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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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PocketsThickJan 13, 2023 05:03 AM
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Quote from megastar :
What the heck.. is this a stock price or drop this much..
It's because of the economic pain coming in 2023. Car sales are going to be down this year, the layoffs are already starting to happen. Tesla is trying to push as many sales as they can before the pain starts to be felt, and they aren't able to sell units as easily.
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Tesla was always on my radar. Not anymore, thanks Qelon for taking off your mask and showing your true (ugly) self.
It's funny to think people like this were "environmentalist" and all about the cause until their political feathers get ruffled. But good for you, stand your ground and don't buy an EV or a mega corp running dirty ICE engines. Back to horses... Wait the animal rights...

Note: CEO to Ford gm and Walmart donated to the bad elephant people...I guess you won't be buying EV from them or shopping at big blue either.
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The $7500 has income caps:

Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
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UniqueSeagull3844Jan 13, 2023 05:06 AM
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Quote from henryfw :
Can you return it still?
Bro you can't return cars
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SiegfriedCJan 13, 2023 05:08 AM
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it was even better before 7500 federal and 2500 tax, but be aware of that income cap.
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hl126Jan 13, 2023 05:08 AM
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Quote from dvrrajesh :
My daughter is doing residency and she gets around 65k/year. I know i am not eligible. As of now she gets taxes withhold and end of year I am sure she may not owe any taxes. How do I get her to withhold taxes so that she owes 7.5k? Any help. I just placed an order for model Y. Do I register in her name ?

Also I found new one locally 100 miles away with the specs I wanted. So I ordered that one instead of doing custom order.
Nothing to do with withholding, it's about total taxes owed from taxable income.
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Quote from dvrrajesh :
My daughter is doing residency and she gets around 65k/year. I know i am not eligible. As of now she gets taxes withhold and end of year I am sure she may not owe any taxes. How do I get her to withhold taxes so that she owes 7.5k? Any help. I just placed an order for model Y. Do I register in her name ?

Also I found new one locally 100 miles away with the specs I wanted. So I ordered that one instead of doing custom order.
Your daughter still pays taxes on $65k, which is something like $7k for the federal brackets... this is regardless of what she "owes" or gets as a refund when she files, which is where you fix your estimated payments throughout the year in order to pay your actual amount owed.

Tax withholding is a good question, I'm not sure if she could put in a bunch of allowances or something on a W4 so that less is withheld from her paycheck, thereby meaning she "gets" some of that $7500 before she files in 2024.
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Quote from UniqueSeagull3844 :
Bro you can't return cars
For a while Tesla had a 7 day return period for new cars but they got rid of it a few years ago
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desidude2000Jan 13, 2023 05:11 AM
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Bro you can't return cars
What if you got them at Costco ? 😂
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Quote from wighty :
Your daughter still pays taxes on $65k, which is something like $7k for the federal brackets... this is regardless of what she "owes" or gets as a refund when she files, which is where you fix your estimated payments throughout the year in order to pay your actual amount owed.

Tax withholding is a good question, I'm not sure if she could put in a bunch of allowances or something on a W4 so that less is withheld from her paycheck, thereby meaning she "gets" some of that $7500 before she files in 2024.
Hmm. Looks like I wouldn't get all of 7.5k if I go this route. Another way would be transfer stock from my account ( As a father ) as gift and she sells the stock this year and there would be capital gains.
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Quote from TofuVic :
If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022, I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
respect for putting this out here. I bought mine 2 years ago so not in the same boat, but still taking some hit
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This is going to have a big impact on used Tesla values too
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Quote from ChronoTriggered :
So this means:
1. $7500 cash back after we file our federal taxes (assuming you don't owe any taxes)?
Or
2. $7500 tax write off (similar to donating $7500 to charity)?
Donating to charity is a write off. That reduces your taxable income. A tax credit is a dollar for dollar credit against your tax bill. If you owed $10,000 you'd now owe $2,500. If you owed $500 you'd be getting a rebate of $7,000.
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