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*YMMV* Tesla Model 3 and Model Y: Take delivery between 12/21/2022 and 12/31/2022, and receive $7,500 discount and 10,000 Supercharger credits

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Hello, I hope you're well.

Tesla is offering certain customers a $7,500 discount and 10,000 Supercharger credits if they take delivery of a Model 3 or Model Y by 12/31/2022. Check your text message; here is an example.

Yesterday, I posted about how the Model 3 RWD and Model Y will qualify for the full Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) $7,500 if you take delivery in January or February 2023 (of course, if Tesla runs promotions or drop prices in early 2023, there could be better savings then). This is better in several major ways:
  • Lower sales tax because this is a discount, not a tax credit
  • You get the discount immediately, instead of having to wait until 2024 when you file taxes for 2023
  • You get 10,000 Supercharger credits, which is valued at between $500 and $900
  • If you're financing, you don't have to pay interest on the $7,500
  • (For some people) If you didn't qualify for the tax credit due to being over the income limit, you don't have to worry about that at all
  • 12/29/2022 UPDATE: IRS published its list [irs.gov], and some vehicles will not qualify for the tax credit that starts in 2023; of note, Model Y 5-Seat does not qualify because it passes the $55,000 limit, whereas the Model Y 7-Seat does qualify because it is below the $80,000 limit.
  • 01/04/2022 UPDATE: The 10,000 Supercharger miles (which is actually 4,000 kWH) have been added to the Tesla App. Check Settings > Loot Box.
Author's Note: This is a deal thread, not a political thread or a thread for people who dislike Tesla. Please refrain from going off topic or thumbing down this thread. You have every right to hate Tesla and its CEO, but please don't thumb down a thread related to Tesla simply because of that. Slickdeals is a deal-hunting forum above all else, and I'd greatly appreciate it if we treat threads in Hot Deals as deal threads and nothing else. Thank you.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic

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Hello, I hope you're well.

Tesla is offering certain customers a $7,500 discount and 10,000 Supercharger credits if they take delivery of a Model 3 or Model Y by 12/31/2022. Check your text message; here is an example.

Yesterday, I posted about how the Model 3 RWD and Model Y will qualify for the full Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) $7,500 if you take delivery in January or February 2023 (of course, if Tesla runs promotions or drop prices in early 2023, there could be better savings then). This is better in several major ways:
  • Lower sales tax because this is a discount, not a tax credit
  • You get the discount immediately, instead of having to wait until 2024 when you file taxes for 2023
  • You get 10,000 Supercharger credits, which is valued at between $500 and $900
  • If you're financing, you don't have to pay interest on the $7,500
  • (For some people) If you didn't qualify for the tax credit due to being over the income limit, you don't have to worry about that at all
  • 12/29/2022 UPDATE: IRS published its list [irs.gov], and some vehicles will not qualify for the tax credit that starts in 2023; of note, Model Y 5-Seat does not qualify because it passes the $55,000 limit, whereas the Model Y 7-Seat does qualify because it is below the $80,000 limit.
  • 01/04/2022 UPDATE: The 10,000 Supercharger miles (which is actually 4,000 kWH) have been added to the Tesla App. Check Settings > Loot Box.
Author's Note: This is a deal thread, not a political thread or a thread for people who dislike Tesla. Please refrain from going off topic or thumbing down this thread. You have every right to hate Tesla and its CEO, but please don't thumb down a thread related to Tesla simply because of that. Slickdeals is a deal-hunting forum above all else, and I'd greatly appreciate it if we treat threads in Hot Deals as deal threads and nothing else. Thank you.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic

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Jan 03, 2023 02:59 AM
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fujifanJan 03, 2023 02:59 AM
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They clawed. Paid cash.
Jan 03, 2023 03:01 AM
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malaysiafangJan 03, 2023 03:01 AM
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Quote from fujifan :
They clawed. Paid cash.
Did they not allow pickup ? How so
I picked up arojnd 6 or 7 am on new years 1/1
But I hit accept delivery button on app on the 31st
Jan 03, 2023 03:05 AM
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fujifanJan 03, 2023 03:05 AM
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car was more than 200 miles away, not pick up option given. no ability to accept on app. talked to tesla reps around 2pm and they said they will update me later in the day, never did.

why should it be on the consumer to deliver their end of the contract? big corp should be held responsible for their screw ups.
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Jan 03, 2023 03:20 AM
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stanleychanJan 03, 2023 03:20 AM
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Quote from fujifan :
anyone else got screwed by tesla for the 'delay' in delivery and now clawing back the 7500 discount? not sure why its fair for customers who paid and therefore 'made their sales numbers' to be screwed out of the discount when tesla can't get their operations together.... waiting for someone to start a class action lawsuit...
Did Tesla take your money but did not deliver? My appointment was at 1:00PM on 12/31, but got rescheduled multiple times. I waited and waited and the car finally showed up at 11:45PM where they just told me to take it or leave it. They took my money 2 days ago and the Bank cleared the transaction. I also saw another customer where Tesla sales advisor was trying to give back the check to him since they are likely unable to deliver the car at that point. I'm not sure what happened afterwards since I had to rush to take delivery before 11:59PM. By the way, the sales advisor stated that not only do you have to accept the delivery, you also need to leave the lot by 11:59PM or they will claw back the $7500. I asked if I can record that for the record, but he refused and said he's just following orders.
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Jan 03, 2023 03:30 AM
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stanleychanJan 03, 2023 03:30 AM
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Quote from Travis64 :
It said in clear print must take delivery by 31st
You cant double dip with tax rebate
I do not think it's that simple. Tesla can refuse to sell the car since the delivery did not happen on 31st and did not take the customer's full payment. However, it becomes murky if Tesla has taken the full money and the customer has executed all of the assigned task. Consider the following:

1. Tesla has offered the sale of the car and claimed it has in its inventory.
2. Tesla has assigned the customer VIN and assigned tasks for the paperwork.
3. Customer diligently executed all of the required tasks and make full payment.
4. Tesla took the full payment.
5. Tesla failed to deliver the car.

While the contract maybe null and void, but in this case, customer may have actionable case claiming damage for negligence on Tesla part or force contract performance. I'm not a lawyer, but for those who suffered lost as a result, I would recommend seriously consider their options, including consulting with a lawyer.

@Travis64 - this is not about double dipping with tax rebate, as that's a separate issue.
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Jan 03, 2023 03:43 AM
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fujifanJan 03, 2023 03:43 AM
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Quote from stanleychan :
I do not think it's that simple. Tesla can refuse to sell the car since the delivery did not happen on 31st and did not take the customer's full payment. However, it becomes murky if Tesla has taken the full money and the customer has executed all of the assigned task. Consider the following:

1. Tesla has offered the sale of the car and claimed it has in its inventory.
2. Tesla has assigned the customer VIN and assigned tasks for the paperwork.
3. Customer diligently executed all of the required tasks and make full payment.
4. Tesla took the full payment.
5. Tesla failed to deliver the car.

While the contract maybe null and void, but in this case, customer may have actionable case claiming damage for negligence on Tesla part or force contract performance. I'm not a lawyer, but for those who suffered lost as a result, I would recommend seriously consider their options, including consulting with a lawyer.

@Travis64 - this is not about double dipping with tax rebate, as that's a separate issue.
Thanks. And yes. I was fully ready to take delivery and in fact Tesla told me numerous times that my car was en route for 31st delivery until they went awol that afternoon so the contract was all done but for Tesla's inability to perform their end of the contract. God forbid a class action lawsuit discovers that internally Tesla met a certain number they wanted to hit (albeit lower than their previously targeted number) and decided the $7500 per car was worth more internally.

And I'm against all this standing up for big corporations especially within the slickdeals community. Why assume that it's always the consumer's fault? My default is almost always to point the arrow at shady big corporations.

Finally, tax credit has nothing to do with Tesla's bottom line. Whether or not me as a consumer can get a tax credit is between me and the federal government. My contract was never "contingent" upon tax credits.

I got the model y today, and I believe I suffered damages in the amount of $7500 as result of Tesla's unfair business practice. I don't have the resources to start a class action lawsuit but will join if one is being filed.
Jan 03, 2023 04:06 AM
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Asian888Jan 03, 2023 04:06 AM
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Quote from fujifan :
Thanks. And yes. I was fully ready to take delivery and in fact Tesla told me numerous times that my car was en route for 31st delivery until they went awol that afternoon so the contract was all done but for Tesla's inability to perform their end of the contract. God forbid a class action lawsuit discovers that internally Tesla met a certain number they wanted to hit (albeit lower than their previously targeted number) and decided the $7500 per car was worth more internally.

And I'm against all this standing up for big corporations especially within the slickdeals community. Why assume that it's always the consumer's fault? My default is almost always to point the arrow at shady big corporations.

Finally, tax credit has nothing to do with Tesla's bottom line. Whether or not me as a consumer can get a tax credit is between me and the federal government. My contract was never "contingent" upon tax credits.

I got the model y today, and I believe I suffered damages in the amount of $7500 as result of Tesla's unfair business practice. I don't have the resources to start a class action lawsuit but will join if one is being filed.
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Jan 03, 2023 04:42 AM
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ps9Jan 03, 2023 04:42 AM
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Quote from Asian888 :
File a BBB
It's already the lowest rating. They don't care about that
Jan 03, 2023 12:27 PM
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malaysiafangJan 03, 2023 12:27 PM
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Quote from stanleychan :
Did Tesla take your money but did not deliver? My appointment was at 1:00PM on 12/31, but got rescheduled multiple times. I waited and waited and the car finally showed up at 11:45PM where they just told me to take it or leave it. They took my money 2 days ago and the Bank cleared the transaction. I also saw another customer where Tesla sales advisor was trying to give back the check to him since they are likely unable to deliver the car at that point. I'm not sure what happened afterwards since I had to rush to take delivery before 11:59PM. By the way, the sales advisor stated that not only do you have to accept the delivery, you also need to leave the lot by 11:59PM or they will claw back the $7500. I asked if I can record that for the record, but he refused and said he's just following orders.
This was not true . They did an audit at 8 am . The car needed to have left the parking lot by 8 am
And also the consumer needed to press "accept delivery " on app before 11:59 pm on 12/31

I picked mine up at 6 am 1/1
But I clicked accept delivery 11:30 pm
I drove 8 hours in the rain and broke down and had to get towed to go pick up this stupid car
Last edited by malaysiafang January 3, 2023 at 05:32 AM.
Jan 03, 2023 12:31 PM
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malaysiafangJan 03, 2023 12:31 PM
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Quote from fujifan :
Thanks. And yes. I was fully ready to take delivery and in fact Tesla told me numerous times that my car was en route for 31st delivery until they went awol that afternoon so the contract was all done but for Tesla's inability to perform their end of the contract. God forbid a class action lawsuit discovers that internally Tesla met a certain number they wanted to hit (albeit lower than their previously targeted number) and decided the $7500 per car was worth more internally.

And I'm against all this standing up for big corporations especially within the slickdeals community. Why assume that it's always the consumer's fault? My default is almost always to point the arrow at shady big corporations.

Finally, tax credit has nothing to do with Tesla's bottom line. Whether or not me as a consumer can get a tax credit is between me and the federal government. My contract was never "contingent" upon tax credits.

I got the model y today, and I believe I suffered damages in the amount of $7500 as result of Tesla's unfair business practice. I don't have the resources to start a class action lawsuit but will join if one is being filed.
You didn't suffer cause you didn't click "accept delivery" button .
So nothifn is guaranteed until they locate your car . I'm sorry
Jan 03, 2023 05:28 PM
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stanleychanJan 03, 2023 05:28 PM
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Quote from malaysiafang :
This was not true . They did an audit at 8 am . The car needed to have left the parking lot by 8 am
And also the consumer needed to press "accept delivery " on app before 11:59 pm on 12/31

I picked mine up at 6 am 1/1
But I clicked accept delivery 11:30 pm
I drove 8 hours in the rain and broke down and had to get towed to go pick up this stupid car
While I understand the requirement of pressing the "accept delivery", but I'm at a lost on why the need for the car leaving the parking lot. My initial guess was that the Tesla employees need to close up the dealership (understand so due to the chaotic delivery process and new year's eve), but requiring as part of the terms of the promotion seems excessive.
Jan 03, 2023 05:32 PM
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shyboyJan 03, 2023 05:32 PM
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Quote from fujifan :
anyone else got screwed by tesla for the 'delay' in delivery and now clawing back the 7500 discount? not sure why its fair for customers who paid and therefore 'made their sales numbers' to be screwed out of the discount when tesla can't get their operations together.... waiting for someone to start a class action lawsuit...
according to their terms that you agree with.
You can't be a part of a class action lawsuit
Jan 03, 2023 05:36 PM
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stanleychanJan 03, 2023 05:36 PM
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Quote from fujifan :
Thanks. And yes. I was fully ready to take delivery and in fact Tesla told me numerous times that my car was en route for 31st delivery until they went awol that afternoon so the contract was all done but for Tesla's inability to perform their end of the contract. God forbid a class action lawsuit discovers that internally Tesla met a certain number they wanted to hit (albeit lower than their previously targeted number) and decided the $7500 per car was worth more internally.

And I'm against all this standing up for big corporations especially within the slickdeals community. Why assume that it's always the consumer's fault? My default is almost always to point the arrow at shady big corporations.

Finally, tax credit has nothing to do with Tesla's bottom line. Whether or not me as a consumer can get a tax credit is between me and the federal government. My contract was never "contingent" upon tax credits.

I got the model y today, and I believe I suffered damages in the amount of $7500 as result of Tesla's unfair business practice. I don't have the resources to start a class action lawsuit but will join if one is being filed.
Many of us are probably frustrated/pissed off with the delivery process, however, most of us probably ended up taking delivery before 1/1/2023. Instead of relying on someone to start a class action lawsuit, or a lawsuit at all, perhaps having discussion with Tesla dealership or contacting consumer support groups for a resolution to show good faith in remediating the problem. $7500 is definitely a lot of money where I would consider all of my options. Personally, I also would not take delivery/accepted the car until the $7500 issue is resolved.
Jan 03, 2023 06:12 PM
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fujifanJan 03, 2023 06:12 PM
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Quote from malaysiafang :
You didn't suffer cause you didn't click "accept delivery" button .
So nothifn is guaranteed until they locate your car . I'm sorry
Ok mr big business apologist. The accept delivery option was not available to me (maybe because the car wasn't in front of me). Which are two issues on Tesla's end: one is that their app is no good, and two is that their logistics op is no good. How is that my fault?

And driving 8 hours in rain to pick up car… how is that the responsibility of the consumer when the company representative made statements repeatedly on 12/31 that the car is on the way and will get to my door?

I'm now seeing that there may indeed be lawsuits based on this bs. Let's see how this turns out in court.

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Jan 03, 2023 06:15 PM
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fujifanJan 03, 2023 06:15 PM
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Quote from shyboy :
according to their terms that you agree with.
You can't be a part of a class action lawsuit
See the whole point about a unfair business practice suit is to point out that these shrink wrap contracts are no good.

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