the frequency, the shorter the waves, and therefore the harder time they have penetrating (teehee) walls and obstructions. This is why 2.4Ghz has much better range (and why you will pick up all your neighbors' 2.4Ghz signal so strongly in your house, causing interference), but lower speed (fewer "waves" so more trips to the router required to send data).

While 6E brings with it some nice features in terms of congestion/traffic management, and while the 6Ghz spectrum will be less congested by other signals (like BlueTooth and other IR signals, and things like microwave ovens), it will have a tough time getting through multiple layers of obstructions, so it will be really important to locate a 6E router centrally, and as unobstructed as possible.

Also, it helps to create a VLAN for just your IoT devices on 2.4Ghz Wireless AC if possible, as that will reduce congestion. Even better if you can keep your old router, throw it in Access Point mode, set it to 2.4Ghz ONLY, and then connect your IoT devices just to that Access Point. Not everyone can do that, though.
Yes and no. Higher spectrum 5G (unii-3 to unii-4) is VERY close to low spectrum 6Ghz in regards to signal and penetration.

High 6ghz on the later end of the spectrum is indeed an issue without boosting amperage past FCC limitation.

A lot of the problems with 6ghz spectrum stem from limited power output via HW.. Nothing more.
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TP-LINK AXE16000 ​6.105-7.095 GHz 405.5 mW
ASUS AXE16000 5.955-7.025 GHz 489 mW
ASUS AXE11000 (Gen 1 HW) ​6.115-7.095 GHz 716 mW
No offense, but if these were at a 1W limit (same as high spectrum unii-3), there wouldn't be much issue relatively speaking. Zero/low interference would favor the 6-7ghz spectrum over a congested 5ghz unii1 (low 5G) + unii-3 (high 5G) band.

It's less to do with 6ghz and more to do with power outputs, granted youre not wrong.. the higher the spectrum, the less penetration.. its just not as big as emphasized here Smilie

Power output is a major culprit.
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Yes and no. Higher spectrum 5G (unii-3 to unii-4) is VERY close to low spectrum 6Ghz in regards to signal and penetration.

High 6ghz on the later end of the spectrum is indeed an issue without boosting amperage past FCC limitation.

A lot of the problems with 6ghz spectrum stem from limited power output via HW.. Nothing more.


No offense, but if these were at a 1W limit (same as high spectrum unii-3), there wouldn't be much issue relatively speaking. Zero/low interference would favor the 6-7ghz spectrum over a congested 5ghz unii1 (low 5G) + unii-3 (high 5G) band.

It's less to do with 6ghz and more to do with power outputs, granted youre not wrong.. the higher the spectrum, the less penetration.. its just not as big as emphasized here Smilie

Power output is a major culprit.
Where do you find the power output specs, FCC doc filings?
Is there a reason for less power on 6 Ghz? Is it the standard that is restricting or manufactures not maxing out?
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Where do you find the power output specs, FCC doc filings?
Is there a reason for less power on 6 Ghz? Is it the standard that is restricting or manufactures not maxing out?
You can look up FCC filing code on any router. It's usually on the back of a product.

I don't know. AXE11000 with Gen 1 radios (2018) has higher output than the Broadcom gen 2 AX stuff that was released last year (Nov 2021)

For UNII-1 and UNII-3 there's a 1W FCC limit in the US. I am not sure why Gen 2 BCM products are sub 500mW in the 6Ghz+ Range. Low and high 5GHZ share 1W limit on stuff like GT-AX6000.

There's newer UNII-4 products (high 5ghz/basically 6ghz) that are well over the 1W limit into 3-4W range in between...(No FCC limit?) But unii-4 (5.8-5.9ghz) has the same issue as 6ghz.. Lack of supported clients.

A lot of brands are taking advantage of high 5ghz/low 6ghz unii4 +unii5 spectrum for wireless backhaul. It works fine as interference is a non factor if you're an early adopter into this space. Lack of USER end clients won't really influence these Mesh platforms for a bit.

I'm convinced a lot of people don't own these products or have no experience with 6Ghz. The low 6ghz spectrum works fine on stuff like AXE11000, but 6ghz in general lacks user end client support.

That's not saying low 5ghz doesn't put out more range, but interference will destroy SNR. It's a trade off unless you're fairly secluded from neighbors.

You're really better off just buying the latest dual band solutions with updated hardware as of late 2022. Again, IoT/Developers favor older HW for cost centric reasons. Most products have diminishing returns.. Why does your Smart TV need over 300mbps? Just an example.


Lets be honest... If you're buying this router, its mainly for the two 5GHz bands and or WL backhaul purposes
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Just a heads up, this is now $399.99. Price is $499.99 with $100 coupon that you can clip.
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Does this router have any tool to monitor per-device internet bandwidth usage ? I want to be able to see how much internet bandwidth any given device on my network has consumed over the past day/week/month, etc. ASUS routers support this but not sure about TP-Link.
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