HP tear down of the case/parts...
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expired Posted by Mercenary • Dec 3, 2022
Dec 3, 2022 1:39 PM
Costco Members: HP Envy Desktop: i7 12700, 32GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 3060 Ti GPU
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Remember as previously mentioned, hp can not really add stuff, plus its only 600 watt system. So if u are ok to stay with stock config, HP is good. Personally I don't like hp pc since they tend to break easily, but you are covered by Costco so that will be a very high incentive for me to get hp if I am in market.
Thoughts? Should I get this HP Costco instead?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/leno...Id=65018
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Only major expansion issue I see is the no open sata port.
Ports & Slots:
1x Thunderbolt™ 4 with USB4 Type-C (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4)
3x SuperSpeed USB Type-C
5x SuperSpeed USB Type-A
2x USB 2.0 Type-A
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
1x RJ-45
1x Headphone/Microphone Combination Jack
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Similar thing with both the Lenovo IdeaCentre Gaming 5i (12700/3060-12GBLHR/16GB DDR4/1TB PCIe 4) and the Dell XPS 8950 (12700/3060Ti/16GB DDR4 4400/1TB PCIe4 + 1TB HDD). Both had some level of OEM throttling (via lower power limits and/or lower temperature limits that could not be changed).
On both the Lenovo and Dell systems, my CPU benchmarks (Cinebench R23) were significantly lower than expected for a stock i7-12700 (should be around 21500 pts). I haven't seen a score posted by anyone online about this specific system, as it seems quite new with no Youtube or other in-depth reviews yet, but just be forewarned, it's advertised as an i7 but effectively it might be "like an i5" or something.
Processor & Memory:
12th Gen Intel® Core i7-12700 (12-Core) Processor
32GB DDR4-3200MHz SDRAM
Drives:
1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
512GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 Solid State Drive
No Optical Drive
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 11 Home (64-bit)
Graphics & Video:
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti, 8GB
Monitor not included
Communications:
Wi-Fi 6 (2x2/160) Gig+ and Bluetooth® 5.2
10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN
Audio:
5.1 Surround Sound
Keyboard & Mouse:
USB Black Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo
Ports & Slots:
1x Thunderbolt™ 4 with USB4 Type-C (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4)
3x SuperSpeed USB Type-C
5x SuperSpeed USB Type-A
2x USB 2.0 Type-A
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
1x RJ-45
1x Headphone/Microphone Combination Jack
Additional Information:
Dimensions: 15.59" L x 6.50" W x 17.05" H
600W Power Supply
This is my first post 😀. Thank you for your suggestions in advance.
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Remember as previously mentioned, hp can not really add stuff, plus its only 600 watt system. So if u are ok to stay with stock config, HP is good. Personally I don't like hp pc since they tend to break easily, but you are covered by Costco so that will be a very high incentive for me to get hp if I am in market.
The first HP desktop I purchased recently (different model) would not recognize the monitor, so after hours of hassle, I had to send it back and they sent me a new one. Was it tested before it left the factory?
The new one worked for a short time but then the PCI card starting constantly dropping the internet connection and sometimes can't even locate / identify the network (a known and common issue with HP desktops). I contacted CS and the simple solution would have been for them to send me a new PCI card (which is cheap). No, they wanted me to send in the whole desktop. Sorry, but I use this for work and can't have my desktop gone for weeks for a stupid PCI card.
Frankly, all of the big 3 (HP, Dell and Lenovo) seem to suck anymore, but I'm definitely crossing HP off of my list.
Similar thing with both the Lenovo IdeaCentre Gaming 5i (12700/3060-12GBLHR/16GB DDR4/1TB PCIe 4) and the Dell XPS 8950 (12700/3060Ti/16GB DDR4 4400/1TB PCIe4 + 1TB HDD). Both had some level of OEM throttling (via lower power limits and/or lower temperature limits that could not be changed).
On both the Lenovo and Dell systems, my CPU benchmarks (Cinebench R23) were significantly lower than expected for a stock i7-12700 (should be around 21500 pts). I haven't seen a score posted by anyone online about this specific system, as it seems quite new with no Youtube or other in-depth reviews yet, but just be forewarned, it's advertised as an i7 but effectively it might be "like an i5" or something.
You can always run it without the side panel to cool things down too.
How far below 21500 were your scores and could they be improved by taking the side panel off or installing an AIO liquid cooler?
Are they software imposed because always do a clean install of Windows to get rid of ALL the bloatware? LPLs in the BIOS?
https://youtu.be/RVSveCM-Sds
You can always run it without the side panel to cool things down too.
How far below 21500 were your scores and could they be improved by taking the side panel off or installing an AIO liquid cooler?
Are they software imposed because always do a clean install of Windows to get rid of ALL the bloatware? LPLs in the BIOS?
You can always run it without the side panel to cool things down too.
How far below 21500 were your scores and could they be improved by taking the side panel off or installing an AIO liquid cooler?
Are they software imposed because always do a clean install of Windows to get rid of ALL the bloatware? LPLs in the BIOS?
Lenovo IdeaCentre Gaming 5i: ~12100 pts stock
Even when I tried to max out all settings, I noticed CPU would not go above 90C, Lenovo has some type of limiter on that
Dell XPS 8950: ~15800 pts stock
I was able to reach 100C on the Dell. On the HP forum though, it seems someone complained the HP would not reach max temp either, so it might have a limiter like Lenovo
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