Model: Asus ROG Rapture GT-AXE11000 WiFi 6E Tri-Band 10 Gigabit Wireless Gaming Router
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01-08-2023 at 05:28 AM.
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How is it useless if you have devices that connect to the 6ghz channel?
Because the power output on 6ghz band inevitably keeps decreasing on newer released products.
This is actually one of the few 6ghz band routers ( IE:first to market design) with a 700mW output, though newer released products are being limited to a 400-500mW area. I'd assume for EMI purposes.
It could possibly receive a class 2 change later on per FCC as ASUS as done with other products.
Aside from that, there are only a few clients that can take advantage of "6ghz" as of right now. Yes, you may have a phone or PC with a 6E client, but I would argue against a phone needing 800+ mbps throughput.
So the question is.. Do you really need a desktop/laptop PC with intel AX2XX/4XX card pushing max ISP throughput? Might be more effective to wire a house at that point.
Edit:
I'm not saying 6E doesn't have a use case either, but it's generally being regulated to wireless backhaul purposes for mesh systems.. (which makes sense since you're not overlapping neighbors in regards to interference via 4x4 MIMO connection.. max transmission rate of 4800/2400 depending on bonding).
Same case for UNII-4 high 5ghz spectrum.. which is basically 6ghz on its own right.. (5.8ghz area), albeit FCC allowed insanely high power output for some reason @ 2-4W which makes no sense to me.. Traditional limits end at 1W for most of the 5ghz spectrum.
6ghz spectrum will become effective once WIFI7 oriented clients that can stream multiband become released, but hell.. WIFI6 5ghz/2.4ghz clients on their own are still scarce, especially in IoT sector.
This product on its own is sorta DOA, at least until there's a multi band client like AX4XX that can use all 3 streams at once.. AX4XX can do two IIRC.
WIFI7 on its own isn't even that revolutionary from previous technologies when you break things down, but hardware improvements do help over time.
Things like 4K QAM and 16x16 MIMO kinda twist what's already available via alt technologies in market. IE: AX4XX cards being able to use two bands at once.
tl;dr: just buy a good well received 4x4 5ghz oriented router unless there is niche justifiable reasoning such as backhaul purpose.
You'll be more happy upgrading to newer technologies.. This platform dates back to 2018.. Gen 1 BCM AX... Being phased out in the next year or two for gen/wave 2 designs. Like AX88U PRO, AX86U PRO, GT-AX6000, AXE16000 etc.
2x2 clients connecting to a single 6ghz band just seems so pointless to me, but I digress.
Because the power output on 6ghz band inevitably keeps decreasing on newer released products.
This is actually one of the few 6ghz band routers ( IE:first to market design) with a 700mW output, though newer released products are being limited to a 400-500mW area. I'd assume for EMI purposes.
It could possibly receive a class 2 change later on per FCC as ASUS as done with other products.
Aside from that, there are only a few clients that can take advantage of "6ghz" as of right now. Yes, you may have a phone or PC with a 6E client, but I would argue against a phone needing 800+ mbps throughput.
So the question is.. Do you really need a desktop/laptop PC with intel AX2XX/4XX card pushing max ISP throughput? Might be more effective to wire a house at that point.
Edit:
I'm not saying 6E doesn't have a use case either, but it's generally being regulated to wireless backhaul purposes for mesh systems.. (which makes sense since you're not overlapping neighbors in regards to interference via 4x4 MIMO connection.. max transmission rate of 4800/2400 depending on bonding).
Same case for UNII-4 high 5ghz spectrum.. which is basically 6ghz on its own right.. (5.8ghz area), albeit FCC allowed insanely high power output for some reason @ 2-4W which makes no sense to me.. Traditional limits end at 1W for most of the 5ghz spectrum.
6ghz spectrum will become effective once WIFI7 oriented clients that can stream multiband become released, but hell.. WIFI6 5ghz/2.4ghz clients on their own are still scarce, especially in IoT sector.
This product on its own is sorta DOA, at least until there's a multi band client like AX4XX that can use all 3 streams at once.. AX4XX can do two IIRC.
WIFI7 on its own isn't even that revolutionary from previous technologies when you break things down, but hardware improvements do help over time.
Things like 4K QAM and 16x16 MIMO kinda twist what's already available via alt technologies in market. IE: AX4XX cards being able to use two bands at once.
tl;dr: just buy a good well received 4x4 5ghz oriented router unless there is niche justifiable reasoning such as backhaul purpose.
You'll be more happy upgrading to newer technologies.. This platform dates back to 2018.. Gen 1 BCM AX... Being phased out in the next year or two for gen/wave 2 designs. Like AX88U PRO, AX86U PRO, GT-AX6000, AXE16000 etc.
2x2 clients connecting to a single 6ghz band just seems so pointless to me, but I digress.
What 4x4 5ghz router would you recommend to someone that plays online games (wirelessly) while his wife watches Netflix? That same guy has 600 mbps...
What 4x4 5ghz router would you recommend to someone that plays online games (wirelessly) while his wife watches Netflix? That same guy has 600 mbps...
Any Asus design is fairly good. I don't really have experience with alt brands.. aside from good notable models that are kinda niche from last gen ACW2.
Cheapest option would ben an AX86S with 15% trade in coupon (any old router, even 20 years old) via best buy.
$153 + tax.
Will be competitive with top end 4x4 ASUS routers per environment. Downside? only comes with 1G LAN. Not a very future proof option long term.
I have this setup alongside an AXE 16000 using the 6GHz backhaul via Ai Mesh. This setup is way better than the junk ORBI I was using before, coverage area is amazing across upstairs and downstairs. At this price it's a steal compared to the launch price I bought it at. Definitely recommend it, plus Ai Mesh allows you to use this in the future if you upgrade to newer Asus models.
I have this setup alongside an AXE 16000 using the 6GHz backhaul via Ai Mesh. This setup is way better than the junk ORBI I was using before, coverage area is amazing across upstairs and downstairs. At this price it's a steal compared to the launch price I bought it at. Definitely recommend it, plus Ai Mesh allows you to use this in the future if you upgrade to newer Asus models.
Yeah 6ghz wireless backhaul is valid due to 4x4 MIMO radio regardless of power output.
2x2 client connecting to 6ghz? fairly silly and redundant unless you absolutely need a zero interference connection to a fixed PC..
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Only valid if you combined two of these for wireless 6ghz backhaul.
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I have an older version of it and the 8 ports saves me from needing a switch at my wiring panel.
Only valid if you combined two of these for wireless 6ghz backhaul.
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This is actually one of the few 6ghz band routers ( IE: first to market design) with a 700mW output, though newer released products are being limited to a 400-500mW area. I'd assume for EMI purposes.
It could possibly receive a class 2 change later on per FCC as ASUS as done with other products.
Aside from that, there are only a few clients that can take advantage of "6ghz" as of right now. Yes, you may have a phone or PC with a 6E client, but I would argue against a phone needing 800+ mbps throughput.
So the question is.. Do you really need a desktop/laptop PC with intel AX2XX/4XX card pushing max ISP throughput? Might be more effective to wire a house at that point.
Edit:
I'm not saying 6E doesn't have a use case either, but it's generally being regulated to wireless backhaul purposes for mesh systems.. (which makes sense since you're not overlapping neighbors in regards to interference via 4x4 MIMO connection.. max transmission rate of 4800/2400 depending on bonding).
Same case for UNII-4 high 5ghz spectrum.. which is basically 6ghz on its own right.. (5.8ghz area), albeit FCC allowed insanely high power output for some reason @ 2-4W which makes no sense to me.. Traditional limits end at 1W for most of the 5ghz spectrum.
6ghz spectrum will become effective once WIFI7 oriented clients that can stream multiband become released, but hell.. WIFI6 5ghz/2.4ghz clients on their own are still scarce, especially in IoT sector.
This product on its own is sorta DOA, at least until there's a multi band client like AX4XX that can use all 3 streams at once.. AX4XX can do two IIRC.
WIFI7 on its own isn't even that revolutionary from previous technologies when you break things down, but hardware improvements do help over time.
Things like 4K QAM and 16x16 MIMO kinda twist what's already available via alt technologies in market. IE: AX4XX cards being able to use two bands at once.
tl;dr: just buy a good well received 4x4 5ghz oriented router unless there is niche justifiable reasoning such as backhaul purpose.
You'll be more happy upgrading to newer technologies.. This platform dates back to 2018.. Gen 1 BCM AX... Being phased out in the next year or two for gen/wave 2 designs. Like AX88U PRO, AX86U PRO, GT-AX6000, AXE16000 etc.
2x2 clients connecting to a single 6ghz band just seems so pointless to me, but I digress.
This is actually one of the few 6ghz band routers ( IE: first to market design) with a 700mW output, though newer released products are being limited to a 400-500mW area. I'd assume for EMI purposes.
It could possibly receive a class 2 change later on per FCC as ASUS as done with other products.
Aside from that, there are only a few clients that can take advantage of "6ghz" as of right now. Yes, you may have a phone or PC with a 6E client, but I would argue against a phone needing 800+ mbps throughput.
So the question is.. Do you really need a desktop/laptop PC with intel AX2XX/4XX card pushing max ISP throughput? Might be more effective to wire a house at that point.
Edit:
I'm not saying 6E doesn't have a use case either, but it's generally being regulated to wireless backhaul purposes for mesh systems.. (which makes sense since you're not overlapping neighbors in regards to interference via 4x4 MIMO connection.. max transmission rate of 4800/2400 depending on bonding).
Same case for UNII-4 high 5ghz spectrum.. which is basically 6ghz on its own right.. (5.8ghz area), albeit FCC allowed insanely high power output for some reason @ 2-4W which makes no sense to me.. Traditional limits end at 1W for most of the 5ghz spectrum.
6ghz spectrum will become effective once WIFI7 oriented clients that can stream multiband become released, but hell.. WIFI6 5ghz/2.4ghz clients on their own are still scarce, especially in IoT sector.
This product on its own is sorta DOA, at least until there's a multi band client like AX4XX that can use all 3 streams at once.. AX4XX can do two IIRC.
WIFI7 on its own isn't even that revolutionary from previous technologies when you break things down, but hardware improvements do help over time.
Things like 4K QAM and 16x16 MIMO kinda twist what's already available via alt technologies in market. IE: AX4XX cards being able to use two bands at once.
tl;dr: just buy a good well received 4x4 5ghz oriented router unless there is niche justifiable reasoning such as backhaul purpose.
You'll be more happy upgrading to newer technologies.. This platform dates back to 2018.. Gen 1 BCM AX... Being phased out in the next year or two for gen/wave 2 designs. Like AX88U PRO, AX86U PRO, GT-AX6000, AXE16000 etc.
2x2 clients connecting to a single 6ghz band just seems so pointless to me, but I digress.
What 4x4 5ghz router would you recommend to someone that plays online games (wirelessly) while his wife watches Netflix? That same guy has 600 mbps...
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Cheapest option would ben an AX86S with 15% trade in coupon (any old router, even 20 years old) via best buy.
$153 + tax.
Will be competitive with top end 4x4 ASUS routers per environment. Downside? only comes with 1G LAN. Not a very future proof option long term.
2x2 client connecting to 6ghz? fairly silly and redundant unless you absolutely need a zero interference connection to a fixed PC..
https://rog.asus.com/networking/r...pro-model/
https://rog.asus.com/networking/r...000-model/
Outside of that, you likely have to wait for WIFI7 Hardware for alt multiport 2.5G
there's also an AX88U PRO that hit FCC in December and should be available in the next few months.