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I have a Kickr wheel-on trainer. Love it with Zwift but tempted to get something like this as changing between training tire and regular tire is a pain in the butt. Plus this is more accurate, higher wattage, etc. which I care less about. I'm just trying to not get fatter, not train for Le Mans.
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"Realistically simulate inclines up to a 10% gradient." That is not too much compared to even H3 (20%), which was in a similar price category not too long ago.
From what I've seen it seems like gradient isn't much of a concern at a certain point. Supposedly Zwift halves the gradients by default and most people never change that setting - I guess since it's harder to climb on a trainer than in real life.
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Obviously. Vs a dumb trainer and a PM, is what I'm asking.
I have a Kickr wheel-on trainer. Love it with Zwift but tempted to get something like this as changing between training tire and regular tire is a pain in the butt. Plus this is more accurate, higher wattage, etc. which I care less about. I'm just trying to not get fatter, not train for Le Mans.
Obviously. Vs a dumb trainer and a PM, is what I'm asking.
I did the dumb trainer with watt meter for couple years (just the trainer alone for years before that). I ultimately went with just an indoor bike trainer.
Now my wife can use it and I don't have to bring my bike in from the garage. No incline but I honestly think that is overrated. It's also not the same geometry as my bike. No worries here, I still make gains/maintain just fine. Zwift works without issue. So from someone who's never used this trainer, no benefit and I say you're better off with an indoor trainer (for very close to the same price).
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And would you look at that, the same trainer I have is on SD: https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/783208
You have to use the app qdomyos-zwift to link to zwift but once you do it works great. If you have power meter pedals (maybe even crank arms would work), I'd suggest calibrating the app with the real watt reading.
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Does anyone know how loud this is? I live in an apartment and have been looking for something like this. I just don't want to annoy my downstairs neighbors.
wheel-on trainers are not as bad as some make it out to be. With a trainer specific tire they work pretty well. I used the Saris M2 for a few months (can do upto 15% incline) before I upgraded to Wahoo. I don't see a massive difference TBH. Maybe a bit less noise and a bit smoother.
Also once you get bit by the Zwift bug, you'll want to do the Alpe du Zwift and other KOM/QOMs and you'll really want the incline to make it realistic. Alpe du Zwift has an avg incline of 8.5% with some parts going up to 14. Yes you can lower the difficulty that will smooth it out, but it's not going to be as close to real life. If you're just training and using it to get fit, any trainer will do for that matter.
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I have a Kickr wheel-on trainer. Love it with Zwift but tempted to get something like this as changing between training tire and regular tire is a pain in the butt. Plus this is more accurate, higher wattage, etc. which I care less about. I'm just trying to not get fatter, not train for Le Mans.
I rode a dumb trainer and power meter for years before getting a direct drive. The biggest benefit is ERG for workouts. If you're not planning to use it with any training apps (or even just a Garmin workout), probably not worth it. Accuracy, higher wattage ceiling, and not having to worry about tire pressure/squeaking are all benefits. (if the tire change is your only annoyance, cheaper to just buy an extra wheel and cassette, or just go through tires quicker riding the same one inside and out.)
A more specific benefit: when racing/group riding in Zwift/RGT/etc., the resistance simulation makes it easier to gauge what kind of effort is necessary to stay with the group. I used to rubberband around groups because I would have a hard time predicting and determining the grade.
I did the dumb trainer with watt meter for couple years (just the trainer alone for years before that). I ultimately went with just an indoor bike trainer.
Now my wife can use it and I don't have to bring my bike in from the garage. No incline but I honestly think that is overrated. It's also not the same geometry as my bike. No worries here, I still make gains/maintain just fine. Zwift works without issue. So from someone who's never used this trainer, no benefit and I say you're better off with an indoor trainer (for very close to the same price).
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And would you look at that, the same trainer I have is on SD: https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/783208
You have to use the app qdomyos-zwift to link to zwift but once you do it works great. If you have power meter pedals (maybe even crank arms would work), I'd suggest calibrating the app with the real watt reading.
You upgraded from a dumb trainer and PM to a dumb trainer with a resistance knob and a calibrate-yourself PM. If you have the space for an indoor bike, and someone else to use it, sure. If you don't have that space, or you're looking for ERG and self-changing resistance, this is a better option. To each their own.
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Also worth noting with more bikes transitioning to thru-axle:
"Suitable Axles: Width of rear fork: Race 130 mm, MTB 135 mm. Adapters for other widths available
Includes: Quick release for road bikes and mountain bikes (5mm)"
Looks like adapters are $30-40.
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Now my wife can use it and I don't have to bring my bike in from the garage. No incline but I honestly think that is overrated. It's also not the same geometry as my bike. No worries here, I still make gains/maintain just fine. Zwift works without issue. So from someone who's never used this trainer, no benefit and I say you're better off with an indoor trainer (for very close to the same price).
Edit:
And would you look at that, the same trainer I have is on SD:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/783208
You have to use the app qdomyos-zwift to link to zwift but once you do it works great. If you have power meter pedals (maybe even crank arms would work), I'd suggest calibrating the app with the real watt reading.
Also once you get bit by the Zwift bug, you'll want to do the Alpe du Zwift and other KOM/QOMs and you'll really want the incline to make it realistic. Alpe du Zwift has an avg incline of 8.5% with some parts going up to 14. Yes you can lower the difficulty that will smooth it out, but it's not going to be as close to real life. If you're just training and using it to get fit, any trainer will do for that matter.
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A more specific benefit: when racing/group riding in Zwift/RGT/etc., the resistance simulation makes it easier to gauge what kind of effort is necessary to stay with the group. I used to rubberband around groups because I would have a hard time predicting and determining the grade.
Now my wife can use it and I don't have to bring my bike in from the garage. No incline but I honestly think that is overrated. It's also not the same geometry as my bike. No worries here, I still make gains/maintain just fine. Zwift works without issue. So from someone who's never used this trainer, no benefit and I say you're better off with an indoor trainer (for very close to the same price).
Edit:
And would you look at that, the same trainer I have is on SD:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/783208
You have to use the app qdomyos-zwift to link to zwift but once you do it works great. If you have power meter pedals (maybe even crank arms would work), I'd suggest calibrating the app with the real watt reading.
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"Suitable Axles: Width of rear fork: Race 130 mm, MTB 135 mm. Adapters for other widths available
Includes: Quick release for road bikes and mountain bikes (5mm)"
Looks like adapters are $30-40.
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