It has been this price for a few weeks now. While not a bad price at all, I hesitate to say it's worth it when refurbished Sony 77" OLEDs have gone as low as ~$1300 through secondipity a few months back (yes, time machines are not a thing haha). Personally I'd bite at closer to that price if I hadn't gone for that 65" A1 for $800 recently. Only time will tell if prices get that low again, but fingers crossed!
It's easy to get caught up in how low a price is, but you have to look at the reputation of the seller, how long they've been around and what their return policy is.
Allstate (aka SquareTrade) warranty is a joke. No burn in covered.
If these are just returns from the past couple months deals then you're likely receiving a next to new one. But they don't say for sure.
Checking hours on the C1 according to a reddit post.
"General > Devices > TV Management > TV Information and it pulled up my Power on Time hours."
Yes, but we can't check that until it arrives. Too risky to buy especially at that price...maybe at $700...lol
Burn-in is cumulative… Heck, You might be able to leave it on for a 3 days straight and not see any burnin… But over the course of a year (of regular on/off usage) burn-in can slowly become apparent…
Don't be fooled: if you forgot to turn it off and you come back the next day and it looks fine… you did do some damage, just not enough for your eyes to see yet.
The first thing to go will be the fact that red part of the led will start to get weaker…. Eventually to the point that you will see it… By then it's too late to do much about it.
Actually, this is why people don't suggest buying a refurbished OLED… You have no idea how bad the burnin is unless the TV has extraordinarily low hours… It's also one of the reasons why they (the seller) don't want to take it back unless it has less than 60 minutes of run time on it.
Burn-in is an almost non-existent issue these days, as long as you don't get a bad panel. You have to absolutely abuse your TV.
The most likely issue with an OLED TV is buyer regret or burn-in.
If it buyer regret then you'll probably get a very nice TV with low hours…
However, if it is burn in it probably will be a matter of degrees and trying to take a picture and/or guaranteeing a defective return full refund is going to be a bit of a challenge because they will not look at it as closely as you would when the view the image or examine the tv in person. Burn-in starts very subtly, and quite frankly some people are more sensitive to seeing it than others… Not exactly an easy thing to claim a defect on for a return.
Run a burn-in tester like this[youtube.com]. Any issues would jump out and would be relatively easy to capture in a photo due to the high contrast.
Good luck with buydig they take forever to process refunds and doesn't even respond to email been waiting for a price adjustment on the Garmin instinct solar emailed them 3 times haven't heard back at all
The burn in qualm arguments are pretty silly. I have a LGCX 65inch currently and sometimes leave it on overnight with plain words on the screen. No burn in especially when the tv is newer too.
I don't get it either. I've got 4 LG OLED TVs and have never worried about burn in. Has it ever actually happened?
I've had an LG OLED for 6 years, no issues. Best TV I've ever bought. This is tempting. I was only able to get our 65" for $1600 from credit card price matching. Those were the days...
Just to be clear I'm not trying to discourage anyone from getting this deal… I am just trying to help people be informed buyers and realize that they want to check over the TV extraordinarily closely as well as checking the number of hours the TV has been used.
Refurbished OLED TVs are a very tricky type of purchase and this is a very expensive one so you want to take a lot of time going over all of the features of the TV and examining it closely right away and without any delay… This is not some thing you want to buy and let's sit in your garage for two or three weeks before you open it and run it through it's paces. Nor would it be a good idea to buy it and store it to eventually give it to someone as a gift…again, since you want to check it over within 24 hours of receiving it.
Anyway, best of luck to anyone who purchases, I hope it works out for you. There is a pretty good chance you could just get a TV that was purchased and returned due to buyers remorse especially since these TVs are very expensive and that increases the likelihood of buyers second-guessing themselves.
First take a look at the returns info at the bottom of the auction so you know the specific terms of this seller and this TV.
In the case of a return you would contact the seller… But in some instances (like a defective item claim) eBay may process your return automatically and produce a return label for the item to go back to the seller.
The free returns part of the auction means that the seller should not be able to charge a restocking fee, but the cost of the return may be on the seller or the buyer depending on the issue with the TV… Generally if there is any defect the seller pays, if it's buyers remorse then the buyer pays. If there is shipping damage then it gets a little bit more complicated, but the return shipping would not be shouldered by the buyer.
BTW, Even if you have to contact the seller (via ebay messages) in order to dispute an auction or start a return, eBay will step in after three days if the dispute is not resolved. Just make sure to do all of your correspondence with the seller through eBay's messaging service so that they have a record of the dispute correspondence.
Sounds like you don't have a recent Oled or just nit picky.
All these people afraid of burn in make it sound like you never owned a recent Oled. Mileage doesn't matter much either. They're likely not refurbing a tv always on for one year..
Dead pixels is the most common issue. Burn in fear these days is the equivalent fearing falling off your bike when you already know how to ride. And yes it may be an issue after like six years or more. I'm not holding my TVs that long.
All these people afraid of burn in make it sound like you never owned a recent Oled. Mileage doesn't matter much either. They're likely not refurbing a tv always on for one year..
Dead pixels is the most common issue. Burn in fear these days is the equivalent fearing falling off your bike when you already know how to ride. And yes it may be an issue after like six years or more. I'm not holding my TVs that long.
Ikr
I have over 10k hours on a 2017 LG oled...no burn in.
People just are silly spreading BS that samsung marketing team started in 2019 when their OLED production was failing miserably. These aren't plasmas
Or skip these folks can skip oled deals and stop posting in the threads....
Costco still has the 77" B2 for $1999 with 5 year warranty and $100 streaming credit. Just a heads up since that's probably a better buy for most people
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If these are just returns from the past couple months deals then you're likely receiving a next to new one. But they don't say for sure.
Checking hours on the C1 according to a reddit post.
"General > Devices > TV Management > TV Information and it pulled up my Power on Time hours."
Don't be fooled: if you forgot to turn it off and you come back the next day and it looks fine… you did do some damage, just not enough for your eyes to see yet.
The first thing to go will be the fact that red part of the led will start to get weaker…. Eventually to the point that you will see it… By then it's too late to do much about it.
Actually, this is why people don't suggest buying a refurbished OLED… You have no idea how bad the burnin is unless the TV has extraordinarily low hours… It's also one of the reasons why they (the seller) don't want to take it back unless it has less than 60 minutes of run time on it.
Burn-in is an almost non-existent issue these days, as long as you don't get a bad panel. You have to absolutely abuse your TV.
Of course this varies by brand and/or model but LG is one of the best.
You completely misread that. That person didn't say, "What is OLED?" They said, "Was it an OLED."
If it buyer regret then you'll probably get a very nice TV with low hours…
However, if it is burn in it probably will be a matter of degrees and trying to take a picture and/or guaranteeing a defective return full refund is going to be a bit of a challenge because they will not look at it as closely as you would when the view the image or examine the tv in person. Burn-in starts very subtly, and quite frankly some people are more sensitive to seeing it than others… Not exactly an easy thing to claim a defect on for a return.
Of course this varies by brand and/or model but LG is one of the best.
Dude he asked if you had to deal with all state warranty on an oled TV he didn't ask if what is OLED he asked if your TV was OLED or not!!
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Refurbished OLED TVs are a very tricky type of purchase and this is a very expensive one so you want to take a lot of time going over all of the features of the TV and examining it closely right away and without any delay… This is not some thing you want to buy and let's sit in your garage for two or three weeks before you open it and run it through it's paces. Nor would it be a good idea to buy it and store it to eventually give it to someone as a gift…again, since you want to check it over within 24 hours of receiving it.
Anyway, best of luck to anyone who purchases, I hope it works out for you. There is a pretty good chance you could just get a TV that was purchased and returned due to buyers remorse especially since these TVs are very expensive and that increases the likelihood of buyers second-guessing themselves.
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In the case of a return you would contact the seller… But in some instances (like a defective item claim) eBay may process your return automatically and produce a return label for the item to go back to the seller.
The free returns part of the auction means that the seller should not be able to charge a restocking fee, but the cost of the return may be on the seller or the buyer depending on the issue with the TV… Generally if there is any defect the seller pays, if it's buyers remorse then the buyer pays. If there is shipping damage then it gets a little bit more complicated, but the return shipping would not be shouldered by the buyer.
BTW, Even if you have to contact the seller (via ebay messages) in order to dispute an auction or start a return, eBay will step in after three days if the dispute is not resolved. Just make sure to do all of your correspondence with the seller through eBay's messaging service so that they have a record of the dispute correspondence.
Dead pixels is the most common issue. Burn in fear these days is the equivalent fearing falling off your bike when you already know how to ride. And yes it may be an issue after like six years or more. I'm not holding my TVs that long.
Dead pixels is the most common issue. Burn in fear these days is the equivalent fearing falling off your bike when you already know how to ride. And yes it may be an issue after like six years or more. I'm not holding my TVs that long.
I have over 10k hours on a 2017 LG oled...no burn in.
People just are silly spreading BS that samsung marketing team started in 2019 when their OLED production was failing miserably. These aren't plasmas
Or skip these folks can skip oled deals and stop posting in the threads....
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