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forum threadVioletField975 posted Dec 21, 2022 05:26 PM
forum threadVioletField975 posted Dec 21, 2022 05:26 PM

Sony Alpha a6400 Mirrorless 24.2MP 4K Camera Body Only, $100 OFF -> $798

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Dec 23, 2022 06:31 AM
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JonnyMarkDec 23, 2022 06:31 AM
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Lowest price for this camera in 2 years, I bought this camera in July this year and its great, be ready to buy lens to get the most out of this camera because without a good lens this camera just outputs video.

I bought the kit lens 16-50mm to get an idea of what the shots will look then I bought Sigma (16mm 30mm 56mm) lens those are really good, also have Sony 18-105mm since that one has image stability. For zoom Sony 55-210mm with TCON-17X tele converter, usually tele converter hurt image quality but not that one makes its image sharper.
Dec 23, 2022 06:32 AM
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JonnyMarkDec 23, 2022 06:32 AM
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Lowest price for this camera in 2 years, I bought this camera in July this year and its great, be ready to buy lens to get the most out of this camera because without a good lens this camera just outputs video.

I bought the kit lens 16-50mm to get an idea of what the shots will look then I bought Sigma (16mm 30mm 56mm) lens those are really good, also have Sony 18-105mm since that one has image stability. For zoom Sony 55-210mm with TCON-17X tele converter, usually tele converter hurt image quality but not that one makes its image sharper.
Dec 24, 2022 06:14 AM
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az060693Dec 24, 2022 06:14 AM
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Would probably get either the Sigma or Tamron standard 2.8 zooms for this.

Sigma has better bokeh and feels/looks better and is smaller and lighter. Also much cheaper.

Tamron is larger and more plasticky but has better sealing; has multiple gaskets. Sigma iirc, has none. Also has optical stabilization, which is a big benefit seeing as this doesn't have IBIS. Has worse bokeh though and you lose a bit of FOV on the wide end. But much more range on the long end.

Both fairly even in terms of optical performance though.
Dec 24, 2022 04:48 PM
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DJ_SAMMY_DDec 24, 2022 04:48 PM
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Quote from az060693 :
Would probably get either the Sigma or Tamron standard 2.8 zooms for this.

Sigma has better bokeh and feels/looks better and is smaller and lighter. Also much cheaper.

Tamron is larger and more plasticky but has better sealing; has multiple gaskets. Sigma iirc, has none. Also has optical stabilization, which is a big benefit seeing as this doesn't have IBIS. Has worse bokeh though and you lose a bit of FOV on the wide end. But much more range on the long end.

Both fairly even in terms of optical performance though.
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Dec 25, 2022 09:32 PM
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aieronimoDec 25, 2022 09:32 PM
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I have the A6000. Am trying to decide whether worthwhile to upgrade for this $100 "discount," which brings the $898 normal price down to $798. Not an enormous discount. On the upside, the focus system, with the "eye" focus, is better. On the downside, the sensor dates from March 2019 (nearly 4 years old), so the low-light performance is not a lot better than the A6000.

What do folks think? Maybe wait until 2023 to see if Sony updates to a new APS-C model?
Dec 25, 2022 10:08 PM
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caveman017Dec 25, 2022 10:08 PM
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Quote from aieronimo :
I have the A6000. Am trying to decide whether worthwhile to upgrade for this $100 "discount," which brings the $898 normal price down to $798. Not an enormous discount. On the upside, the focus system, with the "eye" focus, is better. On the downside, the sensor dates from March 2019 (nearly 4 years old), so the low-light performance is not a lot better than the A6000.

What do folks think? Maybe wait until 2023 to see if Sony updates to a new APS-C model?
Imho, seems like a minor upgrade. The sensor is from 2016
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Dec 26, 2022 09:56 AM
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JonnyMarkDec 26, 2022 09:56 AM
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Quote from caveman017 :
Imho, seems like a minor upgrade. The sensor is from 2016
Minor upgrade...

Do you know anything about cameras?

Quote from aieronimo :
I have the A6000. Am trying to decide whether worthwhile to upgrade for this $100 "discount," which brings the $898 normal price down to $798. Not an enormous discount. On the upside, the focus system, with the "eye" focus, is better. On the downside, the sensor dates from March 2019 (nearly 4 years old), so the low-light performance is not a lot better than the A6000.

What do folks think? Maybe wait until 2023 to see if Sony updates to a new APS-C model?
A6400:
4k 30FPS 1080 120FPS (a6000 = 1080p 60fps)
S-LOG (a6000 = none)
Clean HDMI (a6000 = none)
Unlimited Record (a6000 = 30min)
Flip up screen (a6000 = none)

If you only take pictures keep the a6000, but if you shoot video the S-LOG alone is the selling point because it gives it better low light performance, by overexposing 18% Grey to 55% slog-2 to M.M +2.0 blinking, you can keep doing this 3-4 stops overexpose to get even more low light performance (reduce noise) at the loss of highlights https://www.alisterchapman.com/20...-exposure/ everyone using these camera should be shooting in LOG.

The upgrade to this camera I would say is the FX30 $1800
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Dec 26, 2022 11:51 AM
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OoTLinkDec 26, 2022 11:51 AM
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Quote from JonnyMark :
Minor upgrade...

Do you know anything about cameras?



A6400:
4k 30FPS 1080 120FPS (a6000 = 1080p 60fps)
S-LOG (a6000 = none)
Clean HDMI (a6000 = none)
Unlimited Record (a6000 = 30min)
Flip up screen (a6000 = none)

If you only take pictures keep the a6000, but if you shoot video the S-LOG alone is the selling point because it gives it better low light performance, by overexposing 18% Grey to 55% slog-2 to M.M +2.0 blinking, you can keep doing this 3-4 stops overexpose to get even more low light performance (reduce noise) at the loss of highlights https://www.alisterchapman.com/20...-exposure/ everyone using these camera should be shooting in LOG.

The upgrade to this camera I would say is the FX30 $1800
Thoughts on this Vs an a7iii?
Dec 26, 2022 01:31 PM
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aieronimoDec 26, 2022 01:31 PM
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Thanks both to Caveman017 and JonnyMark for their comments above. I am primarily interested in photos rather than video, so decided to sit out this $100-off promo and see what Sony might (or might not) introduce in 2023.

(The promo ended on December 25, FYI, although a few straggler deals might remain out there.)

Regarding the A6400 vs. the a7iii, the latter has a larger sensor and so will perform better in low-light situations. The a7iii also has lens stabilization built into the camera body, whereas the A6400 does not. There are other significant differences, as the a7iii is another level of camera (with another level of lenses). However, the a7iii is also a larger camera and at least twice as expensive.
Dec 26, 2022 04:57 PM
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gameshoesDec 26, 2022 04:57 PM
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Quote from aieronimo :
I have the A6000. Am trying to decide whether worthwhile to upgrade for this $100 "discount," which brings the $898 normal price down to $798. Not an enormous discount. On the upside, the focus system, with the "eye" focus, is better. On the downside, the sensor dates from March 2019 (nearly 4 years old), so the low-light performance is not a lot better than the A6000.

What do folks think? Maybe wait until 2023 to see if Sony updates to a new APS-C model?
Since you have the A6000, look at the A6400 solely for the autofocus. Having better AF can lead to a more enjoyable experience if you felt your A6000 wasn't able to follow your subjects. There won't be any image quality upgrades that are perceptible to the eye.
Dec 26, 2022 09:34 PM
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aieronimoDec 26, 2022 09:34 PM
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Quote from gameshoes :
Since you have the A6000, look at the A6400 solely for the autofocus. Having better AF can lead to a more enjoyable experience if you felt your A6000 wasn't able to follow your subjects. There won't be any image quality upgrades that are perceptible to the eye.
Many thanks for this advice.
Dec 27, 2022 12:01 AM
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caveman017Dec 27, 2022 12:01 AM
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Quote from JonnyMark :
Minor upgrade...

Do you know anything about cameras?



A6400:
4k 30FPS 1080 120FPS (a6000 = 1080p 60fps)
S-LOG (a6000 = none)
Clean HDMI (a6000 = none)
Unlimited Record (a6000 = 30min)
Flip up screen (a6000 = none)

If you only take pictures keep the a6000, but if you shoot video the S-LOG alone is the selling point because it gives it better low light performance, by overexposing 18% Grey to 55% slog-2 to M.M +2.0 blinking, you can keep doing this 3-4 stops overexpose to get even more low light performance (reduce noise) at the loss of highlights https://www.alisterchapman.com/20...-exposure/ everyone using these camera should be shooting in LOG.

The upgrade to this camera I would say is the FX30 $1800
Yes, actually I do know a ton about cameras. For still photography it's a minor upgrade and coming from an A6000 isn't worth it at this price. At least the A6500 and A6600 have IBIS, albeit on the same sensor.
Dec 27, 2022 06:45 PM
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dkclark329Dec 27, 2022 06:45 PM
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Quote from caveman017 :
Yes, actually I do know a ton about cameras. For still photography it's a minor upgrade and coming from an A6000 isn't worth it at this price. At least the A6500 and A6600 have IBIS, albeit on the same sensor.
There is a massive upgrade in the autofocus. For sports, kids, pets, and wildlife the autofocus on the a6000 vs a6400 are in different leagues. If shooting calmer subjects such as landscape, street, and portraits, then I would agree that the upgrade price isn't worth it. As an a6000 user since 2015, I've gone round and round on this debate. I want significantly more keeper shots of my kids and pets, so I feel the need to upgrade for the autofocus alone.

Sony's lack of announcement on whether or not we get ANY new APS-C bodies in 2023 is frustrating. If they release a new model within a year, I will personally be much happier waiting to get that instead and using the heck out of the new/hopeful features as I transition back into doing paid work on the side.

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