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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 07:30 AM
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Dealhunter30Jan 13, 2023 07:30 AM
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Quote from dkch1968 :
If i read this correctly, the 7 seaters can't exceed $80K vs 5 seaters are can't exceed $55K. Pls correct me if I'm mistaken.

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Yes.. correct
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RavenSEALJan 13, 2023 07:30 AM
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Is this poor build quality included, or is that extra with the $15,000 full self crashing package?
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Poker_KhianaJan 13, 2023 07:30 AM
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Quote from nwee :
I live in California and was assigned an Texas vin delivered to my house. You don't need to fly there, rep should be able to help pick your vin. That said, I don't think my build was that great and am rectifying a few things. Fremont vs austin likely not a big diff
Fremont might have Matrix headlights. My Austin build did not but perhaps paint quality better due to CA EPA regulations.
Jan 13, 2023 07:31 AM
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PJS1000Jan 13, 2023 07:31 AM
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Do they come with turn signals since the ones on the road now don't have them?
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sowhatwegetdrunkJan 13, 2023 07:31 AM
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Quote from crazycreations :
anybody thinking of asking the boss for some ot hours because tax on ot is ridiculous.
Huh? What are you talking about? Taxes are based on total income and nothing special for your OT income alone
Jan 13, 2023 07:32 AM
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ilikeallofuJan 13, 2023 07:32 AM
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Quote from NathanR3270 :
Technically you could
Can u help me understand in simple terms? If at the end of the tax year, my federal tax due is $7,500, i'll get EV tax credit? However, if my federal tax due is negative and i get return from federal, then I won't be able to get this EV tax credit? Let's assume my salary is $150k and i overpay my taxes in each paycheck. Is my assumption correct?
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Jan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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MrDeaalsJan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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I'm waiting out . I expect the price to drop
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kiddmit3Jan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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Quote from ilikeallofu :
Can u help me understand in simple terms? If at the end of the tax year, my federal tax due is $7,500, i'll get EV tax credit? However, if my federal tax due is negative and i get return from federal, then I won't be able to get this EV tax credit? Let's assume my salary is $150k and i overpay my taxes in each paycheck. Is my assumption correct?
No, just look at your tax liability to see how much taxes you owe. Your tax return is how much you withheld minus your liability so you getting a return or owing more has no effect on how much you'd get from federal ev tax credit.
Last edited by kiddmit3 January 13, 2023 at 12:36 AM.
Jan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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dearpigJan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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Quote from langdatayagi :
These things are so hard to predict !! I had 10k equity last april on my x3 and decided to wait for couple of months, and when it was time to sell, the used car market drop and I had only 1k equity. Just enjoy your car and get many other deals here to save money
Thanks, I completely agree. I read Tofu's other post and soothe down. I am happy with the car, it is a good car. That is more important. Plus, I lost far more than $13k on Tesla stock LOL and I made peace with myself.
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Hawk2007Jan 13, 2023 07:33 AM
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Quote from crazycreations :
anybody thinking of asking the boss for some ot hours because tax on ot is ridiculous.
Tax on OT is subject to a special tax code and FIT rate?
Jan 13, 2023 07:34 AM
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DllemmJan 13, 2023 07:34 AM
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Quote from GreyField2811 :
Used Tesla price drops like shit now.
Used prices were artificially high even before pandemic, since Tesla was also reselling used vehicles. And then during the chip shortage, many 2020-2022 Tesla buyers immediately flipped them.
The battery degradation curve is turning out to be pretty good, so that's a positive sign. It will be interesting to watch depreciation over the next few years.
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MrDeaalsJan 13, 2023 07:35 AM
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Quote from ilikeallofu :
Can u help me understand in simple terms? If at the end of the tax year, my federal tax due is $7,500, i'll get EV tax credit? However, if my federal tax due is negative and i get return from federal, then I won't be able to get this EV tax credit? Let's assume my salary is $150k and i overpay my taxes in each paycheck. Is my assumption correct?
Simple gif what you owe > $7500 : you get the complete 7500 credit
If what you owe < $7500 ; you dont get any money back from IRS
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sowhatwegetdrunkJan 13, 2023 07:35 AM
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Quote from ilikeallofu :
Can u help me understand in simple terms? If at the end of the tax year, my federal tax due is $7,500, i'll get EV tax credit? However, if my federal tax due is negative and i get return from federal, then I won't be able to get this EV tax credit? Let's assume my salary is $150k and i overpay my taxes in each paycheck. Is my assumption correct?
You will still get the 7.5K I believe. People are talking about adjusting withholding to just not wait for the 2023 tax filing refund
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Abhi88Jan 13, 2023 07:37 AM
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Quote from Kensic :
don think a 50k salary filing single pays at least 7.5k in federal tax.

i think you need to be in the 70k range to be sure for filing single.
Right $60k comes to that 7k range, but entire income goes on tesla model y for that year.

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